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£150 for the lot somes are unused.
Distance: 100 miles back and forth

So for the £150 you'd get two 360mm rads, one thick 120mm rad, an xspc ion pump/res combo, a few meters of premochill tubing, an ek cpu block unused in box, an ek rampage 5 edition 10 waterblock and a rampage 4 black edition waterblock, a box full of assorted fittings and a tube cutter, 5L of distilled water and i think that's it but I may be forgetting something
 
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If it's easier for you - Grab an alphacool eisbaer 360mm and expand the loop - cheap and easy.

For £150 It's hard to beat so I'd go for it
 
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Is it worth it to buy (watercooling parts)
Not if you don't need watercooling - which most people don't. A decent CPU cooler with, of course, properly applied TIM) and a good case with properly setup case cooling is all the vast majority of users ever need.
 
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It is purely for bragging rights or aesthetic appeal. At most it will give you 200 MHz over a high end air cooler, with additional hassle involved.
 
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You can get the distilled water at "Piggly Wiggly," but the rest of it seems like a good deal. Of course that all depends on how scumfudged it all is. If it's dirty enough, they should be paying you to take it.
 

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£150 for the lot somes are unused.
Distance: 100 miles back and forth

So for the £150 you'd get two 360mm rads, one thick 120mm rad, an xspc ion pump/res combo, a few meters of premochill tubing, an ek cpu block unused in box, an ek rampage 5 edition 10 waterblock and a rampage 4 black edition waterblock, a box full of assorted fittings and a tube cutter, 5L of distilled water and i think that's it but I may be forgetting something
Worth it if you want the best cooling short of phase change. You can clock higher and run cooler, even in the most demanding workloads.
 

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It is purely for bragging rights or aesthetic appeal. At most it will give you 200 MHz over a high end air cooler, with additional hassle involved.
Sounds more like an aio than a custom loop
 
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Unless you're buying an AIO, or going all out custom, no expense spared, watercooling is simply not worth it. Sure, you may get 5.3 instead of 5.2ghz on your 8700k, and sure, your load temps might be 50 degrees instead of 75, but the CPU won't throttle or degrade at either of those temps, and with air you don't need to worry about maintenance or leaks.

Get a NH-D15s with 2 fans and you won't look back.
 
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It is purely for bragging rights or aesthetic appeal. At most it will give you 200 MHz over a high end air cooler, with additional hassle involved.
Proof or source.
 

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we all like a good looking system and some like to Brag.
I agree. But not all of use spend time gawking at or into our computer cases. I prefer my cases to sit quietly and discreetly off to the side as I tend to pay attention to what's on my monitors.

And bragging rights are fine too but others quickly tire of braggarts. Plus, those small improvements in performance seen on paper and in benchmarks rarely result in true increases in productivity or gaming enjoyment - other than that received via the placebo effect.

So I stick with my comment earlier - but with emphasis now applied to the key words,
A decent CPU cooler with, of course, properly applied TIM) and a good case with properly setup case cooling is all the vast majority of users ever need.
 
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A good excuse I use for water cooling, huge air coolers are heavy and can potentially warp the board. Another excuse is that air coolers are so large they limit access to fan headers, and sometimes the top PCIe slot. In reality, once you have your system set up, there's rarely need to access these headers, maybe when you upgrade your fans. My Corsair H110 is now 4 years old, still works great, but for how much longer? Now I wish I'd gone with air cooling, and I probably will, when the AIO finally craps out. My 4790k will not run stable over 4.6 anyway, so a large expensive custom loop would not get me more performance, just slightly lower temps.
 
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we all like a good looking system and some like to Brag.



Pure popcorn moment
"You want Proof of Bragging" >>> o_O:laugh::roll:>>>:lovetpu::p
Nope serious, "at the most it will give 200mhz" - That's utter BS and If I can get 200mhz oc on a stock cooler then this noob doesn't own an aio or can't overclock properly.

we all like a good looking system and some like to Brag.



Pure popcorn moment
"You want Proof of Bragging" >>> o_O:laugh::roll:>>>:lovetpu::p
10/10 interpreting skills very funny.
 
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If you want your computer to actually sit "quietly ", then WC that is the way to go. I'll be the 1st to say replacing a top end air cooler ... and by top end I mean the $37 Scythe Mugen Max or $45 Fuma as well as the $90 Noctua NH-D15 or Cyrorig Ulitmate ... is a far better choice than a CLC for a CPU, as no CLC can match the vor noise and performance / cost ratio. But it's obvious by your component list, that you are not looking at "CPU only" cooling.

If I can tell that the machine is on, with my ears, then it's not quiet. Since Haswell, we haven't had a build limited by the temperature wall, as we run up against the voltage wall before temperature ever becomes an issue ... one of the reasons why I just don't "get" deliding. My son's box (Swiftech AIO w/ added GFX Card water block and extra rad) is dead silent. The only downside is more than once he's left in on and when the screen went to sleep, he tried to turn it on when it already was. My box (dual pump, 420 + 280 rads, 4 water blocks) is also dead silent... and yes I have also tried to turn my system on when I forget I didn't turn it off. :)

With twin 360s, you should easily be able to handle an Intel i5 / i7 with twin GFX cards in SLI and keep fans in the silent range (550-850 rpm).

And while we don't sit and stare at our creations, we do take pride in our workmanship. Aesthetics is apparently all the rage these days w/ everything associated with PC just must be RGB, it would seem most folks are looking to make an impression. has one instance where i recommended the Swiftech AIO over the Kraken X62 for performance, serviceability, pump size, noise, expandability and mixed metals reasons and the users only concern was whether it had RGB. The only person's judgement I have to satisfy is my own. And I can't sit peacefully at my desk while just to my right is a big box with tubing running every which way, if I hear noise coming out of it .... a bunch of distracting flashie lightie things would be just as bad. The "disorder" offend my engineer's sense in a major. So yes, I use fittings and rigid tubing so everything is in straight lines and if one is a degree outta whack, I'll take apart and fix it. Kind like if O bought a table or a set of cabinets, I'd have significant questions on workmanship if a gass laid on its side rolled from one end to another.

Also .... It's not just the result but the journey that is to be enjoyed and building a WC system is quite enjoyable.
 

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Just a few worlds for those who are not into Watercooling Systems, why should i run my CPU at 50c/60c or even more when it could run at 40c/35c or less?
 
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Just a few worlds for those who are not into Watercooling Systems, why should i run my CPU at 50c/60c or even more when it could run at 40c/35c or less?
+3, my noctua nh-d14 ran my 6600k at 75c max at 4.5 and when I switched to a silent loop 280mm it hits 58c max load, that's generic cooler paste used too - MX4 will drop temps further. The cost difference between an aio and air cooler is minuscule anyway in most cases.
 
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Just a few worlds for those who are not into Watercooling Systems, why should i run my CPU at 50c/60c or even more when it could run at 40c/35c or less?
I have no problem with you doing so. But I think that if the typical buyer has to decide between allocating finite money towards either a watercooling system or a faster ssd or faster graphics card, the watercooling system offers very little performance gain relative to the cost. The processors themselves can safely run as high as 80*C 24/7 or even higher without any problems. From those lower temperatures, you might gain an additional 100-300 mhz that really does not change the performance of the computer except in benchmarks. I respect you for building a watercooling system, I think they are neat, but for individuals with limited funds, it is not a great expenditure relative to the performance gain. There are also downsides besides cost: monitoring the loop for leaks, pump failure, difficulty of changing components without dismantling the loop, to name a few. On the other hand, buying a top end air cooler is a simple thing and the device will work even if a fan fails. I prefer a simpler, cheaper, and less stressful option.
 
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I see people complain about loud water cooling loops, either custom or AIO loops, in my exp, the ones I've tested or installed in my years have always been cooler ,and quieter than air cooling. If it weren't for the way I had my fans installed/setup, and the lights on my case, you'd have no way of knowing my PC was running. Just like with anything, I'm certain you could find a crappy model water system that has a noisy pump (but thats on the buyer/builder). You're going to have fans with air or water (the same amonut too if your experienced), and if you use a common fan between two systems, the only thing a water cooling system would do to be noisier than a heatsink, is pump liquid, & ive never had a loud pump ( i've never even had an audible pump), unless you were to put your ear an inch or two from it , & only a nutjob is measuring/labeling a system as "noisy" by doing that .

Nope, in my opinion, this is either a case of poorly selected components, or (w/ all due respect) inexperienced builders/critics. fwiw
 

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@ OP, ask yourself this:
Do i need to water-cool my PC? since the kit you are looking at is ultra nice priced, price tag wont be something any air cooler might beat according performance and parts,


Watercooling can be something pretty interesting for a computer, with the maintenance thing, custom loops might need to be bleed, water replacement and pretty important, dust out, rads and fans carry and store dust particles, so every year or so you should take things apart and clean out, also, the risk of a leak is always at the corner, i did build a watercooler loop for my machine, used a 280mm double rad, 120mm thick rad, CPU (mono block for asus X99board) and full cover block (for titan Z) waterblock, rigid tubing, and waterpump reservoir combo, no problems had it for 3 months, then sold the entire rig, temps were amazing yes, computer aesthetics amazing, did had 1 leak, due my fault, now im back to my older rig and AIO watercooling just for CPU, watercooling is a interesting adventure, you have to decide if you have the enough money to build, the patience to try and correct mistakes and the enthusiasm for cleaning and keeping amazing, personally i dont like that much air coolers,


Regards
 
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Not really sure about the pump res combo, but the rest of the stuff seems like OK value to me.

Assuming the rads and blocks aren't all gunged up...
 
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Just a few worlds for those who are not into Watercooling Systems, why should i run my CPU at 50c/60c or even more when it could run at 40c/35c or less?
This demonstrates a common misconception about cooling. This is implying it is better to run at 40°C than 50°C. That is totally wrong!!!!!!!!

Cooler temps does NOT automatically mean better!

It is critically important to keep our CPUs properly cooled. But that IN NO WAY means cooler is better. Electronics are designed to operate within a "normal temperature range". As long as they are kept comfortably within that range, then all is good.

Running at 40°C instead of 50° or even 60°C does NOT improve performance, increase stability, or extend the expected lifespan of the components.

And for the record, one of the biggest problems with inexperienced implementers of water cooling is negligence and ignorance. Many are ignorant of the fact heat generating and heat sensitive components are mounted surrounding the CPU socket so they too can take advantage of the OEM cooler's air flow patterns. Consequently they are often negligent when they implement water cooling because they often neglect those heat sensitive components and fail to compensate with increased case air flow.

the risk of a leak is always at the corner
Not just the risk of leaks spewing liquids all over your electronics. But if there is a leak, that mean air can get into the system. And when that happens, not only is cooling efficiency decreased, but the risk of hazardous mold can develop in the system too. This is less likely with factory made AiO closed loop system, but not out of the realm of possibility. And frankly, buying a factory made AiO system takes all the fun and challenge out of it anyway. Implementing water cooling is too easy these days. Oh well.

Too many times have I seen alternative cooling implementers be religiously disciplined to ensure these systems are working perfectly - for the first year or so. But then, after weeks and months of flawless service, what happens? Just when inspections of the aging systems need to increase because of age, inspections become fewer and farther between because the users get bored and complacent. :( Then fittings work loose, hoses become brittle and crack, impellers bind and trouble ensues.

I am not against alternative cooling. I am just against the mis-information (much coming from the maker's marketing weenies) spewed about them.

The fact remains, properly configured case cooling and a decent air cooler (and yes, even OEM coolers) are plenty good in most scenarios - even those involving mild to moderate overclocking.
 
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If your worried about getting it wet then you live in fear lolz! Only leak ive ever had was on a thermaltake water block.
But if you know How to test without power to the computer(half a brain) then your ok after leak testing......
 
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I once heard or read that for every 10c cooler an electronic part works at it's lifetime will be doubled not sure if it's true or not.
 
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