Intel Core i7-12700K and Core i9-12900K Pricing Leaks

[docnorth]

Yeah the leaks are also saying the 12900k when tweaked runs power up to 330w. Double the power just to gain 5-10%? Yeah no thanks. If someone has a 3090, they would need a minimum of a 1000w PSU and a 1200w to play it safe with that type of setup.

Ah you didn't read most of previous comments and threads about Alder Lake. I'll write again what I wrote 2-3 days ago, only as an example, you can find many similar comments from other members.
1) A stock i9-12900K achieved 827,7 and 11456,5 points (i.e. on CPU-Z), so this overclock didn't do much besides increasing voltage and consumption.
2)5200 MHz all core for what?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I believe Intel priced this in an attempt to saturate the market.

Intel cant pass up kickbacks from m$ by pushing w11.

 

[IceShroom]

What's sad is I still see 'analysts' in places like Forbes and Barron's saying Intel 10nm is a node like TSMC 10nm, which is complete and utter nonsense. Intel 7 aka 10nm is more than double the density TSMC 10nm was. So here we are, going to the lowest common denominator and appealing to the least knowledgeable thanks to the marketing guys.

Another Intel fan spreading misinformation that started by Intel's marketing guys.
If Intel is so dense, what is the real chip density of Intel's 10nm?? Haven't seen any transistor number from Intel since Broadwell.

 

[zlobby]

I love how people who have no idea how they will benefit (if at all) from the big.little arch, long for the latest and 'greatest' from intel. All while helping inflate the already crazy prices.

 

[mechtech]

Guessing it will be a 10-20% hike over last gen the biggest upside is ddr4 only most likely so memory will be cheap unless Alderlake requires high frequency low latency memory to shine.

It would be kinda funny though and not totally unsurprising if there are $300+ models with DDR5 support

The bigger issues and the same one Ryzen 5000 and Zen 3D face are terrible gpu pricing though.. unless all you want to do is run cpu benchmarks and watch youtube.

Yes, GPU pricing and availability is everyone's issue, it's the greatest hindrance to building a new PC. If the GPU market continues to stagnate, it would not surprise me if Intel and AMD start putting integrated graphics as standard in all their cpu chips. At least Intel is better for this, despite them typically being weaker, but something is better than nothing. It's hard to sell CPU's without graphics when there are no graphics cards to be had.

It's like having a new vehicle, but with no tires............not much point in buying a vehicle with no tires.................

 

[Vayra86]

A bit OT but true story on prices. Last Sept when gas prices were really low (like under $2/gal) I traded my truck in on a mfr cert used hybrid lincoln mkz with just under 25k miles @$19,200. At the time nobody wanted hybrids. Then in Jan/Feb I was moving, wifes minivan broke down and part wasn't available for 6 weeks and it was at 120k miles, so I traded it on on a grand caravan GT @45k miles cost 16,500. Now mind you, at that time I really thought I was being taken for a ride and wasting money but I didn't want two vehicles with 100K+ miles.


I looked this morning and the same model hybrid MKZ (13 months later and older) lowest price within 300 miles of me with under 30k miles is asking 28K. The same model minivan with 46k miles is $24,000. That is around +40% increased cost to buy the same vehicles and they would be +8 months and +13 months older.

On top of all that, I sold and bought a house for 268K earlier this year (new build). Same floorplan same house on smaller lot in same subdivision sells for 330K now. That is like +25%.

Even the 10850K I bought in Q1 at $299 is selling for like 10-30% more now.

So yeah, something is broken.

Definitely. House pricing over here (NL) is even more ridiculous. Average house price has gained nearly 50% in the last 16 months. I bought mine for 185k EUR in 2017, up to 200-220k early 2020. It would cost around 360-400k now.

Now the laptop space, that might get real interesting. It is 85% of the client market, and big.LITTLE seems like it is meant for mobile to me. It'll be interesting to see what they can do with it on laptops.

Agree - Alder Lake is built to soundly beat Ryzen mobile chips, Intel is just applying focus and their desktop chips are really not going to be the interesting thing to look at. Those are going to be TDP limited as they were.

 

[NuCore]

Not bad. I guess this will put some pressure on AMD's pricing?

$120 more for the successor to the i7-12700K. Don't you think this is a big raise? Let's take it as a joke

 

[FireFox]

No idea why people still have the hots for K models. There is little to no gain from an OC these days.

And a 65 Watt Non-K Model has the same gaming performance.

I guess you need a K model these days to belong to the cool club... i personally rather belong to the smart club.

It's called ENTHUSIASM

 

[seth1911]

Ok then not, i dont go with those prices for a damn cpu and gpu too.

My 7870K will last very long, i see.

 

[Vayra86]

Ok then not, i dont go with those prices for a damn cpu and gpu too.

My 7870K will last very long, i see.

Heck, you even already have a K-model, why bother with the new K's!

 

[NuCore]

Heck, you even already have a K-model, why bother with the new K's!

It's just AMD's APU and it needs OC just like the cactus needs water to keep it from sticking out too much from other CPUs, while Intel's non-K processors like the 11400 / 11400f offer +/- the same performance as the 11600K which costs a lot more when the power limitation has been removed.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Stupid pricing, doesn't matter what the performance is, how does that affect how much it costs to make the CPU? It's Intel's prior arrogance already back in full force, they have not been humbled by their total thrashing by AMD and now expect to go back to gouging. By the comments on here with have plenty of people with more money than sense. LOL that someone one would dump a 5800X for a a few more fps in a game at 1080p.

 

[Vayra86]

It's just AMD's APU and it needs OC just like the cactus needs water to keep it from sticking out too much from other CPUs, while Intel's non-K processors like the 11400 / 11400f offer +/- the same performance as the 11600K which costs a lot more when the power limitation has been removed.

It was a joke, bud.