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Intel LGA 1700 socket problem??

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Yes, horrible picture, sorry. Quick pic with an Iphone 6 before boxing it up.
There was no damage when the CPU was installed. Frightening that just lifting the CPU out could damage the socket. Its like the CPU pins bonded to the socket traces and pulled them up.
Just a defect? One time failure?
MSI socket issue that has not been widely reported yet?
LGA 1700 socket issue that has not been widely reported yet?
 

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Notice how they are pulled up? I still think that either they stuck to the processor and were lifted up when it was removed or they
were loose to begin with. This socket is a whole new design. Also, if they were damaged as bad as they look there is no way it would have ran perfectly for two weeks.
It was removed by simply unlocking the latch and carefully lifting it straight up.
 
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I haven't damaged a socket besides dropping the CPU on it. Bent pins is user error generally.
Yeah but when have the other sockets suffered damage from dropping a cpu on it? I've dropped cpu on sockets pga sockets more than I can remember and never damaged the socket nor cpu. Even when a cpu fell off the side of a desk once resulting in a row of bent pins, the issue was easily resolved with click pen. So that aspect of the less resilient design can't be written off a user error.
 

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The socket certainly is not a new design. I can't think of any way the pins in the socket would bond to the CPU contacts unless they were power ones and somehow overloaded and "welded" themselves to the CPU. I would have liked a better pic.

My guess is, on return, they will say "user error"
 
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The socket certainly is not a new design. I can't think of any way the pins in the socket would bond to the CPU contacts unless they were power ones and somehow overloaded and "welded" themselves to the CPU. I would have liked a better pic.

My guess is, on return, they will say "user error"
They could have cold welded if the the points of contact were clean enough, unlikely but plausible
 
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They could have cold welded if the the points of contact were clean enough, unlikely but plausible
It sure as heck couldn't. Unless they kept their computer in a vacuum, which i highly doubt.
 
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It sure as heck couldn't. Unless they kept their computer in a vacuum, which i highly doubt.
Presence of vacuum isn't required for a cold weld to occur. Being in vacuum just reduces the probability of a foreign atom coming in between the two metal atoms or reacting with the metal atoms to zero.
Also gold does not form an oxide layer.

 
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Irrelevant how it happened. Every manufacturer out there will reject RMA for damaged socket pins. User error every time.
 

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The socket certainly is not a new design. I can't think of any way the pins in the socket would bond to the CPU contacts unless they were power ones and somehow overloaded and "welded" themselves to the CPU. I would have liked a better pic.

My guess is, on return, they will say "user error"
12th gen does use a new socket design, which can actually bend the CPU's themselves (see igors lab)


Any previous socket, i'd be saying user error... but with a socket that flexes and bends CPUs? Might be a design flaw.
 

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12th gen does use a new socket design, which can actually bend the CPU's themselves (see igors lab)


Any previous socket, i'd be saying user error... but with a socket that flexes and bends CPUs? Might be a design flaw.

I meant as in the LGA socket. It might be slightly different, but it is not really a new design as it is still LGA

From what i read, it was cheaper boards that was the problem, not the socket. As far as i know there hasn't been any high end board with socket problems has there? Wasn't it a cheaper board that had the problem. Otherwise why would every LGA 1700 socket suffer the same? I have a really thick EK backplate on my board, and my chip is still perfectly flat.
 
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I meant as in the LGA socket. It might be slightly different, but it is not really a new design as it is still LGA

From what i read, it was cheaper boards that was the problem, not the socket. As far as i know there hasn't been any high end board with socket problems has there? Wasn't it a cheaper board that had the problem. Otherwise why would every LGA 1700 socket suffer the same? I have a really thick EK backplate on my board, and my chip is still perfectly flat.
In the write up he mentioned that the more expensive boards are affected it's that the the boughing is less pronounced and needs to test further if their adversely affected and if so by how much. He made it clear that it was not the cheap boards that are the problem, it's the high clamping pressure of LGA1700. Just merely dropping the cpu, closing the retention clip and presto a bendy board, some more bendy than others. It's all there clearly written how did you miss all that? What about folks using stock coolers or air coolers that don't utilize a backplate? Fk 'em bc your wb has one thus sidesteps the issue?
 

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Fk 'em bc your wb has one thus sidesteps the issue?

Did i say that NO i never. What makes you think i don't give a fuck as long as i am ok. I stated mine did not have a problem, maybe because of the thick backplate. I was wondering why everyone on TPU with a LGA 1700 setup who hasn't got a water block on their system hasn't had the problem happen. Jesus some fucking people i think maybe you need another coffee or something

It was because of this-If you take a rather “cheap” Z690 board, in this case an ASRock Z690 Extreme, Incidentally, system integrators also pointed out that the rather cheaper boards with thinner PCBs already had a U-shaped bulge around the socket before a CPU was even inserted. that i said wasn't it a cheaper board that had the problem. I have just read through the page i originally linked and he never says more expensive boards have the same problem. Maybe you need to go back and re read it too.
 
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I was having issues with my MSI Z690 Edge Wifi DDR4, I7 system locking up.
After a lot of diagnosis the Motherboard became suspect.

This afternoon I disassembled the board for return and found this damage when I removed the CPU.
In my experience, once it's in the socket, I never had a failure of socket pins. In fact, in that photo, it looks just like pre-CPU-installation damage!

In fact, a properly-installed CPU, acts like a shield, with Intel LGA! This is why I like getting second-hand Intel-platform motherboards with a CPU installed in it!
For example, getting a socket 1366 motherboard with a Core i7 920 in it.

Irrelevant how it happened. Every manufacturer out there will reject RMA for damaged socket pins. User error every time.
Except for January, 2013, when I had to have the motherboard returned for repair at the least, because the Asus Maximus II Gene, was advertised as working. And, I did get a properly working one on February 11, 2013. It took weeks, like it was sent to China, but getting a working one a month later, is a ton better than never!

I narrowly escaped the worst that I feared. I was very close to having to keep my Asus P5QL Pro. (P43)

Today, 9 years ago, there were unusually high temps outside (52 F! A record for Springfield, Vermont on January 14, 2013) and I went for a walk, to come back to the motherboard always failing to boot, I got nothing but fan and LEDs! Then, I saw the terrible-looking socket!
 
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