Intel Core i9-7900x vs AMD Threadripper 1950x

[Dinnercore]

I like the X299 dark, its the only X299 board I used so far and I had no problems with my Samsung B-Die kit. BUT I think when you do not want to OC much and don't want to bother setting all RAM timings manually etc.. the X299 dark is not the best option for you.
The dark is maybe marginally better than others in terms of OC and has a ton of X-OC (below 0°C extreme Overclocking) features that make it nice for overclockers. Besides that it is still an ok board, but you might pay for features that you don't even use, while other things like the onboard audio solution is probably not as good as the one on Asus boards.

The best thing I like about the X299 dark is its CPU VRM design and the heatsink. It stays comfortably cool even with an overclocked 18-core CPU in it. The whole thing is overkill tho, the Omega does a good job there too.

 

[ZoneDymo]

10850K and you will be fine on a balanced point.
That are a 3900X

 

[Dinnercore]

10850K and you will be fine on a balanced point.
That are a 3900X

OP is looking for Quad-Channel memory platforms with a lot of PCIe lanes.

Intel Core i9-7900x vs AMD Threadripper 1950x

For me its pointless to end up googling about it other than the specs on both chips. I think all of us know what these babies are. Comparing both i am getting both at the same price. Yes the threadripper has more cores but i need some concrete consideration coming from rendering to gaming to...

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[thesmokingman]

OP is looking for Quad-Channel memory platforms with a lot of PCIe lanes.

Yea, we just have to ignore the ridiculousness of quad channel for no point or gain.

 

[aQi]

I've owned quite a few X299 boards, the X299 gaming pro carbon, X299 Omega and now X299 Dark/Encore. I managed to score a second 7980XE for reasonably cheap (£530 with 2yrs warranty) quite a while back so figured I might as well build a system around it to replace my z390i phantom secondary - I also had RAM overclocking issues on the dark with any of my 8GB Bdie, still not sure to this day if it's the board or RAM itself (though in the past few days I've had the encore it's doing a lot better on it) As for the difference between the omega and encore is the VRM on the encore is slightly better, AX200 instead of AC9260 (both are fine, btw), the OLED livedash display on the encore is larger. The BIOS has some features the Omega lacks from the last time I recall using it such as SP (Silicon prediction) though, it's nothing major at all. The omega is undoubately better than the dark though in terms of my experience, but the dark outdoes the omega slightly in the CPU overclocking side of things, however there will generally be no noticeable difference and either should be a fantastic board.

Moreover though, I would highly advise the omega + 9980XE, you're getting a good board and a good CPU whilst avoiding the LCC die chips or similar bad low core count CPUs, >14C is a minimum for X299 IMO, there's genuinely no point going lower.

I appreciate your enthusiasm towards Intel HEDT plateform. The encore sounds fantastic though i am out of options at this point. The omega is sold off by the seller. However, I found another setup of the same price yet its the simple rampage vi extreme with 7980x. The Amd Threadripper package is also pending to another customer. Each day there is a new cloud heading in new direction. People who are eager on gaming brought ryzen and i9 11th gen.
That puts me in a dilemma why people are so serious after ryzen and i9 ? The HEDT can be the best in all dimensions then why go for something like mainstream? They seak out x299 or x399 if its not available they simply move to what is available.

Since you have alot of experience with rams, can you kindly shed some light on the dual, tri, quad, hexa and eight channel memory architectures ? In what terms it’s beneficial?

Hi,
x299 dark was so late on release evga dumped most of them on their ebay store and eventually on their main website too at 150.us+-
Good board just evga was way too late on releasing it.

Exactly, I still remember or may be the x299 might still be there for upto 150$ None the less the onboard sound was soundcore3d from creative.

Yea, we just have to ignore the ridiculousness of quad channel for no point or gain.

lol, what do you mean by that ?

 

[Dinnercore]

lol, what do you mean by that ?

I'd like to know too, I guess it was a hint that quad-channel has no benefit for typical gaming or simple office use applications?

can you kindly shed some light on the dual, tri, quad, hexa and eight channel memory architectures ? In what terms it’s beneficial?

In short, more channels improve the bandwidth, meaning more data can be moved in and out of RAM. AIDA has a memory benchmark that shows read, write and copy speeds. DDR4 dual-channel systems typically see 50-60 GB/s, quad-channel on X299 can go up to 120 GB/s.
But you need to have an application that actually needs that bandwidth. That's usually rather specific workloads, what do you want to do with your machine?

Games, streaming, regular photo editing etc. do not really benefit from quad-channel. It also comes at a slight to moderate cost of latency speed.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

simple rampage vi extreme with 7980x.

Honestly if this is your only option you don't have much of a choice, but.... I must forewarn you that board has VRM overheating issues and requires a monoblock to operate beyond all-stock usage. It's not really an ideal board at all, so would recommend going for this then selling the board and picking up a x299 dark or omega instead, how much is this combo anyways? Honestly I don't think of TR as much of an option here, it'll be much slower in gaming and the only TR worthwhile is TRX40, which is likely out of your budget/doesn't make sense compared to Zen3 or similar anyways for your use, (not that X299 does make sense here).

 

[aQi]

I'd like to know too, I guess it was a hint that quad-channel has no benefit for typical gaming or simple office use applications?


In short, more channels improve the bandwidth, meaning more data can be moved in and out of RAM. AIDA has a memory benchmark that shows read, write and copy speeds. DDR4 dual-channel systems typically see 50-60 GB/s, quad-channel on X299 can go up to 120 GB/s.
But you need to have an application that actually needs that bandwidth. That's usually rather specific workloads, what do you want to do with your machine?

Games, streaming, regular photo editing etc. do not really benefit from quad-channel. It also comes at a slight to moderate cost of latency speed.

Yes i have that in mind. To be honest its going to get more multi-task incentive. consider it as a pc working 24/7 with everything minimized to the task bar. I had some good experience doing that with x58 platform with tri channel with a 2000mhz rated memory. Those were some golden days.

Honestly if this is your only option you don't have much of a choice, but.... I must forewarn you that board has VRM overheating issues and requires a monoblock to operate beyond all-stock usage. It's not really an ideal board at all, so would recommend going for this then selling the board and picking up a x299 dark or omega instead, how much is this combo anyways? Honestly I don't think of TR as much of an option here, it'll be much slower in gaming and the only TR worthwhile is TRX40, which is likely out of your budget/doesn't make sense compared to Zen3 or similar anyways for your use, (not that X299 does make sense here).

Its around 1250$ excluding shipping cost in my country. Well I am not considering like that if I am going to spend this much money. You are right on the gaming side as most of the people advise me not to go for threadrippers as they are not so good in gaming. I cant say much about TRX40 as they are way out of my budget.

Off-topic: Have you ever used Asus Dominus Extreme ?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Off-topic: Have you ever used Asus Dominus Extreme ?

No, but I have a discord with a relatively large number who have (for this platform) and it's generally not the best board choice, the platform is problematic in general and you will need warranty on this type of board - they actually have issues such as cold bugging at ambient temperatures - the only way to start it is with a hairdryer over the temperature sensor near the RAM, however this can be repaired usually or RMAd and repaired by Asus - depends on the batch as to whether it's been fixed, only two users in my discord had the board working and one had to RMA before it worked flawlessly.

 

[aQi]

No, but I have a discord with a relatively large number who have (for this platform) and it's generally not the best board choice, the platform is problematic in general and you will need warranty on this type of board - they actually have issues such as cold bugging at ambient temperatures - the only way to start it is with a hairdryer over the temperature sensor near the RAM, however this can be repaired usually or RMAd and repaired by Asus - depends on the batch as to whether it's been fixed, only two users in my discord had the board working and one had to RMA before it worked flawlessly.

Well I like the board I can fix these small issues it would not be the case with ambient temp sensor but some resistors or perhaps transistors. I have an eye on a Xeon Gold and there is a Platinum as well with a particular shop keeper but I simply cant find a economical Dominus anywhere. Tell me this compared to other plateforms x299 or x399 ? If i get a good deal on Dominus would that be a game changer ? since TRX80 is way more capable yet very very expensive.