Intel Unveils 28-core/56-thread HEDT Processor

windwhirl · Jun 5, 2018

I like how Intel compares their new CPU with a dual (6 cores per socket) Westmere Xeon X5650

jabbadap · Jun 5, 2018

windwhirl said:
I like how Intel compares their new CPU with a dual (6 cores per socket) Westmere Xeon X5650

Nah, that is just Cinebench generic score list. If you download Cinebench R15 and run it yourself, your score will be compared to same cpus.

dirtyferret · Jun 5, 2018

Finally a CPU I can play crysis with!!!

Caring1 · Jun 6, 2018

jabbadap said:
Nah, that is just Cinebench generic score list. If you download Cinebench R15 and run it yourself, your score will be compared to same cpus.

I like how Cinebench shows Windows 8 was used, even though Windows 10 is touted as the best O.S. EVA :roll:

xkm1948 · Jun 6, 2018

jabbadap said:
Uhm not likely, by the time frame it have been sampling TR2 will most probably be based on 12nm Zen+ cores, thus 16 core for x399 platform is max.

7nm Zen2 will be all about adding cores among the other things, but that is 3rd gen ryzens including TR3.

Slap on the face, 32 Core 64 Thread TR2 just announced

natr0n · Jun 6, 2018

This is a PR stunt to get us talking. There is a water chiller or some shit connected to the bottom on that pc.

R0H1T · Jun 6, 2018

natr0n said:
This is a PR stunt to get us talking. There is a water chiller or some shit connected to the bottom on that pc.

Speculated to be phase change (by Toms) cooling or chiller, as you said, however the results are impressive considering the mini ITER that was running on stage.

As an aside, you know what's even crazier is that 7nm could potentially bring 64c TR to the masses!

jabbadap · Jun 6, 2018

xkm1948 said:
Slap on the face, 32 Core 64 Thread TR2 just announced

Well half was correct, they are 12nm Zen+ cores. But nonetheless i gladly admit my defeat. It will be interesting to see those compared to EPYC -processors with 8-channel memory.

iO · Jun 6, 2018

R0H1T said:
Speculated to be phase change (by Toms) cooling or chiller, as you said, however the results are impressive considering the mini ITER that was running on stage.

As an aside, you know what's even crazier is that 7nm could potentially bring 64c TR to the masses!

And a 28 phase VRM board. I bet it pulled more than 1000Watts at 5Ghz.

JalleR · Jun 6, 2018

natr0n said:
This is a PR stunt to get us talking. There is a water chiller or some shit connected to the bottom on that pc.

Yes if you see the video from the presentation, it is Clear to see that there is Compressor cooling involved.

Kinestron · Jun 6, 2018

dwade said:
RIP AMD

RIP Intel. LOL
Sorry to sane posters. I couldn't resist responding to this idiot once this news broke.

https://www.techpowerup.com/244901/amd-announces-2nd-generation-ryzen-threadripper-with-32-cores

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jun 6, 2018

neyla12 said:
It was only a matter of time before Intel maxed out the "Skylake-X" silicon on the client segment, by bringing its "Skylake XCC" (extreme core count) 700 mm² die on a client-segment package, and here we are. Without taking model names, Intel made it clear that it's launching a new client-segment 28-core/56-thread processor. The company didn't specify the processor's package, and we're doubtful if it's LGA2066 for the simple reason that the Skylake XCC die has 6-channel memory interface. Nevertheless, this processor is clocked at 2.70 GHz (nominal), and without revealing Turbo speeds, Intel managed to overclock it bench-stable to 5.00 GHz, at which it scored 7,334 nT Cinebench points. This product will launch in Q4-2018.

I think that a dreamy estimate personally, And I dont expect it to be within my financial reach, im expecting north of 3 thousand dollars Just for the cpu and i doubt it would be a massive production run ie not many of this Halo look we could beat Amd product will sell because unlike TR this costs an absolute fortune to make, diffuse and package and that's despite intels real 3+ year expertise at 14nm now.

Kinestron said:
RIP Intel. LOL
Sorry to sane posters. I couldn't resist responding to this idiot once this news broke.

https://www.techpowerup.com/244901/amd-announces-2nd-generation-ryzen-threadripper-with-32-cores

Agree I didnt see that coming at all due to memory constraints but ,Amd Might have one upped past them here, hence the 5Ghz demo intel put on imho.

@cadaveca Really , Really looking forward to hearing from you in review form now dude ,you can take your time for me as your clarity and insight will be nice and refreshing i'm sure, would'nt mind a tease bench though

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Cybrnook2002 · Jun 7, 2018

DeathtoGnomes · Jun 8, 2018

Wow talk about some fake news, ok very misleading. Funny as hell all the tech news sites are jumping on the shitnews bandwagon. :shadedshu:

Huge Fail by Intel.

Steevo · Jun 8, 2018

Liquid chilled with 1000W cooler, cause that is what every user has, and the 1300W PSU, 2300W of power in one netburst knee jerk response.

Impressive as using liquid helium...

Patriot · Jun 8, 2018

Steevo said:
Liquid chilled with 1000W cooler, cause that is what every user has, and the 1300W PSU, 2300W of power in one netburst knee jerk response.

Impressive as using liquid helium...

I like seeing max overclock results as much as anyone... just don't lie to me about what it is... Show me stock, show me water overclock, then get the Ln2 out and go nuts. Don't try and hide a waterchiller and pretend this is stock.

Heck, I held the cinebench11.5 benchmark WR in the sandy-e era with an amd box overclocked to the wall (3.8ghz 48c)... drawing obscene amounts of power (1450w wall), took bricktown to smack it down. The scores they posted are obscene... its nuts... but also not even close to anything anyone will ever be able to replicate for a generation or two.

Aquinus · Jun 8, 2018

btarunr said:
700 mm² die

RIP decent yields. Price won't likely be competitive and if it is, availability won't be.

cadaveca · Jun 9, 2018

Aquinus said:
RIP decent yields. Price won't likely be competitive and if it is, availability won't be.

But they already make these chips for servers, so this might actually improve the server-side yields, no?

That's the thing... Intel did NOT really announce anything new. They just offered an unlock.

Aquinus · Jun 9, 2018

cadaveca said:
But they already make these chips for servers, so this might actually improve the server-side yields, no?

With a > 8,000 USD price tag? The improvement in yields would need to be amazing to bring that price anywhere within reason. Even an EPYC 7601 costs half as much.

efikkan · Jun 10, 2018

cadaveca said:
But they already make these chips for servers, so this might actually improve the server-side yields, no?

That's the thing... Intel did NOT really announce anything new. They just offered an unlock.

The Skylake-SP series at 20-28 cores are produced in relatively low volumes, so bringing them to the consumer platform will require ramping up production quite a lot.

Also keep in mind that these will be based on Cascade Lake-SP, not Skylake-SP, so some minor improvements can be expected.

R0H1T · Jun 10, 2018

efikkan said:
The Skylake-SP series at 20-28 cores are produced in relatively low volumes, so bringing them to the consumer platform will require ramping up production quite a lot.

Also keep in mind that these will be based on Cascade Lake-SP, not Skylake-SP, so some minor improvements can be expected.

This is speculated, none (including Intel) have officially confirmed the uarch. Your other point is more valid, the volume will need to go up for the XCC die & Intel's net profit & margins will go down (possibly significantly) as they're selling server parts for peanuts, relatively speaking.

The other rumor floating around is that this is SKL-SP & that Cascadelake X will have (some) hardware mitigation for spectre/meltdown i.e. all SKL-SP dies might be sold to retail (HEDT) while Cascadelake X takes over the enterprise segment.

efikkan · Jun 10, 2018

R0H1T said:
This is speculated, none (including Intel) have officially confirmed the uarch. Your other point is more valid, the volume will need to go up for the XCC die & Intel's net profit & margins will go down (possibly significantly) as they're selling server parts for peanuts, relatively speaking.

The other rumor floating around is that this is SKL-SP & that Cascadelake X will have (some) hardware mitigation for spectre/meltdown i.e. all SKL-SP dies might be sold to retail (HEDT) while Cascadelake X takes over the enterprise segment.

Intel have shown several roadmaps displaying Cascade Lake.
Intel have also "promised" in-silicon fixes for Spectre this year.
So none of this is speculation from my side.

cadaveca · Jun 10, 2018

efikkan said:
Intel have shown several roadmaps displaying Cascade Lake.
Intel have also "promised" in-silicon fixes for Spectre this year.
So none of this is speculation from my side.

Right, but what do they do with the chips they've already made?

And as enthusiasts, do we really care about those problems, most of which can be mitigated by software, if the price is right?

I could see it going either way. But what has me more interested is where all that 5 GHz DDR4 is going...

PANDA AVIATION · Jun 11, 2018

Depending on Japanese media (inteview from COMPUTEX2018 oem partner) It is not Cascade Lake - X but Basin Falls Refresh.
Cascade Lake-X is aimed at next year's sales and they are.

Prima.Vera · Jun 11, 2018

cadaveca said:
... But what has me more interested is where all that 5 GHz DDR4 is going...

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