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Intel Core Ultra 9 285K

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Finally! Intel's new Arrow Lake architecture is launched. The new CPUs are full of design changes, like removal of Hyper-Threading, new Lion Cove P-Cores, an improved Thread Director and more. In our review we got surprising results that were both impressive and disappointing.

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My $196 7800x3d is still king in gaming, thank you Microcenter and Lisa Su.
 
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Well, AMD will price 9000X3D CPUs whatever they want
Intel has used the advanced node but the result wasn't that good when compared to their competitor
Gaming bench from HUB: gaming behind 7700X is insane
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Wow, and I thought Zen5% was bad..... smh 2024 the year of shite....
 
oxrufiioxo said:
Wow, and I thought Zen5% was bad..... smh 2024 the year of shite....
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Arrow Lake was supposed to big win too, and it can't even beat raptor lake in gaming, Intel is truly a joke at this point. I would say incoming stock price drop, but we all know our government will keep propping up this failed company because they have no alternatives. lol
 
Chaitanya said:
saw review of latest microcode for 13 and 14 "gens" and it seems like those CPUs are quite significantly hamstrung and now this. With AMD shooting itself in foot thanks to loudmouths and now this from Intel. Good year for bank accounts.
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The best thing for me was getting a 7950X3D for 465 and a 7800X3D for 300 although that ended up with my buddy everything since has been meh AF.
 
Space Lynx said:
Arrow Lake was supposed to big win too, and it can't even beat raptor lake in gaming, Intel is truly a joke at this point. I would say incoming stock price drop, but we all know our government will keep propping up this failed company because they have no alternatives. lol
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Even funny is the fact that Intel went to TSMC to get those CPUs made and atleast they wont self destruct like the ones made by Intel themselves though they still are power hungry beasts.

Edit: I am far more curious to see memory side of things with these CPUs as this is the 1st mainstream CPU platform to enable subchannels for DDR5 and they also have added support for CUDIMMs.
 
@W1zzard

What do the three separate colorings on the power charts mean? They all say stock. I didn’t see a note anywhere referencing it, at least on that page.
 
i think this is a pretty good direction intel is taking even though the gaming perf loses to previous intel and amd cpu, but it gains in efficiency and also its primary focus is in A.I which clearly shows its capability but for gamers... stick with 7800x3d. Like the conclusion said the cpu is easy to cool that means you can use some mid range air cooler and it won't throttle... compare to the inferno mess of the 14900k which require hefty cooling and not to mention expensive too.
its good intel releasing this. It has to start somewhere and it can only get better
 
Gaming is not good (of which I don't care).
A Chinese review tried to disable the E-cores and gaming performance improved by -5 - +15%. E-cores have much higher (+~50%) memory latency than P-cores.
They also tried undervolting and the power consumption of 285K improved by ~100W under stress test.
Imo this is fine. It doesn't do super well vs AMD but it has some good characteristics compared to Raptor Lake I welcome.
Next gen should be better and AMD shouldn't become complacent.
Imo next time they need to lower the E-core vs P-core latency and add more cache because it didn't change compared to Raptor Lake.
 
And they said that Zen5 was a disappointment.
 
Good God! In some of those graphs, this thing is getting positively spanked by AMD and even by Intel's older chips. This thing is a flop!
 
JohH said:
So I guess 2022 is the year x64 hit a brick wall with instruction-level parallelism and clock rates. But we hadn't realized it yet.
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No, it didn't. Zen 5 is a significant improvement over Zen 4, but you wouldn't know it if you only considered gaming. What's clear is that the memory wall is making scaling ever more difficult.
 
JohH said:
So I guess 2022 is the year x64 hit a brick wall with instruction-level parallelism and clock rates. But we hadn't realized it yet.
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No, it doesn't. Zen 5 is insanely fast in server, AMD got 16 core CCD but they didn't bring to consumer segment. They want to make more profit by selling CPUs in EPYC and Threadripper label.
 
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I know improved energy efficiency was the main focus here, but it came at too much of a cost.
 
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