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KTC OLED G27P6

Inle

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The KTC OLED G27P6 is among the least expensive 27-inch 240 Hz OLED gaming monitors on the market. It offers superb gaming performance and several useful extras, such as an integrated KVM switch and a USB-C DP Alt Mode port with 65 W Power Delivery.

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"Chi-Fi comes to OLED" was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this. Not exactly bad for the price.

In Brazil, Pichau (one of the largest hardware stores in our country) sells a new OLED monitor that I presume uses the same LG Display panel under their in-house Cepheus white label at a similar price point. It's strikingly similar to this monitor in a way.

You should see if you can can get them to sample you an unit. They have shipped their in house products to TPU before (Aris reviewed their first Nidus power supply here).
 
"Chi-Fi comes to OLED" was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this. Not exactly bad for the price.

In Brazil, Pichau (one of the largest hardware stores in our country) sells a new OLED monitor that I presume uses the same LG Display panel under their in-house Cepheus white label at a similar price point. It's strikingly similar to this monitor in a way.

You should see if you can can get them to sample you an unit. They have shipped their in house products to TPU before (Aris reviewed their first Nidus power supply here).

Interesting, thanks for letting me know. My location could be an issue (I'm based in Croatia), but it's worth giving it a try. I do have more 27" 240 Hz OLED reviews in the works, they're a fairly risk-free choice for manufacturers, since LG.Display provides the panel and anti-burn-in technology, so it's no wonder more and more brands are releasing their versions of it. It's soon going to come down to who offers theirs at a better price (KTC currently wins, followed by AOC), and with a more comprehensive warranty (Corsair's currently the only one covering burn-in with theirs).

To everyone who read my review before today, there was a small but potentially important update to it:

I'm told by the company that ABL can be turned off by switching the monitor to the so-called Reading Mode, but this is a feature apparently reserved for US versions of the monitor. As I reviewed the EU model, I can't comment on the characteristics of the Reading Mode or what ABL behaves like when Reading Mode is activated. I find it bizarre that such feature would be region-specific, but it is what it is.
 
Can we dedicate a separate section dedicated to OLED specific features like ABL, Pixel Cleaning, pixel shift etc?
 
no 5 year burn in warranty?
no interest.
 
Other than Dell, I dont recall even Samsung or LG or any other manufacturers offer burn-in Warranty on OLED monitors.
and that's one of many reason why i'll NEVER buy an OLED.
 
$800? Hard Pass.

Prices are way to high for them, especially for the risk involved.
 
and that's one of many reason why i'll NEVER buy an OLED.
CRTs were worse than OLED for Burn-in and compared to OLED far less development was put in towards mitigating those issues and still people used CRTs for longest amount of time. Screen savers were there for that exact reason and they worked. Also checked after initial comment and it seems like LG is offering 2 year Burn-in warranty on their OLED monitors but it came after uproar from users.
 
All I know is that some cat gave me a bunch of crap on this forum recently for stating this exact thing would happen shortly when another cat asked about the current $1000 models.

Now that he can visually see it in a review, that guy will hopefully see this and understand, while others can begin to prepare for such an upgrade if it's potentially in their somewhat immediate future.

It's not even BF (where I thought some models may make their presence known) or after the first of the year (where many companies have stated they will have similar/better models; likely waiting to show them off at CES). More choice/value is coming to this market, and that is now provably evident.

When the competition is straight up a grand, ~$775-800 is a nice first step.

As I've said before, I'd *personally* wait until we see 32/34/39 tvs/monitors hit the market (or 1440p/360hz 27'' if that's potentially your thing or even if not) as then we will begin to have some kind of price scaling between them and TVs (in which a 42 is currently $1000) as markets converge (give or take 1440/4k and 240hz+ to some extent), but it's always each potential customer's prerogative. Just understand the 27/240 niche is about to become a whole lot less niche due to larger/superior options, as well as commoditization (I know that word triggers some people, but it's true) and therefore demand much less of a premium.

You see, the initial market is like the Arya. Eventually we will get an Ananda. Then a Sundara. Okay, maybe not a Sundara, but maybe a XS or price drops on older models. Coming from a guy that bought a Deva.

While 1440p/240hz OLED is certainly nice (especially for those that can't abide a larger size), I also think many people are going to find that scaling to 4k (for a tv or monitor) is going to be the norm before too long; balanced (1253p DLSS/1270p FSR) and quality (1440p) upscaling are going to rule the enthusiast roost vs native 1440p (or 960p upscaled). It's just going to over-all be better IQ and allow people more managable 'good' options, granted I understand there are some people whom prefer super high framerate and will pay the (imo absurd) premium to stay there. That is why you see the big push with DLSS/FSR to get out in front of it. I think the prices of these types of displays will follow hand-in-hand with GPUs to drive them, which one can only hope cards greater than 7800xt/4070ti fall in price below ~$700/800. That, again, is what I believe is the point of Navi 4 and Battle Mage.

I'm curious how quickly we'll see those potential matchings drop potentially by a third or even half (say a $600 Navi 4 + ~$500-700 27/32+ OLED vs the current option of something like a $1200 4080 and $1000 LG/ASUS swift). It will probably be much quicker than most people think, if they think about it at all. Already you can imagine a soon-to-be priced-dropped 7900xt(x) and this (type of) monitor being a better value option than what came before.

A market shift is coming, 'tis but the beginning. Good on this company for leading the charge, and TPU for making this (currently lesser-known) option more visable to that guy the uninformed.

I, for one, welcome the second coming of the Korean 1440p/120 revolution, whatever your preferred flavor of size/rez/fr.
 
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Awesome.

This isn't for me but I'm still excited to see decent quality gaming OLED coming down in price. 240fps 1440p is a lot to ask from any connected PC, but if this thing has black frame insertion, 120Hz with black frame insertion would be the holy grail for gaming. 120Hz buttery smoothness, near-zero pixel blur, and strobing backlighting to dramatically cut back on the sample-and-hold blur.

@Inle, thanks for the review - do you know if this monitor has any BFI/motion clarity features?
 
This isn't cheap. $690 is already possible for the Asus and LG monitor for example.

Would like to see a new 27" OLED monitor introduced at $650 USD MSRP to beat all the discounts and open boxes out there.
 
Man, not being able to turn off ABL is such a dealbreaker to me.
Considering it's a no-name Chinese brand you can also forget about any FW updates so you bet this is what it's going to be.

Cheapest equal monitors you can get are ~800 euros, this one goes for 675 on Geekbuying from Poland.
If it was available for that price at local retailers it would be a really good deal... For ones that don't mind the ABL...
 
@Inle, thanks for the review - do you know if this monitor has any BFI/motion clarity features?

No BFI, but the motion clarity is excellent "as is".
 
No BFI, but the motion clarity is excellent "as is".
I'm sure it is. I have 120Hz OLED already, it's just that OLED's 0ms pixel response does little to combat sample-and-hold blur. I honestly prefer the backlight strobing of my Odyssey G7 over the OLED for any game that's mostly panning a top-down view (Diablo4, PoE, Factorio etc).

Yes, the higher the framerate, the less of an issue S&H blur is - but very few AAA games are going to run at 1440p 240fps these days. Hell, some of the half-baked AAA releases this year struggle to hit triple digits on an i9 and 4090 and I have neither of those things.

I wonder why most OLEDs don't have strobing backlights. They can definitely reach the brightness required for it now, and inserting a black frame isn't exactly difficult to do in software as it requires basically no processing.
 
I'm sure it is. I have 120Hz OLED already, it's just that OLED's 0ms pixel response does little to combat sample-and-hold blur. I honestly prefer the backlight strobing of my Odyssey G7 over the OLED for any game that's mostly panning a top-down view (Diablo4, PoE, Factorio etc).

Yes, the higher the framerate, the less of an issue S&H blur is - but very few AAA games are going to run at 1440p 240fps these days. Hell, some of the half-baked AAA releases this year struggle to hit triple digits on an i9 and 4090 and I have neither of those things.

I wonder why most OLEDs don't have strobing backlights. They can definitely reach the brightness required for it now, and inserting a black frame isn't exactly difficult to do in software as it requires basically no processing.
This actually makes me curious if a 240Hz with black frame insertions, so effectively 120fps, would feel better than 240fps.
 
This actually makes me curious if a 240Hz with black frame insertions, so effectively 120fps, would feel better than 240fps.
Based on my experience with the Odyssey, no.

240 actual frames a second is better than 120 fps with BFI, but that's only true for games that can generate 240 fps.
If your game is only running at 120fps, you absolutely want black frame insertion for 4.2ms frames every 2/240th of a second, rather than 8.3ms frames every 1/120th of a second.

There is a small, but noticeable fluidity improvement going above 120 fps, though I think we're well into diminishing returns at that point. However, there's a massive motion clarity benefit to reducing the time any frame is shown. Basically, if you compare 120 fps @ 120Hz+BFI to some (VRR) framerate without BFI, there comes a point where the increased information/fluidity of additional frames outweighs the benefit of shortest possible 4.2ms frame duration you get with 120Hz+BFI. I can't say for sure what that threshold is, but maybe at 180-200Hz I feel like having more frames is the better result than having the shortest possible frames - plus you regain brightness by disabling BFI so there's an additional factor to consider if you game in a brightly-lit environment.

The issue of course, is that even 180 fps is impossible in many games. So do you change refresh rate per game depending on what you're playing to occasionally take advantage of the >180 fps games or do you stick to 120Hz with BFI and just have one setting that looks great for everything, with a (relatively) easy framerate target to meet? I can't answer that for you, but I definitely can't be bothered to change between 240Hz VRR and 120Hz BFI all the damn time.
 
The LG is 729 euro brand new at amazon.de. I think i've seen it even lower.
 
hmmmmm what suprizes me with oled monitors is way back 5-6 years these were promised to have low power consumption, and low input lag, among other things.

I mean it's not awful, but 20+watts at 0 brightness seems high.

Good to see oled tech finally coming to monitors.

edit - had to check out pcpartpicker(US), actually quite a few choices, but pricing, well it's not cheap..........
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and less choices at less than 35"
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hmmmmm what suprizes me with oled monitors is way back 5-6 years these were promised to have low power consumption, and low input lag, among other things.

I mean it's not awful, but 20+watts at 0 brightness seems high.

Good to see oled tech finally coming to monitors.

edit - had to check out pcpartpicker(US), actually quite a few choices, but pricing, well it's not cheap..........
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and less choices at less than 35"
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There are a lot of models but actually very few actual panels. I did a lot of research when I upgraded to OLED a couple of months ago (and my panel just went over 150 hours yesterday, lol, that's how little I have been getting to use it sadly)

1. Basically the whole bunch of 27 inch, 240 Hz models use some OEM variant of LG Display WOLED similar to the one used in the 27GR95QE-B. It's said in some forums this specific monitor has the MLA layer technology that only the supremely gorgeous and equally expensive LG G3 OLED has this year (it's state of the art brightness boosting tech), but I haven't seen the specifications mention the "Brightness Booster Max" anywhere, so it might not have it, I can't confirm. I was going to purchase one, but it's not available in Brazil, and I felt like I wanted something larger so... a sale came and I snagged my 55' G3. Godlike.

2. The 34 inch, 175 Hz models (Odyssey OLED G8, MSI MEG 342C, etc) all use the same Samsung QD-OLED "gen 1" panel that was first seen in the Alienware AW3423DW. Speaking of which, the DWF subvariant is an inferior AMD FreeSync version that caps out at 165 Hz due to the controller used on it, the panel itself is the same. Some people claim it's "better" because FW can be upgraded (this isn't possible in the G-Sync Ultimate DW version), but every issue I ever heard of was on the DWF and everyone I know who has the DW never complained, so...

3. Samsung has a "gen 1.5" QD-OLED on the Odyssey OLED G9 5120*1440 240 Hz super ultrawide of theirs, as far as I know this is the only monitor of its kind right now and comes in a smart (G95SC with Tizen) and dumb (G93SC without Tizen) version, both are identical otherwise, but the G93SC is a little cheaper.
 
Not interested in the product, since it's no name, below 30" and not 4K, but good review.

It also correctly points the subpixel layout problem, something that more and more Youtube "reviewers" just ignore or brush aside as a very small issue affecting few nitpickers.

But I think every OLED review deserves a bigger warning about burn in. It is still an issue, compared to other monitor technologies - it does not matter if the CRT monitors had it to, or vellum books.
 
The Acer model is available brand new from BandHPhoto right now for $630 USD as there is a coupon applied in the cart.

This Chinese model has to be $600 to $650 USD to get any sales. These OLED monitors are way overpriced and in low demand, you see prices crashing everywhere. Nobody buying.
 
Not interested in the product, since it's no name, below 30" and not 4K, but good review.

It also correctly points the subpixel layout problem, something that more and more Youtube "reviewers" just ignore or brush aside as a very small issue affecting few nitpickers.

But I think every OLED review deserves a bigger warning about burn in. It is still an issue, compared to other monitor technologies - it does not matter if the CRT monitors had it to, or vellum books.
Not sure what reviewers you're watching, but I source about everything from HUB and Rtings. HUB is very consistent on mentioning (and warning) this in every review with these panels.
 
The Acer model is available brand new from BandHPhoto right now for $630 USD as there is a coupon applied in the cart.

This Chinese model has to be $600 to $650 USD to get any sales. These OLED monitors are way overpriced and in low demand, you see prices crashing everywhere. Nobody buying.
Yes, but that's $630 street price compared to $1099 MSRP.

Street price isn't MSRP and this KTC OLED will very likely come down in price by similar margins in due time, it's just too new to the market for that at the moment.

Its MSRP is $300 lower than the Acer so it's going to get deeper discounts once all the impatient early-adopters are served and they begin sitting on shelves taking up precious retail space. I wouldn't be surprised to see these at $500 in the new year....
 
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