Intel Core i9-7900x vs AMD Threadripper 1950x

[aQi]

For me its pointless to end up googling about it other than the specs on both chips. I think all of us know what these babies are. Comparing both i am getting both at the same price.
Yes the threadripper has more cores but i need some concrete consideration coming from rendering to gaming to daily driven tasks. In terms of durability and having a balance which of the two will be the best for coming years?

Moreover, both of them are priced at 350$ bare chip. If these prices are any good ?

The motherboard if that matters will be Asus Zenith Extreme or Gigabyte x299 Aorus Gaming 9.

Both chips are quad channel memory and rams will be used in the same manner utilising all channels. No plans for any serious overclocking of rams or cpu.

 

[WHDS]

Why not buy something newer? Both chips are 3 or 4 generations old at this point

 

[Toothless]

Why not buy something newer? Both chips are 3 or 4 generations old at this point

Price.

The 7900x can overclock if you're not worries about power and heat, and maybe get a good deal on a higher model.

 

[Caring1]

Based on the Motherboards I would pick the Asus set up.

 

[aQi]

Why not buy something newer? Both chips are 3 or 4 generations old at this point

Newer like?

Price.

The 7900x can overclock if you're not worries about power and heat, and maybe get a good deal on a higher model.

i get your point but pros and cons on both can eliminate one. I don’t wana get confused.

Based on the Motherboards I would pick the Asus set up.

Personally i use asus boards but i have no option on the intel side rather then gigabyte but this is more into processors at this stage.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Neither. If you're going X299 I'd google harder and search eBay, 7940Xs can often go for just over $340 nowadays.

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7980XEs are available on eBay cheap as well at a higher cost. I'd forget the threadripper personally and consider AM4 as an alternative instead perhaps or even TRX40? Do you need a quad channel platform or are you doing it for the sake of it?
Edit: Also, that board is terrible FYI - RGB everywhere and entirely lacks VRM cooling beyond a 10C pushed past stock, given what you said though it shouldn't matter much, but how much is it? Better to not overpay for something terrible if possible.

 

[thesmokingman]

Yea, I'm with the camp of why bother? A 3900x/3950x will kill both of those setups without breaking a sweat.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

The 1950X was kinda a stinker. 2950X wasn't bad. I'd think you'd do better with a 3900X or 5900X.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
If you want a 10 core chip get a 400.us 10900k at least it will do 5.0ghz easily and game nicely

79..x series is crap needs a delid to do anything
If you really want x299 and quad channel do 10900x at least it doesn't need a delid and can at least has half a hope to do 5.0ghz

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I'd think you'd do better with a 3900X or 5900X.

I second this.

Hi,
If you want a 10 core chip get a 400.us 10900k at least it will do 5.0ghz easily and game nicely

79..x series is crap needs a delid to do anything
If you really want x299 and quad channel do 10900x at least it doesn't need a delid and can at least has half a hope to do 5.0ghz

I don't particularly think his intention is overclocking, so mainstream is likely more suitable IMO, thing with the 10900X is you can often buy a 7940X used or similar for that kind of price and still get a reasonable bump out of it even with intels stock TIM along with having the additional cache and 4 extra cores - 5ghz on the 10900X is optimistic and not realistic at all for his cooling presumably as that is not AIO territory but custom loop territory.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah of course 79..x series is cheap they are garbage lol

 

[Solaris17]

Hi,
Yeah of course 79..x series is cheap they are garbage lol

Not really. The x299 platform is still competitive to todays systems beating some system configurations handedly. There also isn't enough difference between skylake-X and the other x299 architectures to warrant the core loss and price difference. They performed within single digit % of each other which makes any used 79XX CPU purchase a no brainer if you are thinking of jumping on late.

 

[ThrashZone]

Not really. The x299 platform is still competitive to todays systems beating some system configurations handedly. There also isn't enough difference between skylake-X and the other x299 architectures to warrant the core loss and price difference. They performed within single digit % of each other which makes any used 79XX CPU purchase a no brainer if you are thinking of jumping on late.

Hi,
What are you saying is single digit differnce ?
Seriously if y'all think 79..x series is good go right ahead and buy one I had one it was garbage until it was delided period.

 

[Solaris17]

Hi,
What are you saying is single digit differnce ?
Seriously if y'all think 79..x series is good go right ahead and buy one I had one it was garbage until it was delided period.

Literally everything about the architecture metrics.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Okay well just for the op get a soldered chip series I don't care which lol 9900x are dirt cheap too and no delid needed.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Then lose cache and cores? How is this any reason to buy the soldered chip? Literally better off buying AM4 instead at that point.

 

[aQi]

I have read all the response to the thread. I appreciate all of your interest into this limbo. The consumer platform i.e. ryzen and equalant Intel chips do lack lanes and restrict to dual channel architectures. I was looking something all in between. Due to COVID-19, Internationally i cannot import anything so technically i found only these two options for a monstrous setup. Lately i did find Threadripper 2920x with Asus x399 Strix and another which is i9-9980x with Asus Rampage Omega. Both with all accessories and in prime condition.

The price for all are relatively high as compared to ebay or other forums.

Yes, i am least interested in overclocking but I had couple of discussion with the sellers. They say Threadripper is not as good as Intel in gaming.

I am coming from an 8 core 5960x and may look forward for something better. The setup is already sold and looking forward to install a new setup into a case mod project HERE

 

[Deleted member 178884]

i9-9980x with Asus Rampage Omega.

Take this, IMO.

 

[oldwalltree]

If you plan on OCing go with the x299 setup! I am currently running a 10900x on a FTW-K x299 and i love it they overclock like champs on this chipset.

 

[aQi]

Take this, IMO.

Its offered for 1300$ as a combo

If you plan on OCing go with the x299 setup! I am currently running a 10900x on a FTW-K x299 and i love it they overclock like champs on this chipset.

Impressive. Whats your daily usage on this ?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I have 2 7980XE systems, encore in one and a dark in the other, it's a fantastic platform with a good board, personally I preferred my Omega to my X299 Dark then recently got a X299 Encore, it's very similar to the omega in most things and that board should do the job very well, $1300 is a very good price considered 9980XE.

 

[Dinnercore]

I also like the X299 platform. Your initial question was already answered, but I can add that I have used the 1950x for a while and this first gen Threadripper was ok at the time but it is not a good buy today. And it especially looses against Intel platforms. The first gen TR had issues with RAM clockspeeds and rather low IPC.

I have used both a 10980XE and a 10900X. From my experience the lower core count CPUs like the 10900X can not OC any better then the high core-count ones. While the 10900X is easier to cool, it needs a ton more voltage to clock high. My sample needed 1.4V+ for 5GHz, reaching 90°C with a good watercooling setup. My 10980XE on the other hand only needed 1.28V to reach 5GHz, but was sitting at the same temperature because it has a lot more cores and draws more power even on lower voltages.

Another thing I enjoyed more on X299 is memory OC and memory support in general. Threadrippers can be a bit more picky. Maybe not the newer generations, I have no experience with that.

 

[aQi]

I have 2 7980XE systems, encore in one and a dark in the other, it's a fantastic platform with a good board, personally I preferred my Omega to my X299 Dark then recently got a X299 Encore, it's very similar to the omega in most things and that board should do the job very well, $1300 is a very good price considered 9980XE.

Yes, i agree momentarily it may be of good price but i cant spend that much money. Two questions. One why did you dropped x299 dark and second is what is the difference between encore and omega ?

I also like the X299 platform. Your initial question was already answered, but I can add that I have used the 1950x for a while and this first gen Threadripper was ok at the time but it is not a good buy today. And it especially looses against Intel platforms. The first gen TR had issues with RAM clockspeeds and rather low IPC.

I have used both a 10980XE and a 10900X. From my experience the lower core count CPUs like the 10900X can not OC any better then the high core-count ones. While the 10900X is easier to cool, it needs a ton more voltage to clock high. My sample needed 1.4V+ for 5GHz, reaching 90°C with a good watercooling setup. My 10980XE on the other hand only needed 1.28V to reach 5GHz, but was sitting at the same temperature because it has a lot more cores and draws more power even on lower voltages.

Another thing I enjoyed more on X299 is memory OC and memory support in general. Threadrippers can be a bit more picky. Maybe not the newer generations, I have no experience with that.

I wont be overclocking the cpu as 5ghz wont be necessary yet for future i will consider your advise. Speaking of which the ram would be an issue if Threadripper setup is picky. DDR4 3600 or I might see if i can get a 4000 or 4200 instead. In those cases if they wont achieve those clocks its useless to buy them.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

One why did you dropped x299 dark and second is what is the difference between encore and omega ?

I've owned quite a few X299 boards, the X299 gaming pro carbon, X299 Omega and now X299 Dark/Encore. I managed to score a second 7980XE for reasonably cheap (£530 with 2yrs warranty) quite a while back so figured I might as well build a system around it to replace my z390i phantom secondary - I also had RAM overclocking issues on the dark with any of my 8GB Bdie, still not sure to this day if it's the board or RAM itself (though in the past few days I've had the encore it's doing a lot better on it) As for the difference between the omega and encore is the VRM on the encore is slightly better, AX200 instead of AC9260 (both are fine, btw), the OLED livedash display on the encore is larger. The BIOS has some features the Omega lacks from the last time I recall using it such as SP (Silicon prediction) though, it's nothing major at all. The omega is undoubately better than the dark though in terms of my experience, but the dark outdoes the omega slightly in the CPU overclocking side of things, however there will generally be no noticeable difference and either should be a fantastic board.

Moreover though, I would highly advise the omega + 9980XE, you're getting a good board and a good CPU whilst avoiding the LCC die chips or similar bad low core count CPUs, >14C is a minimum for X299 IMO, there's genuinely no point going lower.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
x299 dark was so late on release evga dumped most of them on their ebay store and eventually on their main website too at 150.us+-
Good board just evga was way too late on releasing it.