Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD

[krevety]

v0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Drive : 0(NVME)
Driver : W10(0:3)
Model : KINGSTON SNV2S4000G
Fw : ELFK1N.1
HMB : 65536 - 65536 KB
Size : 3815447 MB [4000.8 GB]
LBA Size: 512
AdminCmd: 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x06 0x08 0x09 0x0A 0x0C 0x10 0x11 0x14 0x80 0x81 0x82 0x84 0xC0 0xC1 0xC2 0xD0 0xD1 0xD2 0xE0 0xE1 0xE2
I/O Cmd : 0x00 0x01 0x02 0x04 0x05 0x09
Firmware lock supported [03 01] [P101] [0000]
Drive unlocked [03 03]
F/W : ELFK1N.1
P/N : 9786099
Bank00: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank01: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank02: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank03: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank04: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank05: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank06: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank07: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank08: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank09: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank10: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank11: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank12: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank13: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank14: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Bank15: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die
Controller : PS5021-E21
CPU Clk : 980
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 10
Die per CE : 2
Block per CE : 12888
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
PMIC Type : PS6103
PE Cycle Limit: 50000/3000
SLC cache : 0x100000/0x60000

got mine 4TB yay!

 

[GabrielLP14]

got mine 4TB yay!

Nice, let us know your Flash ID Report when it arrives

 

[krevety]

And that would be what in particular? (I am new here )
Cheers

 

[GabrielLP14]

And that would be what in particular? (I am new here )
Cheers

It's an exe file that allows you to see exactly which controller and which NAND Flash dies your SSD is using without having to remove stickers or doing anything that might void Warranty.
just google Flash ID SSDs and you'll see some photos i'll send you a link in the future when you get the drive.

 

[krevety]

If you mean "Phison nvme flash id2" then the output is in the original quote I have provided.
I have already one installed in my desktop pc.

 

[GabrielLP14]

If you mean "Phison nvme flash id2" then the output is in the original quote I have provided.
I have already one installed in my desktop pc.

Yes that's the tools, oh you did? i didn't see it sorry, can you print screen it again if it's not a trouble. If it has different components, i'll catalog in our database

 

[krevety]

Nevertheless, the speed of mine SNV2S/4000G is similar to QLC drives, see the sustained write speed after cache runs out. And SLC cache recovery is very slow if there is.
(Please note that the read speed is impaired by using only Gen3x2 slot).

 

[FoolishAvocado]

I have an opportunity to get 1TB version of Kingston NV2 for 40 Euros instead of buying 500GB version of Samsung 980 or WD Blue SN570 for 37 Euros. Is it worth it to risk it and get the Kingston not knowing which controller is on it and if it's TLC or QLC version? Thanks.

 

[GabrielLP14]

I have an opportunity to get 1TB version of Kingston NV2 for 40 Euros instead of buying 500GB version of Samsung 980 or WD Blue SN570 for 37 Euros. Is it worth it to risk it and get the Kingston not knowing which controller is on it and if it's TLC or QLC version? Thanks.

IMO, from what i've seen, like dozens of NV2's, most 500GB and 250GB are TLC, there might be QLC... I don't know for certain. But those QLC versions are most frequent on 1TB and 2TB, specially on 2TB

 

[krevety]

I have an opportunity to get 1TB version of Kingston NV2 for 40 Euros instead of buying 500GB version of Samsung 980 or WD Blue SN570 for 37 Euros. Is it worth it to risk it and get the Kingston not knowing which controller is on it and if it's TLC or QLC version? Thanks.

You can do the math. Even if you get an 1TB QLC drive you usually get 250GB in SLC mode. With the 500GB TLC drive it will be 167GB in SLC mode. This will get you probably the advertised speeds and the rest will depend on the actual drive performance, recovery time etc. In this case they are all low-tier DRAM-less drives with no significant performace difference.
So in my opinion the larger capacity is always worth, you have 50% bigger SLC cache and double the capacity if need be. That is a no-brainer to me.

 

[Feenschubser]

My 4TB from Amazon for 210€ are arrived.
015.A02G

v0.382a
OS: 10.0 build 22621
Drive : 0(NVME)
Driver : W10(0:3)
Model : KINGSTON SNV2S4000G
Fw : ELFK1N.1
HMB : 65536 - 65536 KB
Size : 3815447 MB [4000.8 GB]
LBA Size: 512

Firmware lock supported [03 01] [P101] [0000]
Drive unlocked [03 03]
F/W : ELFK1N.1

Bank00: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die

Controller : PS5021-E21
CPU Clk : 980
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 10
Die per CE : 2
Block per CE : 12888
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
PMIC Type : PS6103
PE Cycle Limit: 50000/3000
SLC cache : 0x100000/0x60000

You can see the E21 Controller right upper Corner.
SSD is only one Sided

Thanks sir for the list with tlc, qlc, tw, cn

This Guy has a 006.A00G from China with 4TB
E21 and BiCS5 TLC
And a nice list from Firmware and Controller on NV2

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2508280&extra=page=1&mobile=no

and a Benchmark with Phision Driver 1.5.0 a little bit better as the stock nvme from windows.

 

[GabrielLP14]

My 4TB from Amazon for 210€ are arrived.
015.A02G

v0.382a
OS: 10.0 build 22621
Drive : 0(NVME)
Driver : W10(0:3)
Model : KINGSTON SNV2S4000G
Fw : ELFK1N.1
HMB : 65536 - 65536 KB
Size : 3815447 MB [4000.8 GB]
LBA Size: 512

Firmware lock supported [03 01] [P101] [0000]
Drive unlocked [03 03]
F/W : ELFK1N.1

Bank00: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die

Controller : PS5021-E21
CPU Clk : 980
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 10
Die per CE : 2
Block per CE : 12888
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
PMIC Type : PS6103
PE Cycle Limit: 50000/3000
SLC cache : 0x100000/0x60000

You can see the E21 Controller right upper Corner.
SSD is only one Sided

Thanks sir for the list with tlc, qlc, tw, cn

This Guy has a 006.A00G from China with 4TB
E21 and BiCS5 TLC
And a nice list from Firmware and Controller on NV2

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2508280&extra=page=1&mobile=no

and a Benchmark with Phision Driver 1.5.0 a little bit better as the stock nvme from windows.

Thanks i'll add it to the DB

 

[W1K23]

My 4TB from Amazon for 210€ are arrived.
015.A02G

v0.382a
OS: 10.0 build 22621
Drive : 0(NVME)
Driver : W10(0:3)
Model : KINGSTON SNV2S4000G
Fw : ELFK1N.1
HMB : 65536 - 65536 KB
Size : 3815447 MB [4000.8 GB]
LBA Size: 512

Firmware lock supported [03 01] [P101] [0000]
Drive unlocked [03 03]
F/W : ELFK1N.1

Bank00: 0x98,0x49,0x99,0x3,0x7a,0xe4,0x8,0x16 - Toshiba 112L BiCS5 TLC 16k 2048Gb/CE 1024Gb/die 2Plane/die

Controller : PS5021-E21
CPU Clk : 980
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 10
Die per CE : 2
Block per CE : 12888
Page per Block: 1344
Bit Per Cell : 3(TLC)
PMIC Type : PS6103
PE Cycle Limit: 50000/3000
SLC cache : 0x100000/0x60000

You can see the E21 Controller right upper Corner.
SSD is only one Sided

Thanks sir for the list with tlc, qlc, tw, cn

This Guy has a 006.A00G from China with 4TB
E21 and BiCS5 TLC
And a nice list from Firmware and Controller on NV2

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2508280&extra=page=1&mobile=no

and a Benchmark with Phision Driver 1.5.0 a little bit better as the stock nvme from windows.

Wow, Thanks for the list! I hope I got the answer to my tlc / qlc question. #166
(004.A00G - ??? - TW)
The FW version of my SSD is SBI02102.
On the list: SBI0210x：SM2267XT + KIOXIA 112L TLC 512Gbit 2-Plane (500GB/1TB)

 

[Feenschubser]

Wow, Thanks for the list! I hope I got the answer to my tlc / qlc question. #166
(004.A00G - ??? - TW)
The FW version of my SSD is SBI02102.
On the list: SBI0210x：SM2267XT + KIOXIA 112L TLC 512Gbit 2-Plane (500GB/1TB)

If you want check ist self:
Download http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/ the phison_nvme_flash_id2 tool i think.
Start it and select your SSD to see.

But on the Picture i think the list is right you have the SM2267XT.

 

[kapone32]

I could not help it. $279.99 Canadian for 4TB of NVME is sweet. If the price holds I will buy another one when I get paid to have a 8TB NVME RAID 0 array for less than $600. For me these are plenty fast even if they are not the fastest in class.

 

[W1K23]

If you want check ist self:
Download http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/ the phison_nvme_flash_id2 tool i think.
Start it and select your SSD to see.

But on the Picture i think the list is right you have the SM2267XT.

phison_nvme_flash_id2-history
v0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Unknown drive interface - exit!

 

[krevety]

phison_nvme_flash_id2-history
v0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Unknown drive interface - exit!

for Silicon Motion Controller you should use "SMI nvme flash id"

 

[W1K23]

for Silicon Motion Controller you should use "SMI nvme flash id"

SMI nvme flash id was the first one I tried.
#166
"Unfortunately the NVME SSD flash id (Ochkin Vadim) software doesn't work (Win10, incompatible nvme driver), not even in safe mode."

 

[krevety]

And according to AS SSD, what driver do you use? I believe stornvme is regular Microsoft driver, or iaStorA is Intel driver which you may or may not have installed.

 

[W1K23]

And according to AS SSD, what driver do you use? I believe stornvme is regular Microsoft driver, or iaStorA is Intel driver which you may or may not have installed.

iaStorAC
Storage Contorllers in Device Manager: Intel(R) Chipset SATA/PCIe RST Premium Controller
Disk drives - NVMe KINGSTON.....: Microsoft 10.0.19.041.1865
(My Notebook is a Dell Latitude 7490.)

 

[krevety]

Well, maybe switching to another driver helps. Either generic Microsoft, or maybe SMI nvme drivers.
In my case, Phison utility works with both microsoft or phison driver in windows 10.
Anyways, there is a review of your 004.A00G drive

and it says SM2267XT + Kioxia TLC

 

[Feenschubser]

phison_nvme_flash_id2-history
v0.384a
OS: 10.0 build 19045
Unknown drive interface - exit!

Sorry i have a blackout smi tool is right.

 

[GabrielLP14]

Well, maybe switching to another driver helps. Either generic Microsoft, or maybe SMI nvme drivers.
In my case, Phison utility works with both microsoft or phison driver in windows 10.
Anyways, there is a review of your 004.A00G drive

and it says SM2267XT + Kioxia TLC

Oh thats my review heheh, yeah that revision is using Kioxia BiCS5 112-Layer 512Gb dies alongside Silicon Motion SM2267XT controllers

 

[vicentemax]

Me registré para poder compartir la unidad nv2 de 2 Tb que compré.

Usaré el disco para el sistema y para instalar juegos.

Espero hacer algunas pruebas de disco en las próximas horas.

Compré el disco en Pc Componentes en España este 8 de mayo.

El disco está en oferta por 84€, envío gratis.

En las pruebas sintéticas, todo parece estar bien.

Al copiar archivos grandes de otro ssd el rendimiento es malo.

Comience copiando a 1,83 TB/s.
Cuando llegas a escribir 200 GB, la velocidad cae entre 500 y 200 GB/s. La velocidad de escritura sube y baja.

Cuando llegas a escribir 800GB la velocidad cae entre 160 y 30 GB/s.
La velocidad de escritura sube y baja.
A veces, la velocidad de escritura cae a 0 GB de transferencia.

Para completar la copia de los archivos de 1.913Tb se necesitan 2 horas y 50 minutos.

¿Es este el funcionamiento normal del ssd?
Parece un ssd muy lento en la escritura.

 

[Feenschubser]

I've signed up to be able to share the 2Tb nv2 drive I bought.

I will use the disk for the system and to install games.

I hope to do some disk tests in the next few hours.

I bought the disc at Pc Componentes in Spain this May 8th.

The disc is on sale for €84, free shipping.

In the synthetic tests, everything seems to be fine.

When copying large files from another ssd the performance is bad.

Start by copying to 1.83 TB/s.
When you get to write 200GB the speed drops between 500 and 200GB/s. The write speed goes up and down.

When you get to write 800GB the speed drops between 160 and 30 GB/s.
The writing speed goes up and down.
Sometimes the write speed drops to 0GB transfer.

To complete the copy of the 1.913Tb files it takes 2 hours 50 minutes.

Is this the normal operation of the ssd?
It seems like a very slow ssd in writing.

You transfer Chia Plots.
I think the e21 dont like these File Type.
you have:
ELFK1N.x：E21T + KIOXIA 112L TLC 1Tbit 2-Plane (1TB/2TB/4TB)

Check Temperatures with Hwmonitor or other tools.
I use phision nvme 1.5.0 Driver, it works a little bit better.