Lga1700 Broken Pin

[dimis]

Is there a LGA1700 pin map available?
I have a missing pin and i want to know what should i expect.
At the moment It seems that i have lost the m2_cpu connector

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Looks bent up, can you bend it back? it could be touching the other pin too.

 

[eidairaman1]

Looks bent up, can you bend it back? it could be touching the other pin too.
View attachment 238625

Hopefully it wasn't workhardened to the point it breaks when bending back, it looks it though.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Look at the marks on the black plastic below the pin. I wonder what happened?

 

[dimis]

@eidairaman1
Unfortunattely the pin broke after the picture was taken. It was touching another pin indeed. At that point the pc was not booting when memory was added on the second channel. Now that the pin is missing I see that the m.2 drive is not detected when it is pluged in the m2_cpu slot, while it is perfectly working on the other 2 m.2 slots-chipset depended-z690 (I just hope they are equally fast)

@Tigger
Which marks are you refering to? Could it be dust from the camera flash?

To be honest I have no clue what happened. The CPU was placed once and I discovered the problem when I could not boot with 2 memory dimms installed. Then in search for the cause I have removed the CPU just to find out about the bent pins.
While it seems to be my fault, I consider myself experienced (I am building PCs since 1996) and I have never faced a situation like this.

I am still wondering though if the missing pin relates to other functions except the m2 missing slot.

Regards

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Look at the edge of the black. it is square all the way around, except where the marks are. Maybe it is just dust.

 

[dimis]

I've seen them earlier. I dont know how did this even happen. Could it be from factory (dont think so).
The point is that the mobo was refused warranty repair, so at the moment i have to live with it.
Do you know where i can find a pin assigment map so as to know what are these pins responsible. At this section and at first row i have seen on older sockets that the pins were marked vcc but could this be the case? Also if this was vcc then why di i lose the m2_cpu slot?

 

[Keullo-e]

Didn't find the pinout of LGA 1700 so it's hard to say which is that pin's purpose. If it would've been vcc/ground it wouldn't probably affected at all.

Does everything else work though?

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

C-could it b-be?! Are you from U.S. and bought that from Newegg perchance?

 

[dimis]

I am thinking the same, if it was vcc it would not matter probably.
But if it affects m2 slot does it mean that it could affect other pcie lanes?

No I leave in Greece and the official reseller is InfoQuest which represents the worst case scenario in terms of service and warranty. ( My wife used to work there 15 years ago....)

 

[Bones]

If they have refused to fix it I guess you'll have to do it.

Tips if you decide to tackle this yourself:
Big thing is to take your time while doing the work because there is no time limit, trying to just bend it back will probrably result in the pin breaking off. Do this slowly, methodically and not all at once to give it a better chance of not breaking while doing the work.
Make sure you have steady hands and take frequent breaks from the work if you must - Again you're not in a race here, simply to get it done.

Also helps if you have a magnifying visor or lens to use so you can see what's there in detail and what's going on while the work progresses. A really small set of tweezers may be required but in truth a simple tool with a straight tip is best (A mini-Scratch awl is great) and if it has a slight bend or "Hook" on the very tip, that helps to grab and manipulate the pin how you want. BTW this hook I speak of doesn't have to be much of a hook, just enough you can see it.

It's work that involves alot of feel as you go so be aware of that.
Be sure to check your progress as you go until the pin is where it needs to be.

No one can guarantee against the pin breaking since it's already been weakened at the point of it's bend but if you do it slowly, you do give it a better chance of surviving the work.
This has been seen here a few times before and is one I fixed myself:

The pic is of an 1151 board but bear in mind with the higher pin count of your board the pins will be even thinner and more fragile with yours.

I'm not the only one here that's done this kind of work before so I request anyone else with tips based on actual experience doing this kind of work to chime in.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep I have one pin snapped off of my x299 apex on the outer upper left side of the socket I bought off ebay
Got a hell of a discount to keep it though
I haven't noticed any ill effects from it not being used.

 

[Chomiq]

Worst case scenario full socket replacement should cost around $100 but you'd have to find out if anyone in Greece does it.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Worst case scenario full socket replacement should cost around $100 but you'd have to find out if anyone in Greece does it.

Could be worth it on a z690 board. Mine was over £300 so if it was mine, i would pay £100 to have it fixed.

 

[dimis]

If they have refused to fix it I guess you'll have to do it.

Tips if you decide to tackle this yourself:
Big thing is to take your time while doing the work because there is no time limit, trying to just bend it back will probrably result in the pin breaking off. Do this slowly, methodically and not all at once to give it a better chance of not breaking while doing the work.
Make sure you have steady hands and take frequent breaks from the work if you must - Again you're not in a race here, simply to get it done.

Also helps if you have a magnifying visor or lens to use so you can see what's there in detail and what's going on while the work progresses. A really small set of tweezers may be required but in truth a simple tool with a straight tip is best (A mini-Scratch awl is great) and if it has a slight bend or "Hook" on the very tip, that helps to grab and manipulate the pin how you want. BTW this hook I speak of doesn't have to be much of a hook, just enough you can see it.

It's work that involves alot of feel as you go so be aware of that.
Be sure to check your progress as you go until the pin is where it needs to be.

No one can guarantee against the pin breaking since it's already been weakened at the point of it's bend but if you do it slowly, you do give it a better chance of surviving the work.
This has been seen here a few times before and is one I fixed myself:
View attachment 238711
The pic is of an 1151 board but bear in mind with the higher pin count of your board the pins will be even thinner and more fragile with yours.

I'm not the only one here that's done this kind of work before so I request anyone else with tips based on actual experience doing this kind of work to chime in.

Unfortunatelly I broke just after I have taken the picture. Tried but it broke as soon as i tried to unfold it.
Thanks for the tips

Hi,
Yep I have one pin snapped off of my x299 apex on the outer upper left side of the socket I bought off ebay
Got a hell of a discount to keep it though
I haven't noticed any ill effects from it not being used.

Lucky you.... I hope mine stays to the dead m2 slot

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I just thought it was coincidental that the marks where near the bent pin.

 

[dimis]

Hi,
Yep I have one pin snapped off of my x299 apex on the outer upper left side of the socket I bought off ebay
Got a hell of a discount to keep it though
I haven't noticed any ill effects from it not being used.

Lucky you.... I hope mine stays to the dead m2 slot

Could be worth it on a z690 board. Mine was over £300 so if it was mine, i would pay £100 to have it fixed.

I believe it worth it, i have paid almost the same. The point is nobody accepts the challenge...

I just thought it was coincidental that the marks where near the bent pin.

It is indeed strange. I have no plans to remove the processor in the near future if it works ok, so i will not know soon (I hope)

Worst case scenario full socket replacement should cost around $100 but you'd have to find out if anyone in Greece does it.

I have found one for 16 usd on aliexpress. The point is nobody wants to try....

 

[Keullo-e]

If it works, I'd leave it as is. You never know if something else stops working after taking the CPU out and putting it back.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah I've benchmarked the hell out of it too

I looked for the socket image but no luck.

I've done away with m.2 use they don't really make that big of a difference from sata except run hot and I hate hot spots plus I dual boot way to much with linux so I like removing any windows ssd's when doing so to keep the garbage linux grub off them.

 

[Keullo-e]

Hi,
Yeah I've benchmarked the hell out of it too

I looked for the socket image but no luck.

I've done away with m.2 use they don't really make that big of a difference from sata except run hot and I hate hot spots plus I dual boot way to much with linux so I like removing any windows ssd's when doing so to keep the garbage linux grub off them.

Personally I'll go for M.2 drive next as I don't want to upgrade from my SATA drives (256GB + 3x480GB on motherboard and 2x128GB via a PCIe controller, I can just remove those) yet.

 

[dimis]

Since I am using it for video rendering I have 2x1TB m.2 980Pro and 2x4tb sata. I have installed heatsings on m.2 since they seem to become hot very easy

I have used prime 95 but not for a long time (maybe 30minutes) and memtest and it seems stable at the moment

 

[ThrashZone]

Personally I'll go for M.2 drive next as I don't want to upgrade from my SATA drives (256GB + 3x480GB on motherboard and 2x128GB via a PCIe controller, I can just remove those) yet.

Hi,
Price wise m.2 and sata are around the same price now
Only difference is speed of course but other is heat, few mother boards have decent heat sinks and location sux for easy removal or install for that matter
Sata runs much cooler

I did get a pci-e m.2 card but water cooling pretty much killed that idea soft hosing in the way.

Don't use P95.
Use blender.

 

[Keullo-e]

Hi,
Price wise m.2 and sata are around the same price now
Only difference is speed of course but other is heat, few mother boards have decent heat sinks and location sux for easy removal or install for that matter
Sata runs much cooler

I did get a pci-e m.2 card but water cooling pretty much killed that idea soft hosing in the way.

Yea, just thinking about an entry-level 1TB drive so I guess that it's not going to run as hot as those high-end PCIe4.0 drives.

 

[dimis]

I am gonna try blender later...
I have seen great increase in sequetial speed with the m2's but I am getting the impression it lags a bit, but it could be just me

 

[ThrashZone]

Yea, just thinking about an entry-level 1TB drive so I guess that it's not going to run as hot as those high-end PCIe4.0 drives.

Hi,
Heat is the cost of speed.
Western digital blacks are looking pretty good price/ speed but still going to be hot on disk loads.

I am gonna try blender later...
I have seen great increase in sequetial speed with the m2's but I am getting the impression it lags a bit, but it could be just me

Here are my favorite cpu or gpu testing
Blender Open Data — blender.org

Classroom is good all that is needed is to install blender
Demo Files — blender.org