NamesDontMatter said:
Also I would love to see a civic with 400 HP, My guess is you don't know much about cars either. It would probably be more affordable getting a low end corvette then trying to get a Civic to 400 HP, bad comparison.
Probably right, because you'd have to change SO much of the stock CIVIC (e.g.-> motor mounts, frame, suspension, tranny, etc./et all really) to make it even POSSIBLE to do that, it wouldn't be worth it!
(Assuming you use things like larger engine blocks, & not TONS of artificially aspirated things like turbos/superchargers/NOS)
Plus, that's assuming you could even keep its wheels down, w/out wheelhop (yes, the weight of the engine on front-wheel drive helps, but how much with hp in that range?)...
QUESTION - Are there trannies (transaxles) for smallish, front-wheel drive cars like that which can take what Muncie M22 rockcrushers can in the rear-wheel drive world?
E.G.-> I've seen & driven 2 cars in 1 day a few years back, that both claimed in excess of 350hp out each!
1 was a smaller foreign vehicle (not sure of make, was a stock type car modded though & pretty sure it was a HONDA of somekind) & the other was a fully restored Pontiac GTO "judge" from 1970...
Each was a HUGE diff. in feel, bigtime... why?
IMO, TORQUE!
That foreign job with all of its turbos & NOS setup, vs. that 1970 GTO 455cid was no comparison imo.
The GTO was just BUSTING out & holding the road with a LOT more acceleration (straight-ahead) imo, than the foreign job did (not that it was bad, it wasn't & was quite impressive). AND, yes, the GTO had way, WAY over 350hp... it was a 455/455.
Then again, even with less "hp" in the foreign car? The foreign job only weighed in @ like 1/2 of the oldschool musclecar "GOAT" as well, this considerably "even things up" imo.
Mainly, I liked the GTO better, in the end when I think now about it!
(Mostly because the torque part was what the diff. was between them imo having driven both auto types in 1 day a few years ago).
The GTO just had more "POW" when you hit the accelerator imo (yes, it had ladder bars to help it hold the rear wheel drive down, positraction type), than the foreign car did, even with NOS & turbos on it.
AND, torque wins races (not horsepower).
You've got to be able to deliver & translate all that "oomph" to the wheels, & have them hold the ground to get a win... it's a battle in & of itself, & with a CIVIC?
I wouldn't want to try it. Would be a waste if all I was out to do was get a racer out of it.
APK
P.S.=> I'm with you in the end, because modding can ONLY take a certain rig SO FAR...
Then, at some point? IMO, you are "spinning your wheels" trying to turn a go-cart into a street rod, spending money you could spend on a next-gen rig to update/upgrade, that has a LOT more potential...
Hence, why I only "mod" slightly nowadays on my last 2-3 rigs, & ONLY when its cost effective on PC's I upgrade.
Give you all an example of one I think I went "wrong" on: I put a copper CPU cooler & fan onto a GeForce Ti4600 years ago, it ate up 4 slots in my PC - the return in overclockability? NEGLIGIBLE! And, the amount of time I spent fastening it down (with Silver Epoxy I had to buy too ontop of the copper CPU cooler + fan) & splicing wires for it?
NOT WORTH IT!
Thus, I buy once every 3-5 years & get HUGE "pop" in power increase, vs. trying to mod the hell out of, or overclock, an existing older gen rig...
I made that "mistake" over time, a few times, got cured of it. Overclocks & system/OS/Software/BIOS tunings help SOME, but newer hardware? There is NO substitute.
(Of course, there is the money you spend too... this is where "hotrodding" what you have, helps out!)... apk
