Is the i5 11400F worth it with Hyper 212 class coolers ? Should I upgrade?

[Selaya]

What about something like a 10400F or 10700F, how much would that cost (vs 11400F)?

 

[Bomby569]

What about something like a 10400F or 10700F, how much would that cost (vs 11400F)?

aren't you on the internet?

 

[Selaya]

yes but i am not aware of all the particulars of all kinds of local markets

 

[8tyone]

What about something like a 10400F or 10700F, how much would that cost (vs 11400F)?

Cost difference between 11400 and 10400 is just ~7.5 USD while between 11400 and 10700 is ~146.48 USD.

 

[Selaya]

I see.
What's your intended purpose of your build like, what are you all planning to do w/ it?
If it's just gaming basically I'd honestly go w/ the 10400F since its got a much better performance-per-watt than the 11400F

EDIT: Ignore what I said, I misread the power consumption chart, the 11400F tops out at like 135W not 200W
and 135W @14nm the 212 can handle

 

[Tetras]

The i5 11400F was locked at 65W in the video, doesn't matter right as i5 11600K should heat up more than the 11400?

EDIT: I watched the video again something is wrong i5 11600K and i5 11400F are drawing way too less power. In tpu review 11400 alone goes past 200W!

[..snip]

The power consumption charts in most reviews are based on multi-threaded load (often a kind of worse case load), but the gaming results are usually way lower and most semi-decent air coolers will be fine with a 6-core during game load, since the rest of the system will be loud too. But, if you're planning on pinning the CPU at 100% in multi-threaded load for long periods, do I want an air cooler intended for 65-watt operation with a power-unlocked rocket lake CPU? Nooooo, I do not.

That said, even the 11400 uses more power than the 10400 when gaming (unlocked or not).

 

[8tyone]

I see.
What's your intended purpose of your build like, what are you all planning to do w/ it?
If it's just gaming basically I'd honestly go w/ the 10400F since its got a much better performance-per-watt than the 11400F

In addition to gaming I will run Android Studio, some game development using LibGdx (might learn later), Photoshop, Blender (might learn later), some AI learning if Android Studio project requires it. I havent upgraded in 7 years, only bought rx 580 because gtx 970 died in 2018.

But, if you're planning on pinning the CPU at 100% in multi-threaded load for long periods, do I want an air cooler intended for 65-watt operation with a power-unlocked rocket lake CPU? Nooooo, I do not.

Not all the way unlocked but only to 95W.

 

[Tetras]

Not all the way unlocked but only to 95W.

Then I would buy a decent air cooler, most budget air coolers are only good for light loads with 6 core CPUs (especially rocket lake), they're not suitable for being pinned to 100% for long periods.

 

[Selaya]

Looks like you misread the chart asw:

Note that the 11400F stock (as a 65W part)'s reported as 130W here, so half of it (65W)'s going to the remainder of the system (GPU, Board, SSD et cetera). At full load w/o power limit it reports 201-214W. Subtracting 65W from each will give us 135W-150W. That's still within the realm of the reasonable for a 212.

 

[QuietBob]

In my testing total power consumption of an 11400 system (limits removed, Gear 1@1800, 1x SATA SSD, no GPU) peaked at 171w during a 30" Cinebench R23 run. HWinfo showed 96w max CPU package power.

I guess OP's cooler should be able to handle it temperature-wise.

 

[8tyone]

In my testing total power consumption of an 11400 system (limits removed, Gear 1@1800, 1x SATA SSD, no GPU) peaked at 171w during a 30" Cinebench R23 run. HWinfo showed 96w max CPU package power.

I guess OP's cooler should be able to handle it temperature-wise.

Yes its the temp I am worried about at unlocked powers. Without unlocked power 11400 doesnt make sense (for me atleast).

 

[docnorth]

Deadend platform

Like many of us, like me and you too, the OP doesn’t seem to change CPU’s every 2-3 years. Sure a 12400 (or a 5600x) would be much more powerful and cooler, but also more than 50% pricier combined with the board.

 

[8tyone]

I seem to have gotten answer to most of my questions, more or less. Thank you everyone.

 

[bug]

Yes you are correct. According to you will the Hyper 212 be enough for the i5 11400F if it was unlocked (not fully) but to 95W? Wizzard used an NH-U14S and got 72C gear 1 max power limit, he also says 95W is huge improvement too vs. the locked 65W power limit.

The CPU will only boost as long as the cooler can deal with the additional heat. If the cooler is not up to the task, the CPU will just dial it back. That said a 212 should handle 95W no problem.