Intel "Willow Cove" Backported to 14nm is "Cypress Cove"?

1d10t · Jun 15, 2020

So much for Intel 10nm is better than 7nm or even 5nm TSMC

efikkan · Jun 15, 2020

ppn said:
The IPC is there, but until DDR5-4800 may not manifest itself very well. Everything is stuck now. Not constrained by 14nm, but other things. It will all come together nicely by 2024.

DDR5 will bring more bandwidth, not quicker response times. More bandwidth only benefits workloads which are bandwidth constrained, most are not, and those who need more bandwidth can go for HEDT and get twice the bandwidth.

If you want higher performance from memory, you want tighter timings. This usually requires higher voltage, and all the other problems associated with overclocking.

watzupken · Jun 15, 2020

Bwaze said:

I believe this was the aggressive goal that the CEO Swan mentioned that caused them to trip badly. As it stands, I don't think their 10nm is as good/ dense as what was originally planned. Also if we expand this to 2020, "Others" would be a lot closer to their planned 10nm density than they are now since this graph stops at 2017 for the "Others" graph.

AusWolf · Jun 15, 2020

So the guys at Intel do not only have a million different (but essentially similar) architectures planned, but also different lithography versions of each architecture with a different codename. Who exactly are they trying to fool here?

thesmokingman · Jun 15, 2020

What next Dry Lake?

AusWolf · Jun 15, 2020

thesmokingman said:
What next Dry Lake?

Too late, their lakes seem to be dry enough already. :roll:

Dave65 · Jun 15, 2020

AusWolf said:
Too late, their lakes seem to be dry enough already.

14 nm is dry lake :roll:

Looks like AMD is going to be KING for a lot of years, the fan babies won't like that :roll:

AusWolf · Jun 15, 2020

Dave65 said:
14 nm is dry lake
Looks like AMD is going to be KING for a lot of years, the fan babies won't like that

Fan babies don't care. They'll buy the next 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Intel chip and stick their pizza-stained "GAMING POWAH" flags on the front door as always. :roll:

Turmania · Jun 15, 2020

Intel, lost the plot. They are all over the place.names and codes I bet even their own marketing is lost within.

tygrus · Jun 16, 2020

Compromises from over-reaching. Skating on thin ice. Trying to use distractions.

Intel FAB progress is Frozen-in-lake .. Hey look, a polar bear.

matar · Jun 16, 2020

Year 2030 Intel 14nm Mars lake. :laugh:

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