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Linux...Should I Try??!!??

K just reading it, "The Desktop CD installer still has no/poor support for fakeraids."

Translation: You fucked.
 
PVTCaboose1337 said:
K just reading it, "The Desktop CD installer still has no/poor support for fakeraids."

Translation: You fucked.
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Can you explain more please? I swear, you don't even explain anything in your posts. You've said the same thing over and over again. I don't even read your posts sometimes.

It says the Desktop CD Installer has no/poor support, that's why some guides say to use the Alternate CD Installer that goes straight no installing, no Live CD.
 
I'll just keep reading on RAID 0 and Ubuntu, see if I can get anything going here.
 
Wait:

If (like me) you are going for a performance raid, then you will need to create a separate /boot partition, otherwise grub wont be able to boot - it doesn't have the drivers needed to access raid 0 arrays. It sounds simple, but it took me so long to figure out.

How do I make a separate /boot partition? So that grub can boot...?
 
Doing it all in console sounds alot easier after i read. If you saw step 7. BUT you still need that little program mdadm... on the live cd, someone who does not know the commands it would be easier. I would do the live cd since you can "see" what is going on. I personally, would go with the console if I knew ALL the commands, but I don't and I prefer visual.
 
PVTCaboose1337 said:
Doing it all in console sounds alot easier after i read. If you saw step 7. BUT you still need that little program mdadm... on the live cd, someone who does not know the commands it would be easier. I would do the live cd since you can "see" what is going on. I personally, would go with the console if I knew ALL the commands, but I don't and I prefer visual.
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What should I do though? Doesn't the console way look a lot easier than booting up Live CD?
 
K if in console, print out basic linux commands just in case... google a sheet, I have my favorite from 1998. Anyway, I would print the two tutorials, both just in case, and finally get some coffee, and if you cannto do the console and find yourself in over your head... find a stopping point and come here.
 
Azn Tr14dZ said:
Thanks, I read that, but it requires me to boot Live CD.

What about this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461

It shows how to install Ubuntu on RAID, and it seems a lot easier using the alternate than the Live CD...how about it?
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Try it. :laugh:

You aren;t going to learn anything if you get everything handed to you on a silver platter with a big red button saying push me :p

The best way IMO to learn it is trial and error. If you spend 3 hours trying to get past step X in the install, thats 3 hours you just learned a ton of options, how to look at the "linux style" errors, and how to read between the lines. :)

And when you finally DO figure it out.

You feel like GOD. xD
 
Lol, I just don't want to mess up my XP install, I have some things in there...

So, should I go for it? In console?
 
Dippy and I are kinda having two sides to the one solution, but we can compromise.

Yes do it, but have some material on hand for emergencies...

But do it the dippy way, like you have no idea what to do. Good luck. And then you will feel as cool as both of us :D
 
As cool as both of you...




































:laugh:

OKAY!

Lol, but I'll try it in a sec...hopefully console is easier! If I mess up, then I'l have to re-install XP.

Btw, I can re-install XP as much as I can as long as no hardware changes right? I hate calling MS for another set of numbers.
 
Most of the time XP won't get angry but then again it is a microsoft product. I have only had one situation and that was when I unplugged my HD and then plugged it back in... you should be ok. XP reinstall = easy as pie.

EDIT: And easy as pie btw... not so with the ubuntu install you have to go through. :D
 
Ok, I printed one of the tutorials (the one that includes both Alternate CD and Live CD)...I'll see how it goes guys, post back in a few...hours. Lol, jk, few mins (hopefully).
 
Before I start...

If (like me) you are going for a performance raid, then you will need to create a separate /boot partition, otherwise grub wont be able to boot - it doesn't have the drivers needed to access raid 0 arrays. It sounds simple, but it took me so long to figure out.

How do I make a /boot partition? And also, what is a root space, home space, swap partitions?


On my two identical 250 GB drives, I created two 1 GB swap partitions, two +150 GB partitions (to become a raid0 array fro my /home space), and two +40 GB partitions (to become a raid 0 array for my root space), all inside an extended partition at the end of my drives. I then also created a small 500 MB partition on the first drive, which would become my /boot space. I left the rest of the space on my drives for ntfs partitions.
 
K the boot partition is a funky file name... like ext3 or something, but basically, Ubuntu will tell you. K so a swap partition I use for so windows can see a drive, and linxu can as well, cause XP / vista and linux cannot see each other (lol). Anyway, basically your gonna have a boot area, a swap drive, a place where the actual system files reside, and a place where you have all your files, 4 in all. Ubuntu does 3 (no swap, its easy though just make a fat32 partition about 10gb and your good) Ubuntu does it all.
 
To Dippy:

Oh shit we both forgot... Azn has an ATI card. (no offense, I love ATI) Linux + ATI = problematic driverwise sometime. Might have to help him later to get it stable. For now he will be fine but later... problems.
 
It never worked, and I couldn't get Ubuntu working.

Now, I have a problem installing XP Pro!

Whenever I put a Disc in (after installation is done), it says that it can't recognize the disc, and the options are Cancel, Try Again, and Continue, and no matter what I choose, the same screen stays up! Huge problem.

Help?
 
Azn Tr14dZ said:
It never worked, and I couldn't get Ubuntu working.

Now, I have a problem installing XP Pro!

Whenever I put a Disc in (after installation is done), it says that it can't recognize the disc, and the options are Cancel, Try Again, and Continue, and no matter what I choose, the same screen stays up! Huge problem.

Help?
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Sounds like your drive is bunk, or your CD is bunk.

Ati drivers really shouldn't be a terribly huge issue with the current uBuntu. As long as its a "common" card the drivers should work. The problems mainly arise from uncommon cards or mobility cheapo cards.

If you're doing a clean install anyways, I'd say if you're interested, drop raid 0 for a little while to learn the ins and outs of linux and windows, you'll get a better peace of mind when screwing with things, and you won't actually... lose performance in your games because raid 0 doesn't really help much if any in most cases.


Btw to make a bootable /boot partition, and you're using the graphical installer (console should do it too, just a little harder to do by hand) should give you either the option to make a custom partition layout, or a few preset layouts.

IIRC the "normal" linux partition setup is like a 50mb /boot, a 256-300mb /swap and then the rest as /.

Though I see more and more things going back to the "common" single root partition.

PVTCaboose1337 said:
Might have to help him later to get it stable. For now he will be fine but later... problems.
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Stability isn't and never was the problem with Ati drivers, the problem normally is managing to get the 3d drivers installed and working properly. Once thats accomplished you shouldn't even have to think twice about stability.


On my two identical 250 GB drives, I created two 1 GB swap partitions, two +150 GB partitions (to become a raid0 array fro my /home space), and two +40 GB partitions (to become a raid 0 array for my root space), all inside an extended partition at the end of my drives. I then also created a small 500 MB partition on the first drive, which would become my /boot space. I left the rest of the space on my drives for ntfs partitions.
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You can't make the partitions you need in windows. (No "extended partitions" in linux ;) Unless you're talking about EXT3 from in linux, perhaps. )
 
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I don't know what to do now. Maybe do a little more reading before I try it out again, I just activated my copy of Windows...so yeah.
 
Azn Tr14dZ said:
I don't know what to do now. Maybe do a little more reading before I try it out again, I just activated my copy of Windows...so yeah.
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Try a virtual machine, so you're able to run a "normal" install of ubuntu :toast:

A venice might even have the VT flag, so it would be quite snappy.
 
VT Flag?
 
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