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Logitech Gaming G11 vs Saitek Eclipse II

I can highly recommend the Saitek Cyborg. This board is awesome. USB, Headphone and Mic Jacks on back right, touch controls and you can set different areas to different colours.

I have WASD, SPACE, UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT and the Side Buttons Green, then the rest Red.
 
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All I am saying is that Logitech is of high quality and you are not . you stated they are of poor quality and really have nothing to back your statement up with . I see it like this if some thing is as you say of poor quality then I would see things like the parts not working some sorta break down and well I am not seeing this in any Logitech and to prevent some one from getting a Logitech key board just because you " FEEL " they are of a poor quality is really just wrong . I have never ran into a time were I had to press more than 8 keys at a time in any game and well I only have 10 fingers and there is only so much I can do with them at any one time any way .. At any rate if I was the OP get the one that makes you feel good as well they both are of GOOD QUALITY !
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I don't "FEEL" the Logitech G15 is poor quality, it is poor quality for the very reasons I listed above which are on record by the way and just because nothing has happen to yours doesn't mean the materials arn't cheap, the keyboard has a large markup and sales depend on brand name which Logitech succeeds at doing. there isn't much that can contribute to a failure rate of the keyboard (any keyboard) except for the lcd and cord maybe. any one of the mechanical keyboards I listed have superior build quality and performance it's a FACT. you can choose to accept it or ignore it but give it up.
 
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MoonPig said:
I can highly recommend the Saitek Cyborg. This board is awesome. USB, Headphone and Mic Jacks on back right, touch controls and you can set different areas to different colours.

I have WASD, SPACE, UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT and the Side Buttons Green, then the rest Red.
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Good point the G11 does not do that. Nor does it have Headphone and Mic Jacks on back.
you can set different areas to different colours.
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The G11 does have a nice dimming feature for the lighting of the keys and 2 USB ports on the back. They are not Hi Speed USB though. Are the USB ports Hi Speed on the Saitek?
 
Keyboards and mice are like shoes.Everyone buys what they find comfortable,not whats recommended to them.
 
oh and to put the final nail in the coffin for the G15. i'll quote

I'm also an IT professional (and programmer), so I know exactly where you're coming from.

The thing is that you're missing one of the fundamental differences between mechanical keyboards and rubber domes - that with mechanicals you only have to press the key halfway down for it to actuate. So while I agree that the clicky aspect of most switches is useless after a certain speed, the tactile feedback is not.

Take Cherry MX Blue switches for example. The full key travel is 4mm, and the actuation point is at 2mm. The tactile bump is placed right before the actuation point - at around 1mm from the rest position - so that as soon as your finger feels it you know that you can prepare to move it to the next key while its momentum finishes the keystroke (without bottoming out).

After a little while of typing like this your finger muscles will get used to it, and you'll end up tapping the keys with just the right amount of force each time. And less key travel + less force = less fatigue

As for software profiling and macro keys, there's always the program AutoHotKey. Personally, I prefer it over dedicated keys anyway - because it lets you set any key or combination of keys as a macro. So when you game for example, you can use it to disable your Windows key. Or set it as a macro. Or set it as a modifier for macros, to use combinations like windows+s, or windows+right click.
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and to be honest I have been pretty nice about this try defending your G15 at geekhack or overclock the keyboard experts will burn you and your keyboard to the stake in 5 seconds flat which unlike you was something I wasn't trying to do. [insert canned audience]
 
Im buying one of those floppy rubber keyboards off ebay, you can put them in the dishwasher, rool them up, all sorts.
 
I saw in the picture of eclipse 2 that the glowing keys are shift and some around it but not WASD keys is that true ? Because it wouldnt be usefull if only shift and few around keys would glow.

And also. Which of these keyboards is newer ? Can you tell me what year it was released or something?
 
Cermet said:
I saw in the picture of eclipse 2 that the glowing keys are shift and some around it but not WASD keys is that true ? Because it wouldnt be usefull if only shift and few around keys would glow.

And also. Which of these keyboards is newer ? Can you tell me what year it was released or something?
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the entire keyboard glows, not just some areas. its just hard to take photos about.
 
So basically the Eclipse 2 costs in my country about 35 lt more ,thats about 15 dollars more. So im just thinking should i take G11 because it has that great 35 procent price cut or eclipse which is a litle bit more expensive but maybe its better ?
 
if they both use plastic dome switches just grab the cheaper one.
 
Just upgraded from my saitek eclipse...thought I would give it a try - it is coming in the mail:

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823161028

Will comment next week...
 
Oh and one more thing. Which company is more trust worthy. I mean i know logitech specializes in this area and its a big company but what about Saitek ? Can i trust that kind of company? Or is it actually a good and big company just that i dont know that ?
 
SteelSeries now owns Ideazon. Cermet what difference does it make just purchase the G11 I have already made enemies because of this stupid thread.
 
saitek are almost exclusively keyboards, joysticks and PC peripherals. logitech are spread out more.

They're both good - i use a saitek keyboard and a logitech mouse.
 
This tread is not stupid and you made "ENEMIES" because of your own foult. If you don't want to discuss this you can leave. As soon as i hear enough cons and pros il go and buy one of those keyboards. I dont want to buy one of those keyboards without consulting others just to realize " OH snap this one is not as good as the other one".
 
I made enemies because I was trying to help you so you would get more bang for your buck and not ripped off. both keyboards are backlit, both use plastic domes and both can be RMA, G11 is cheaper so buy it end of story.
 
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I looked on geekhack,most of the keyboards they use look like crap,big deal just because they have mechanical switches.What differance does it make anyway as long as the damn thing works.I have tried a crappy old grey keyboard that had mechanical switches,and it was annoyingly noisy.Its down to personal choice,i would'nt buy any of the ones they use,they look cack,i want something that looks good,i dont care if anyone says its cack or not I like it,and thats all that matters.

Bumblebee,if you did make enemies,its because you werent neutral on this,all you seemed to want to do is tell people how cack you think logitech keyboards are,thats your opinion,fair enuff,but why make a point of it in nearly every post,and why go to so much trouble to try and justify your opinion.
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thats a bunch of bullsh*t tigger, I expected more from you.

if it was old and grey it was probably a buckling spring, noise depends on what cherry or alps switch the keyboard uses some are whisper quiet some are loud which is demonstrated in this video.

mechanical keyboards look fine to me they are sleek and even some come backlit.

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Oh one more thing. Which of these keyboards have keys that sound quieter? Because some say G11 sound more quiet and others say that Eclipse 2 so which one is it. I want it to be more like notebook style, quiet.
 
they are both the same. if you want that purchase the Razer Lycosa it has flat key caps with rubber domes which makes it less travel time and quiet. or try and find a similar keyboard that is cheaper.
 
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I expect some maturity for starters.. I was right and thats all that matters. it's not a opinion it's a fact you don't have to like it but you do have to live with it. do you know why I wasn't neutral? because I couldn't find anything good to say about the G15 I had to be strong I had no one in my corner it's me vs. everybody that owns a G15 and I won so and I don't feel good about it because people are going to cry or won't accept a woman gave it to them with a strapon.
 
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Like mussels, I move my keyboard around alot, and the razer Lycosa is by far the sexiest and most useful keyboards on the market.
 
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ok f it. Lock this thread because there is only arguing left and no suggestions.
 
thats because there is nothing left to discuss and I am getting bunked from left to right. I don't know what you expect us to tell you they both use the same technology, they sound the same, Saitek might feel different, both are backlit, one has G Keys but I even gave you a solution to make your own G Keys (better ones) in case you purchase the Saitek so good luck with your G11 purchase :)
 
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Ok then G11 its is. I hope my desk wont brake down because this KB is so damn big.
 
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