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That article made me chuckle, it was so full of BS lol
 
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This sort of stuff truly makes my head hurt. What is to be gained by doing all this ?
 

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They are basically upset because they don't get to call people retards in a profesionally sanctioned environment anymore. Linus was a giant dick and even him thinking about his ways should make others to do the same.

It's like people bragging about how tough their workplace is and how you must be an asshole to survive and how that is fundementally a good thing because "it gets the job done". Sure you don't alwayd have to sweettalk everyone, but "You're wrong, here's why." is better than "You're a retard and shouldn't have kids". A different excuse is how they aren't socially adept or that they are on the autist spectrum, but to that I say bullCRAP. Some people have such issues for realz but a) they can learn and b) there is bo excuse to be insulting in a professional environment, ever, no matter the problem.
 
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They are basically upset because they don't get to call people retards
If only it was just that. Afraid too many political motives are hidden under this trivial banner.
 
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They are basically upset because they don't get to call people retards in a profesionally sanctioned environment anymore. Linus was a giant dick and even him thinking about his ways should make others to do the same.

It's like people bragging about how tough their workplace is and how you must be an asshole to survive and how that is fundementally a good thing because "it gets the job done". Sure you don't alwayd have to sweettalk everyone, but "You're wrong, here's why." is better than "You're a retard and shouldn't have kids". A different excuse is how they aren't socially adept or that they are on the autist spectrum, but to that I say bullCRAP. Some people have such issues for realz but a) they can learn and b) there is bo excuse to be insulting in a professional environment, ever, no matter the problem.
I agree, and that article strikes me as sensationalist. 90% certain nothing will happen except maybe putting a reasonable filter on Linus. This article is designed to rile up certain people, IMO.

If only it was just that. Afraid too many political motives try to hide themselves under this trivial banner.
Unfortunately, it's exactly that a lot more often than you'd believe. Part of why I stay the frick away from facebook.
 
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BS...

Linus will fork the mainline and every normal thinking coder wanting to earn money will team up with him. The security patches will be pouring in Linus maintained fork and the money will start flowing into that fork from companies that use Linux. Simple as that. The smell of money will solve the issues. And money in Linux isn't that overwhelming much.

Linux Foundation with their CoC can simply screw with themselves, depending on their own frigging taste. This is Code space, it has no place for sex, race or whatever... don't mix your daily social shit issues into work and imaginary space meant for machines doing their job, people moan about stuff that's been recompiled to machine code zeros and ones. People cannot often get that. They cannot play those cards everywhere, the world around the globe isn't the same also, especially China, Russia that doesn't suffer from LGBTQIA issues, same for India. It's not accepted at all. It applies also to Eastern EU and Finland. The point is... it has no impact on the most of the world. What's the fuss?

They could spare time fixing damn non working kernel drivers better and ban those idiot devs who accepted them into kernel and sparing my time often blacklisting native kernel drivers and then after each update doing that again and again compile a module... How you cannot become rude and use some strong words on some devs? Linus does that, and I don't care as long it works out and is first of all FREE.
 
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BS...

Linus will fork the mainline and every normal thinking coder wanting to earn money will team up with him. The security patches will be pouring in Linus maintained fork and the money will start flowing into that fork from companies that use Linux. Simple as that. The smell of money will solve the issues. And money in Linux isn't that overwhelming much.

Linux Foundation with their CoC can simply screw with themselves, depending on their own frigging taste. This is Code space, it has no place for sex, race or whatever... don't mix your daily social shit issues into work and imaginary space meant for machines doing their job, people moan about stuff that's been recompiled to machine code zeros and ones. People cannot often get that. They cannot play those cards everywhere, the world around the globe isn't the same also, especially China, Russia that doesn't suffer from LGBTQIA issues, same for India. It's not accepted at all. It applies also to Eastern EU and Finland. The point is... it has no impact on the most of the world. What's the fuss?

They could spare time fixing damn non working kernel drivers better and ban those idiot devs who accepted them into kernel and sparing my time often blacklisting native kernel drivers and then after each update doing that again and again compile a module... How you cannot become rude and use some strong words on some devs? Linus does that, and I don't care as long it works out and is first of all FREE.
Thing is Linus's conduct has actually been directly detrimental to good coding at times. He can be at times, unreliable.

Pretty sure this initial code of conduct is targeting that far more than the theoretical code of conduct other groups are pushing for.

As I said, this article is designed to rile people up. And it may be working.
 
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lol.. I was pointing out this CoC the other day in another thread. Forgot which now? I even mentioned Linus, before this apology.. and how it stood up all of these years merely on Meritocracy (which is what all open source has and should do). Guess that wasn't good enough for them.

Good luck with trying to unscrew yourself now.

edit: Telling from the replies in this thread, this is worse than I thought. It's not "drama" when a project like this loses and/or scares off the "brain trust". And those who stick around for now will be some of the ones kicked out later too, when they have a minor slip or someone digs up an offensive forum post from 15 years ago and complains. There's no forgiveness with this.
 
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lol.. I was pointing out this CoC the other day in another thread. Forgot which now? I even mentioned Linus, before this apology.. and how it stood up all of these years merely on Meritocracy (which is what all open source has and should do). Guess that wasn't good enough for them.

Good luck with trying to unscrew yourself now.

edit: Telling from the replies in this thread, this is worse than I thought. It's not "drama" when a project like this loses and/or scares off the "brain trust". And those who stick around for now will be some of the ones kicked out later too, when they have a minor slip or someone digs up an offensive forum post from 15 years ago and complains. There's no forgiveness with this.
Time will tell, but my bet is nothing changes.
 

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He can be at times, unreliable.
I believe the word you're looking for is "asshole". He's talked about his behavior but, along with not having manners, that's just who he is and he's not going to sugarcoat things for people. He said something along the lines of "people who are offended by what I have to say, should be." Part of me is with him but, part of me isn't. What he says are the kinds of things I would think but, probably wouldn't say.
 
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Time will tell, but my bet is nothing changes.
If it's already powerful enough to shame the very creator of the project, compel him to get "counseling", and walk away from coding Linux for now. If he isn't safe, no one is. Besides that, it's so vague as to be easily weaponized. If you just made a Code of Conduct that forbids criminal behavior, then we're getting into specifics and it's much easier to enforce properly (because it follows actual laws). Right Think and including subjective feelings into the equation is another thing entirely.

Besides that, you're going to want the jerks who can patch a security hole. Or whatever niche problem that needs to be fixed asap. Businesses especially. It's not going to matter whether he's nice or not.
 
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I believe the word you're looking for is "asshole". He's talked about his behavior but, along with not having manners, that's just who he is and he's not going to sugarcoat things for people. He said something along the lines of "people who are offended by what I have to say, should be." Part of me is with him but, part of me isn't. What he says are the kinds of things I would think but, probably wouldn't say.
The problem is the fact... it is free, you cannot scold normally, no salary, bonuses or whatever if you push a bad code if it would be for a normal company, so it seems kind of unnatural commie like structure. The only thing that remains at git is simply shame using commits.
 

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The problem is the fact... it is free, you cannot scold normally, no salary, bonuses or whatever if you push a bad code if it would be for a normal company, so it seems kind of unnatural commie like structure. The only thing that remains at git is simply shame using commits.
You're saying that like people who write kernel code aren't paid money. There are some contributors who do it for nothing but, there are a lot of devs paid by companies to work on the kernel. You would be surprised at how much Intel employees contribute.
 
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FreeBSD partly ran on donations. They adopted a CoC as well a few months back and donations have dropped.

The good thing about BSD though is it is easily forked and can still be "BSD". Unlike Linux.
 

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You're saying that like people who write kernel code aren't paid money. There are some contributors who do it for nothing but, there are a lot of devs paid by companies to work on the kernel. You would be surprised at how much Intel employees contribute.
They kind of have to for Intel to remain competitive in the super computing/database sector.


I don't like how this article is literally two paragraphs. It has no meat.
 
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Time will tell, but my bet is nothing changes.
Like to think that but these people are getting the changes for crazy BS. For example New York has 31 genders now, sure it's going get worse. To think 31 more way's to offend people because, well how can you tell.

I would suggest them wearing a label but i guess that be further insult.

Anyways like to think nothing will come of it, but the shit that's going don alll over t Europe \ UK and the USA anythings possible.

OMG to think Trumps on about re opening the mines, better get the foreigners in as everyone is turning in to illogical dumb asses.
 
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Is this how hardocp normally operates? That "article" and forum discussion is a train wreck.
 

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Well, there are discussions spread across the net now.

Here's a longer one. https://itsfoss.com/linux-code-of-conduct/
https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/linus-torvalds-takes-a-break-from-linux/
I think the Code of Conduct was a wake up call for Linus. He admitted to violating two in his letter:
*Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks
* Public or private harassment
The moment he signed, he maybe got banned:
Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening, offensive, or harmful.
Maybe the new Code of Conduct was inspired by "non-binary" people but him stepping away from Linux is not. He acted out against other maintainers, has a history of doing it often, and he's finally acknowledging he needs to do something about it.
 
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https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/linus-torvalds-takes-a-break-from-linux/
I think the Code of Conduct was a wake up call for Linus. He admitted to violating two in his letter:

The moment he signed, he maybe got banned:

Maybe the new Code of Conduct was inspired by "non-binary" people but him stepping away from Linux is not. He acted out against other maintainers, has a history of doing it often, and he's finally acknowledging he needs to do something about it.
If you think getting rid of Linus on his own project is a good thing, so be it. I have no horse in the race. It'll be entertaining either way for me.

I also find it interesting that the signers of the new agreement are corporate (facebook, Intel, VMWare). It's probably more than a takeover by mere SJW individuals.

Signed-off-by: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com> Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> Signed-off-by: Olof Johansson <olof@lxom.net> Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt (VMware) <rostedt@goodmis.org> Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
 
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If it's already powerful enough to shame the very creator of the project, compel him to get "counseling", and walk away from coding Linux for now. If he isn't safe, no one is.
Most coders can control themselves in public.

Again I don't see this changing much.
 
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Most coders can control themselves in public.

Again I don't see this changing much.
It's not about self-control. You can still offend people without even knowing. You could either just be bad at social cues (especially through a screen.. but autistic people especially aren't even known for it face to face) or you could not even know all of the rules. Or maybe the rules change day-to-day.
 
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