Is Phenom II x4 capable of running 64bit VMware virtual machine ?

[r9]

I have recently upgraded to AthlonII x3 that I unlocked to Phenom II x4 with L3 enabled.
And I started downloading VMware server while I was waiting for download to compete I have downloaded and started program from vmware site for checking if your cpu is capable of running 64bit virtual machines. The test come out like this

And I`m almost sure that should be capable of running 64bit guest OS.
Any thoughts ?

 

[twicksisted]

I have recently upgraded to AthlonII x3 that I unlocked to Phenom II x4 with L3 enabled.
And I started downloading VMware server while I was waiting for download to compete I have downloaded and started program from vmware site for checking if your cpu is capable of running 64bit virtual machines. The test come out like this http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34687&stc=1&d=1270211287
And I`m almost sure that should be capable of running 64bit guest OS.
Any thoughts ?

im not familiar with AMD chips but you do have the option of turning virtulisation on and off in the bios for intel 64bit chips that support it... perhaps your AMD equivalent setting is set to off in your bios?

 

[Phxprovost]

im not familiar with AMD chips but you do have the option of turning virtulisation on and off in the bios for intel 64bit chips that support it... perhaps your AMD equivalent setting is set to off in your bios?

sounds about right

 

[r9]

im not familiar with AMD chips but you do have the option of turning virtulisation on and off in the bios for intel 64bit chips that support it... perhaps your AMD equivalent setting is set to off in your bios?

I`m going to check that now. Even though I highly doubt it.

 

[brandonwh64]

i ran VMware on my 965BE so it should work for that CPU

 

[r9]

I just checked in BIOS and there is option SVM secure virtual machine which is enabled. I`m going to try installing one and see if the VMserver would allow me.

At the moment I can think only at one reason why could I have this problem. Before I upgraded to current setup I did fresh OS install then I just put the new system in and the winodows 7 just auto installed drivers for the new setup and that was it. My previous CPU was E5200 which was very anti VM.

 

[HolyCow02]

As long as your host operating system is 64-bit, you will be able to run a 64-bit VM. You cannot run a 64-bit VM on a 32-bit machine because the the 32-bit OS cannot understand 64-bit instructions.

running 64-bit on 32-bit is like trying to translate spanish to english when you only understand russian. it doesn't work.

I see you are running a 64-bit version of Win 7, so you might just need to reinstall VMware

 

[newtekie1]

As long as your host operating system is 64-bit, you will be able to run a 64-bit VM. You cannot run a 64-bit VM on a 32-bit machine because the the 32-bit OS cannot understand 64-bit instructions.

running 64-bit on 32-bit is like trying to translate spanish to english when you only understand russian. it doesn't work.

I see you are running a 64-bit version of Win 7, so you might just need to reinstall VMware

It isn't just a matter of the host OS being 64-bit, though that is part of the requirements, Virtualization must also be enabled and working.

 

[suraswami]

It might be either that Virtualization not enabled in bios or when the setup was moved from non-vt to a VT enabled one W7 didn't register it properly. Probably reinstall all the mobo drivers or best would be reinstall of W7.

what version of W7 x64 you are running?

 

[aj28]

Holy is right in that you need to be running a 64-bit host OS. Having virtualization on in the BIOS isn't necessarily required in a lot of cases, as you can do virtualization through software as well. What enabling hardware support will do (with virtualization apps that support it) is make the process a heck of a lot faster.

I know the new version of VirtualPC in Windows 7 requires hardware support, but older versions did not and Sun's VirtualBox does not, though they both support it as an option. I am not sure whether or not VMware explicitly requires the feature, but if you have it (and you do), you might as well have it on.

 

[r9]

It might be either that Virtualization not enabled in bios or when the setup was moved from non-vt to a VT enabled one W7 didn't register it properly. Probably reinstall all the mobo drivers or best would be reinstall of W7.

what version of W7 x64 you are running?

Ultimate x64.

 

[HalfAHertz]

Try virtualbox

 

[suraswami]

Try virtualbox

Virtualbox is not even close. VMWare is the best. Did you install the latest VMWare? did you check if there are any patches?

 

[HalfAHertz]

Um have you tried the latest version? It is pretty solid and now there's opengl 3d and hw accelerated flash

 

[newtekie1]

Holy is right in that you need to be running a 64-bit host OS. Having virtualization on in the BIOS isn't necessarily required in a lot of cases, as you can do virtualization through software as well. What enabling hardware support will do (with virtualization apps that support it) is make the process a heck of a lot faster.

I know the new version of VirtualPC in Windows 7 requires hardware support, but older versions did not and Sun's VirtualBox does not, though they both support it as an option. I am not sure whether or not VMware explicitly requires the feature, but if you have it (and you do), you might as well have it on.

This is true if you are running a 32-bit guest os, however even with VMWare, virtualization is required to run a 64-bit guest os.

Trust me, I've tried getting VMWare to run a 64-bit guest OS without virtualization, it just won't do it. I fought the exact same problem on my Pentium D 830. The processor is 64-bit, the OS is 64-bit(Win7 Pro x64), but VMWare simply would not run a 64-bit guest OS.

Here is a VMware KB article for diagnosing this problem: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/mi...nguage=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1006190
Notice step 2 is to make sure Virtualization is enabled.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

try setting you cpu back to a tri core

I have a PII 555 that is perfectly stable in a 32 bit OS as a x4 but fails quickly under 64bit.

Your 4th core probably just isn't stable enough for VM

 

[r9]

Just to sum up. The host OS is Win7 64bit and the guest Ubuntu server 64bit installed just fine. It is just the program they made for checking compatibility sucks thats all.

 

[tal.aloni]

r9 is correct,
The program (VMware-guest64check-5.5.0-18463.exe) simply check the Family, Extended Family and Extended Model that are reported by the CPU against values that were known to support BT64 (Binary Translation) when the program was written. (Which was before AMD released the Phenom CPU).

The problem is not limited to the check utility, VMWare Server 1.x will refuse to run x64 guests with some of those newer CPUs, because their family / model values are not known to support BT64. (in practice they all support BT64)

If you need a solution to this problem, see here:
http://iknowu.dnsalias.com/files/public/vmware/VMWare-Server-v1-CPU-Detection-Fix.htm

 

[MxPhenom 216]

You also need to enable No execute Bit memory in the bios for VMs to be provisioned and worked.

 

[INSTG8R]

The irony of the whole thing is x64 is AMD's "baby" Odd it would need so much "hoop jumping" to get an x64 VM running.

 

[Jstn7477]

Are you sure it is not a problem caused by unlocking the chip? Tried returning it to a stock 3 core?