Intel Arc Alchemist DG2 GPU Memory Configurations Leak

[AleksandarK]

Intel's upcoming Arc Alchemist lineup of discrete graphics cards generates a lot of attention from consumers. Leaks of these cards' performance and detailed specifications appear more and more as we enter the countdown to the launch day, which is sometime in Q1 of this year. Today, we managed to see a slide from @9950pro on Twitter that shows the laptop memory configuration of Intel's DG2 GPU. As the picture suggests, we can see that the top-end SKU1 with 512 EUs supports a 16 GB capacity of GDDR6 memory that runs at 16 Gbps speeds. The memory runs on a 256-bit bus and generates 512 GB/s bandwidth while having eight VRAM modules present.

When it comes to SKU2, which is a variant with 384 EUs, this configuration supports six VRAM modules on a 192-bit bus, running at 16 Gbps speeds. They generate a total capacity of 12 GBs and a bandwidth of 384 GB/s. We have SKU3 DG2 GPU going down the stack, featuring 256 EUs, four VRAM modules on a 128-bit bus, 8 GB capacity, and a 256 GB/s bandwidth. And last but not least, the smallest DG2 variants come in the form of SKU4 and SKU5, feating 128 EUs and 96 EUs, respectively. Intel envisions these lower-end SKUs with two VRAM modules on a 64-bit bus, and this time slower GDDR6 memory running at 14 Gbps. They are paired with 4 GB of total capacity, and the total bandwidth comes down to 112 GB/s.


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[ixi]

Lol'd another intel leak for past 4 years

 

[Wirko]

we enter the countdown to the launch day, which is sometime in Q1 of this year

Out of evil curiosity, how do we enter countdown to a date that's so approximate, estimated, rough, imprecise, inexact, coarse-grained, indefinite, broad, loose, general, vague, hazy, fuzzy, woolly and ballpark?

 

[ixi]

Out of evil curiosity, how do we enter countdown to a date that's so approximate, estimated, rough, imprecise, inexact, coarse-grained, indefinite, broad, loose, general, vague, hazy, fuzzy, woolly and ballpark?

By waiting more leaks. Intel is never late, they come when they want. Just like wizzards.

 

[Mussels]

Out of evil curiosity, how do we enter countdown to a date that's so approximate, estimated, rough, imprecise, inexact, coarse-grained, indefinite, broad, loose, general, vague, hazy, fuzzy, woolly and ballpark?

Dont worry, at least they didnt say something vague like "this spring"
Ah excellent, which hemisphere?

Or when they call it fall, where the release date is whenever Linus or Jayz2cents drops their review sample

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I wonder how many leak accounts on twitter intel has by now, seems like a new one for every other press release.

 

[Crackong]

Another working day another intel "Leak"

 

[Daven]

Intel removed references of Q1 launch from website.

Intel website no longer mentions Q1 2022 as Arc release date - VideoCardz.com

Intel quietly removes ‘Q1’ release date from ARC website Intel’s CES 2022 news conference was full of details on 12th Gen Core Alder Lake CPUs. On the other hand, graphics enthusiasts eagerly awaiting updates on Arc GPU were left with ambiguous messages such as ‘it is shipping to OEMs’, ‘it is...

videocardz.com

Most likely we will just see laptop Arc chips and maybe a few desktop cards released in China and obscure OEMs this year.

 

[ixi]

Intel removed references of Q1 launch from website.

Intel website no longer mentions Q1 2022 as Arc release date - VideoCardz.com

Intel quietly removes ‘Q1’ release date from ARC website Intel’s CES 2022 news conference was full of details on 12th Gen Core Alder Lake CPUs. On the other hand, graphics enthusiasts eagerly awaiting updates on Arc GPU were left with ambiguous messages such as ‘it is shipping to OEMs’, ‘it is...

videocardz.com

Most likely we will just see laptop Arc chips and maybe a few desktop cards released in China and obscure OEMs this year.

Somehow I'm not surprised, haha. Well, intel dGPU see you in 2023. When AMD and Nvidia with broom will shuuush intel away in garbage.

 

[AusWolf]

512 Gbps... not bad. Now we'll only have to see if performance is really on par with similar offerings from nvidia and AMD. And if pricing is right. And if raytracing and DLSS/FSR alternatives are implemented well. And if driver support is okay. I wish Intel to succeed, but there's a lot of room for failure. We'll see.

 

[Vayra86]

I wonder how many leak accounts on twitter intel has by now, seems like a new one for every other press release.

Dude, stop lying, you know these guys are all going to get fired or sued for releasing something that's under NDA. "Oh! Woopsie!"

@Fouquin see the point now?

512 Gbps... not bad. Now we'll only have to see if performance is really on par with similar offerings from nvidia and AMD. And if pricing is right. And if raytracing and DLSS/FSR alternatives are implemented well. And if driver support is okay. I wish Intel to succeed, but there's a lot of room for failure. We'll see.

Not bad? That's 100 Gbps short of a 3070ti and about equal to a 3070.
So the bestest, most optimistic outlook if Intel has near-perfect drivers is that their most expensive chip with 16GB (!) will end up somewhere along 3070 but likely a good 10% under it because its just not quite as refined.

I hope Intel is not looking for any more than 600 bucks for that, because if they do, and they also postpone beyond Q1 2022, its a DOA and you can easily wait until 2023 for something better. And by then, 500Gbps is lower midrange territory. So... Intel gonna scale up to 384 ~ 512 bit then? Hey Raja... did you think of using HBM? Or still didn't make up your mind?

I'm not even half kidding. DG2 looks like old news already, its like Raja still has no grasp of time to market and pre empting that delay.

I mean.. this is just in:

 

[AusWolf]

Not bad? That's 100 Gbps short of a 3070ti and about equal to a 3070.
So the bestest, most optimistic outlook if Intel has near-perfect drivers is that their most expensive chip with 16GB (!) will end up somewhere along 3070 but likely a good 10% under it because its just not quite as refined.

I hope Intel is not looking for any more than 600 bucks for that, because if they do, and they also postpone beyond Q1 2022, its a DOA and you can easily wait until 2023 for something better. And by then, 500Gbps is lower midrange territory. So... Intel gonna scale up to 384 ~ 512 bit then? Hey Raja... did you think of using HBM? Or still didn't make up your mind?

I'm not even half kidding. DG2 looks like old news already, its like Raja still has no grasp of time to market and pre empting that delay.

Exactly, 3070 level memory bandwidth sounds pretty good to me.

Honestly, I want the DG2 to be good. I want one not because I need one, but because my curiosity is killing me. Also, I've already got Xe in my CPU, how good would an all-Intel system look with an Xe dGPU?

 

[Vayra86]

Exactly, 3070 level memory bandwidth sounds pretty good to me.

Honestly, I want the DG2 to be good. I want one not because I need one, but because my curiosity is killing me. Also, I've got Xe in my CPU, how good would an all-Intel system look with an Xe dGPU?

It would look the exact same, except perform a lot less, than any similar priced system without Intel in it

I want DG2 to be good too, but all I see here is Vega on repeat. Too little, too late, and availability + price is going to be a thing.
Remember, Vega was initially supposed to command an inflated price because 'it was actually a pro GPU' and 'OMG it has HBM'.
Now look at how DG is Intel's first, very special GPU already. Its being marketed on a featureset, not on real perf/price metrics ever since the first announcement. Also, consider the fact that this is Intel's first venture of scaling an architecture to high performance gaming GPU, not very different from Vega being the odd one out in terms of support due to different memory. We're now looking at the first GDDR6 based GPU here. We know the basis of this design is not gaming but rather enterprise.

I smell smoke, and usually that means fire.

 

[AusWolf]

It would look the exact same, except perform a lot less, than any similar priced system without Intel in it

We'll see. I currently have a 2070 that I'm happy with. If Intel doesn't F up the price, features and driver support, I might get a DG2 out of sheer curiosity.

I want DG2 to be good too, but all I see here is Vega on repeat. Too little, too late, and availability + price is going to be a thing.
Remember, Vega was initially supposed to command an inflated price because 'it was actually a pro GPU' and 'OMG it has HBM'.
Now look at how DG is Intel's first, very special GPU already. Its being marketed on a featureset, not on real perf/price metrics ever since the first announcement.

I smell smoke, and usually that means fire.

I have the same feeling, but I want to stay optimistic. I don't want to bury the child before it's born.

 

[Vayra86]

I don't want to bury the child before it's born.

You know there are limits to a healthy period of pregnancy right

 

[AusWolf]

You know there are limits to a healthy period of pregnancy right

Fair enough. One thing is true: Whether the final product is good or bad - with current specs, Intel will have to release it within the next 6 months or so to be competitive.

 

[Caring1]

You know there are limits to a healthy period of pregnancy right

For an Elephant like Intel, 2 years sounds about right.

 

[Solaris17]

Fair enough. One thing is true: Whether the final product is good or bad - with current specs, Intel will have to release it within the next 6 months or so to be competitive.

You know, and forewarning I'm not even sure I believe it. More just hopeful but... I don't think it even needs to be competitive. I think if they manage to pump enough out performance will only matter to people like us. The ability to even BUY a GPU will probably be enough to drive sales of them.

I plan on buying one anyway, same as someone else in the thread not even to replace what I have. I just need to KNOW.

 

[Ripcord]

I hear this will be released when they can include a free copy of Star Citizen

 

[Tomorrow]

They better not gimp the 96 EU and 128 EU versions that have 4GB of VRAM and a 64bit wide bus with just x4 links. That would be worse than 6500XT. Atleast AMD has Infinity Cache and 18Gbps VRAM. Intel does not have extra on-die cache and uses bottom of the barrel 14Gbps VRAM on those cards.

 

[Metroid]

This looks like amd 6800 6700 6600 series, 6800 256, 6700 192 and 6600 128, interesting. It will not be bad if price is right, the timing is not good but better now than later.

 

[Bomby569]

Intel by now has a "leak department" and a CLO, Chief Leaker Officer.

 

[Lucas_]

but you can see that the guy who used to work in AMD touch in this .
Sorry forgot his name and too lazy to duckduck it.

 

[jesdals]

8gb vram - just no. Let us have decent performance on dedicated gpus

 

[mechtech]

Is this for Larrabee??