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Looking for some help identifying a problem(?) with Amp! Extreme Core Ed. 1080 Ti (may need help with bios flashing and/or replacing TIM)

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Hello, all. Sorry for the long subject title - I was trying to be as descriptive as possible. Anyway, here's my issue. I'm on my third-ever gpu since I built this system in early 2016 (my first build in ~20 years). I started out with the Zotac Amp! Extreme 980 Ti. That card had a 77.5% ASIC score, and it was easily able to OC to 1500Mhz with my custom fan curve, which was more or less 1:1 temp(c):fan%. Even during benchmarks like Firestrike and in hardcore games such as Witcher 3 sessions (1440@ultra w/ vsync) that card would NEVER reach 60c, ever. In fact, I found it amusing that with my custom fan profile, no matter what games I was playing or what benchmark I was running, the thing basically stayed below 56deg/56%fan at all times. It would usually cap at 55/55 in 999/1000 sessions. Basically, the card BLEW me away. I thought I had a freak gpu sample.

Anyway, I bought that 980 Ti late in its life, and I was compelled to buy a 1080 (another Amp! Extreme Edition, of course, after this first experience) right when they came out because I thought it would allow me to play my fav game (Witcher 3) at 4k with vsync on (60fps). Turns out I was wrong. Even though my 980 Ti could do it in the high 40s avg, I just couldn't really go beyond 54-56 on avg with the new 1080. So, yea, that's my excuse for making such a dumb decision with that particular upgrade....but honestly the Amp! Extreme 1080 was still just as amazing with the temperatures as the 980 Ti was. So by now I was thoroughly impressed with these cards by Zotac, and I planned on getting the 1080 Ti as soon as I could.

Well, I now have the 1080 Ti, but I ended up buying the Amp! Extreme "Core" Edition because the non-core (the normal amp! extreme) was sold out everywhere and no one was sure if they were getting them back. I purchased it anyway, and the card did allow me to play Witcher 3 in 4k Ultra at 60fps Vsync. I was happy with that. What I wasn't happy with was the thermals. My prior 2 cards were the same, MAXING out at about 55/56c @ 55/56% fan. This new card would reach into the high 60s and even low 70s even with a slightly more demanding curve (once it hit 50c I jumped it up to 60%, so fan% = temp+10). That didn't seem so bad at first, especially considering the fact that I heard it ran hotter than the other two. But when I look at reviews I still see people touting the same amazing thermal specs that I had with my prior 2 amp extreme cards... And , btw, the room I game in is usually about 17c, so a bit colder than most others......

Fast forward to a few months ago. I recently moved across town and brought my PC with me. I didn't game for a while, so I'm just noticing this now. My 1080 Ti now reaches over 70c on most any demanding game, and I see it hit 80-85 on occasion in some games (The Dwarves is one..., so was Dragon Quest XI at the very very beginning of the game, before it crashed..). This is with my room at abou 16c. Window open in winter. To me, this can't be right.

My experience with my past 2 amp extreme cards, combined with the fact that this card still has the same BEASTLY cooling solution attached to it (and most reviews I still see of my exact card - the core edition- are still claiming the same type of results I had with my past 2 amp extreme cards), are making me search for possible fixes. Basically I'm interested in re-applying thermal paste to the GPU itself and doing anything else (while I'm "in" there) that might help the card out. What I'm asking you guys is if there are any other tests or things to look for which may give me a better idea as to what may be causing such poor performance with my card's thermals. I also have heard talk about replacing VBIOS on cards (I keep hearing about the STRIX BIOS), but I have never done that before and, again, would be love to be pointed in the right direction if someone knows a place/forum that deals with my particular card. I am pretty technically/computer proficient myself, but working with GPUs in particular is new to me, and a little scary just considering how much they cost (and I don't believe my card has dual bios).

Any help anyone can offer me or direct me towards would be GREATLY appreciated, and I'm very sorry for the long description/story/wallOtext. I just like to break it down as much as possible so folks see where I'm coming from.
 
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Replacing thermal paste on GPUs is easy. Just be careful if you use conductive compound.

I guess you could check the thermal pads on the power delivery circuitry and VRAM.

@eidairaman1 can help you with BIOS flashing.
 

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Replacing thermal paste on GPUs is easy. Just be careful if you use conductive compound.

I guess you could check the thermal pads on the power delivery circuitry and VRAM.

@eidairaman1 can help you with BIOS flashing.
He needs to condense the wall of text to what the problem is, im not going to try and decyper it.
 
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He needs to condense the wall of text to what the problem is, im not going to try and decyper it.
My experience with my past 2 amp extreme cards, combined with the fact that this card still has the same BEASTLY cooling solution attached to it (and most reviews I still see of my exact card - the core edition- are still claiming the same type of results I had with my past 2 amp extreme cards), are making me search for possible fixes. Basically I'm interested in re-applying thermal paste to the GPU itself and doing anything else (while I'm "in" there) that might help the card out. What I'm asking you guys is if there are any other tests or things to look for which may give me a better idea as to what may be causing such poor performance with my card's thermals. I also have heard talk about replacing VBIOS on cards (I keep hearing about the STRIX BIOS), but I have never done that before and, again, would be love to be pointed in the right direction if someone knows a place/forum that deals with my particular card. I am pretty technically/computer proficient myself, but working with GPUs in particular is new to me, and a little scary just considering how much they cost (and I don't believe my card has dual bios).
Looks like he wants to know if he can cross-flash it with the Asus ROG Strix BIOS, and if not, what BIOS will work on it. He wants to know if that could help with his bad thermals.
 

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Looks like he wants to know if he can cross-flash it with the Asus ROG Strix BIOS, and if not, what BIOS will work on it. He wants to know if that could help with his bad thermals.
Replace thermal compound/pads, dust the card and case.

Ambient room temperature is a big factor in all computers, blowing hot air on hot parts makes em hotter.

Ymmv.

I need a gpu-z screenshot and a link to the specific bios, click arrow next to uefi checkbox in gpu-z, attempt upload to vga bios collection through the program, should get prompted about bios being in database, copy and paste link here

Some cards may need a washer trick
 
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He needs to condense the wall of text to what the problem is, im not going to try and decyper it.
Hence the line at the very top of the post which was put in specifically for folks such as yourself. And I did apologize (for those who actually did take the minute to read it ).

Ask vague questions, get vague answers is how I see it. If it's too long of a read for anyone, you can just read the bold parts (or choose not to help me). Thanks, and I'm sorry.

Replace thermal compound/pads, dust the card and case.

Ambient room temperature is a big factor in all computers, blowing hot air on hot parts makes em hotter.

Ymmv.

I need a gpu-z screenshot and a link to the specific bios, click arrow next to uefi checkbox in gpu-z, attempt upload to vga bios collection through the program, should get prompted about bios being in database, copy and paste link here

Some cards may need a washer trick
As stated, my ambient temps are very low (compared to most). Right this moment, I'm in my room and the ambient temp is about 16c. Gets as low as 13c at times. During winter, it's almost always 15-19c. The PC case gets literally ice cold.

EDIT: Forgot the screenshot. Here is Gpu-Z. If you need anything else for me, let me know. BTW, this card is basically stock (well, it's a "stock" Amp! Extreme Core Edition - I haven't really fiddled with anything except fan profiles etc in afterburner but they were currently disabled when this SS was taken).
 

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if i understand correct you create a problem where there is none: look at the temps:

cannot compare a 980ti to a 1080ti just because it has a similar looking cooler and 70° during gaming is good-no probs here.

in reviews they often use a open bench test so yeah in a case your temp will go above that.


maybe i misread your concerns- if yes sorry and forget my post
 
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I'm getting over 70c gaming. Sometimes over 80c. This is in a room that's usually ~16c. And I wasn't only comparing to my other gpus. I constantly hear people saying their 1080 Ti (same model as mine) runs very cool (then they post temps/fan% that are identical to what I had on my other amp extremes). Oh, yea, and then there's the fact that it used to stay within 65-70c. I've just recently noticed (after not gaming for a while), that it's jumping into the 70s constantly (and, in some games, into the low 80s) - and dthis is with near 100% fan speeds). I can't help but feel that something's up.

Anyway, I found these videos:




I'll try and find a board that's specifically for my card since I feel this is not the right place to post this kind of (specific gpu tweak/repair) stuff. Thanks, though.
 
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Whats your system specs, to include heatsinks on cpus, fans, case size.

If you have such a problem contact zotac or learn how to crossflash.

Hows your cable management?

Case air flow is paramount.
 
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is the corsair set to blow the hot air outside the case?
replacing the tim will probably help a bit, but usually not with the avg temps, but peak numbers like min/max.
proper airflow seems to be the problem, as the card should be a bit cooler when using a LC for the cpu.

when running air cooled cards i used to put a piece of black (foam) writing board between end of the card and the ODD,
so that the air from front fans/intake would get pushed below the gpu, and thus less rebreathing of (hotter) case air.
 
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