So 10+ from the 1000s of people that own 5700s and 5700Xts on one of the most popular social media sites for tech means that it is still a no buy? Even though it is based on price the best performing brand new GPU you can buy bar none?
@ 1440p, The 5700 XT is % faster .... but not the way most of us use it.
Numbers in ( ) are overclock achieved over referernce). I used MSI since TPU had the numbers for all 3 cards
Reference 5700 XT = 102 x (120.4 / 112.0) = 109 for MSI AIB
Reference 2060 S = 96 x (136.2 / 122.2) = 107 for MSI AIB
Reference 2070 = 100 x (144.5 / 128.3) = 113 for MSI AIB
So in reality, overclocked the way we use them, the 5700 XT sits between the 2060 S and the 2070. The problem is, as the big discounts that were applied after the S cards were released, the 2070 wsas the proverbial "no brainer" of late costs have been skyrocketing and the $400 price tags have become very scarce. If ya can still find one, that's the way to go. If ya can't look elsewhere
The AIB 2070 S comes in comes in at a 97 / 87 compared to the 5700 XT @ 1440p
MSI's GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming X is a factory overclocked custom-design that's priced only $10 higher than the Founders Edition. It is cooled by a large triple-slot, dual-fan heatsink that has fan-stop and runs cooler and much quieter than the NVIDIA Founders Edition.
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MSI AIB 5700 XT = 87 x (120.4 / 112.0) = 93.52
MSI AB 2070 S = 97 x (162.2 / 145.8) = 111.25
2070S reference is therefore 11.5% faster than the Reference 5700 XT
AIB 2070S overclocked is therefore 19 % faster than the AIB 5700 XT
Cost of ownership for Gigabyte Windforce OC 5700 XT = $409.99
Cost of ownership for Gigabyte Windforce OC 2070 S = $499.99
19 % more performance for 22% increase in cost ... given the law of diminishing returns, sounds like a good deal
However judging by card cost is kinda a red herring ... the card doesn't do anything by itself. To do a real comparison, ya have to use a the whole box.
a $1200 build w/ 5700XT is $1200
A $120 build switched to the 2070 S is $1290 ....
$1290 / $1200 = 7.5% more cost of build for 19% more performance
So either way, it's hard to argue against either choice on a price / performance basis when we just consider base costs. But what about total costs ?
AIB 2070 S uses 217 watts in gaming on average, hits 72C at Load + OC and runs at 31 dbA.
AIB 5700 XT uses 270 watts in gaming on average, hits 71C at Load + OC and runs at 32 dbA.
The only number of significance here is the power. USe US average electric cost is $0.11 and 30 hours a week of gaming w/ 88% PSU Efficiency
Cost of Running AIB 2070 S = $169.84
Cost of Running 5700 AIB XT = $211.32
Cost of ownership for Gigabyte Windforce OC 5700 XT = $409.99 + $211.32 = $ 621.31
Cost of ownership for Gigabyte Windforce OC 2070 S = $499.99 + $169.84 = $ 669.83 ... that's 7.8% more costs for a 19% performance increase
Now for case cooling .... at the recommended 1 case fan per 50-75 watts, 1 extra case fan for the 5700 XT build is + $15 or $636.31 ... that's 5.3% more costs for a 19% performance increase
What about PSU, is it borderline ? Do you need to account for the extra 53 watts ? 500-550 ?
Now of course fanbois from both camps will argue why this factor should or should not matter... but costs must include all costs for a fair cpomparison or yu are ignoring advantages. Yeah, if ya live at home and Mom and Dad pay the bills, or if you live in a apartment and electric isn't included, maybe ya wanna leave that out .... but that's not apples and apples. However, when all is said and done the 2070 S is not 10% faster .... apples and apples with both cards OCd is 19% faster the way the majority of this audience uses their. And regardless of whether you go apples and apples and include total cost of ownership or bare costs, I'd find it hard to give up just under 20% performance advantage
The point here is not which card you pick ... only that you use a rational means of making the decision. If a user came in wanting to use a raden VII, Id' dtry and talkthem out of it... the card has no place in this world. But a 5700XT vs 2070 S, I'd choose the 2070 S but each individual's choice for any set of cards should depend on all relevant factors
If you overclock your cards, don't use "out of the box" performance comparisons to make your choice.
If your PSU is borderline, consider that the 207 S uses 53 watts less
If you pay utility bills, consider the power savings
If you are concerned about interior case temps, and impact on componentry, consider the cost of an extra fan to offset the extra heat.
If you are concerned about noise and heat, consider those
Because each person's needs are different, they best card for one may not be the best card for the other. All too often, he card is picked to satisfy brand loyalty, and then only the data that supports that decision is considered.
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