Making sure this is right so I don't blow up my PC.

[Deleted member 205776]

Seasonic FOCUS or PRIME is excellent PSUs (Prime maybe a little better). Both of them exist on Gold/Platinum effeciency rate. You really dont need anything above Gold rated, unless you run the PC at max wattage 24/7.
If there is a significant difference between Gold/Platinum on your local market, then go for the Gold one.

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How are the cables on the Focus GX 850? I don't wanna refund yet another psu

 

[Zach_01]

Pics and specs, bottom of following page

FOCUS GX

The newly upgraded FOCUS PX and FX series are the successor to the FOCUS PLUS Series.

seasonic.com

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Pics and specs, bottom of following page

FOCUS GX

The newly upgraded FOCUS PX and FX series are the successor to the FOCUS PLUS Series.

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That 24 pin cable looks like it's not gonna fit

 

[delshay]

Hi,
Worst psu listing I've seen
Guess it doesn't mater top 2 are for cpu or just the top right if you only need one.

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I look at modular PSU slightly different here. Firstly, I look at where the MOSFETS are located on the main PCB by looking at on-line review breakdown.. Then I plug the GPU into the nearest socket (shortest path to the MOSFETS), then the next nearest for the CPU. Can't say for sure if this is going to make any different, I'm still checking.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I found the Fractal design ION+ 860W 80+ Platinum, with so called "Ultraflex" cables that sound just like the solution to my problem. Anyone know anything about this PSU?

@Zach_01 @tabascosauz

 

[tabascosauz]

I found the Fractal design ION+ 860W 80+ Platinum, with so called "Ultraflex" cables that sound just like the solution to my problem. Anyone know anything about this PSU?

@Zach_01 @tabascosauz

IIRC the high end IONs are alright on electrical performance. The "Ultraflex" cables just sound like stock cables with extra steps though.

If it's perfect length you're looking for, you'd be hard-pressed to find anything out of ordering custom length cables (eg what I did for my SF600). But there's not a lot of reference to go off of, because most people who need custom lengths are building SFF, and most ATX/mATX users find an empty space in the case to stow the excess. The point of the off-the-shelf Cablemod stuff is to be easily able to fit most cases.

If it's softer cables you're looking for, custom cables is the only way to go. Seasonic stock cables are damn stiff. I have custom Modflex on my Corsair SF600 (a custom config I ordered back in 2016 or so), and a Modmesh (SE-series) on my Seasonic SGX650. Both are fantastic, pliable and easy to work with.

Your best bet is to get something that's widely supported from Corsair or Seasonic and either find a Cablemod kit you like, or place a custom order with a place like Pexon or Cablemod's configurator. Unfortunately, while the small vendors do some amazing work, they're hella expensive, work on a per-cable basis, and usually have a long wait time.

I think aside from their website Cablemod has a bunch of distributors around the world, take a look to see if there's one with stock that can ship to you. I think the reason they're all out of stock is they have no production at the moment due to factory upgrades.

Where to Buy – CableMod

I guess if you're just after softer cables and don't expect to ever get any custom cables in the future for this PSU, you can give the Fractal 860W a try.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I just want a PSU that can handle an RTX 3080 TDP level card and not make me want to hit my head with a glass pane while installing it. If the cables are as flexible as my CX 650 I'll be happy.

 

[tabascosauz]

I just want a PSU that can handle an RTX 3080 TDP level card and not make me want to hit my head with a glass pane while installing it. If the cables are as flexible as my CX 650 I'll be happy.

It's an 860W, it'll be more than plenty. Don't expect Seasonic PRIME-level electrical performance out of it, but it's not going to detonate your PC. As long as you think you'll be staying with the stock cables in the future, seems like a reasonably priced choice. The reviewers are pretty impressed with the Ultraflex cables so it's definitely going to be easier to route than Seasonic stock stuff.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Well, this PSU will be at close to 50% load at worst, not intending on maxing it out. Maybe about 60-65% when I get a high TDP GPU. I also spend 70% of my day idling on YouTube.

I know it's not as good as Prime but honestly that's fine, it's still an upgrade to my mid-range oriented CX 650 that I've been holding on ever since I had my HP Prebuilt. I would get Seasonic Prime but again, stock cables on it are apparently too rigid and I'd rather avoid cable kits after this experience.

This sounds like the only PSU that would satisfy my needs atm: an 850W PSU with 80+ Plat efficiency and easy to handle cables.

I just hope it won't blow up.

 

[Zach_01]

I found the Fractal design ION+ 860W 80+ Platinum, with so called "Ultraflex" cables that sound just like the solution to my problem. Anyone know anything about this PSU?

@Zach_01 @tabascosauz

Looks like a quality one and according to this its Tier-A like the Seasonics

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[tabascosauz]

Well, this PSU will be at close to 50% load at worst, not intending on maxing it out. Maybe about 60-65% when I get a high TDP GPU. I also spend 70% of my day idling on YouTube.

I know it's not as good as Prime but honestly that's fine, it's still an upgrade to my mid-range oriented CX 650 that I've been holding on ever since I had my HP Prebuilt. I would get Seasonic Prime but again, stock cables on it are apparently too rigid and I'd rather avoid cable kits after this experience.

This sounds like the only PSU that would satisfy my needs atm: an 850W PSU with 80+ Plat efficiency and easy to handle cables.

I just hope it won't blow up.

Avoiding all cable kits because Corsair can't make a decent one seems a bit...unfair. Corsair's sleeved cables look good and ensure compatibility but the physical quality isn't really there compared to the real deal you can get elsewhere. Anyhow, the Fractal I think is like High Power or CWT OEM so you probably won't get any aftermarket kits.

aris' review compared it to the Focus PX (Focus Plus Plat) and the Fractal is okay if you take into account its price tag. The PRIME is priced way out of both their leagues. But it's also really hard to pick out problems with the Focus PX's performance, and apparently the Fractal is really universally said to be quiet compared to even the PX (I had a SSR-550PX, absolutely whisper quiet), so that seems like a winning combination with the affordable price since the PX isn't cheap.

10 year warranty, I wouldn't fret.

My standard for dodgy-PSU-I-wouldn't-buy is the old EVGA NEX650G and NEX750G. A really low bar lmao. Aside from EVGA literally making their new products worse than their old products, nothing else recent comes to mind as being so bad I'd be concerned for my PC.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Avoiding all cable kits because Corsair can't make a decent one seems a bit...unfair. Corsair's sleeved cables look good and ensure compatibility but the physical quality isn't really there compared to the real deal you can get elsewhere. Anyhow, the Fractal I think is like High Power or CWT OEM so you probably won't get any aftermarket kits.

aris' review compared it to the Focus PX (Focus Plus Plat) and the Fractal is okay if you take into account its price tag. The PRIME is priced way out of both their leagues. But it's also really hard to pick out problems with the Focus PX's performance, and apparently the Fractal is really universally said to be quiet compared to even the PX (I had a SSR-550PX, absolutely whisper quiet), so that seems like a winning combination with the affordable price since the PX isn't cheap.

10 year warranty, I wouldn't fret.

My standard for dodgy-PSU-I-wouldn't-buy is the old EVGA NEX650G and NEX750G. A really low bar lmao. Aside from EVGA literally making their new products worse than their old products, nothing else recent comes to mind as being so bad I'd be concerned for my PC.

Alright I'll give this PSU a try. Hopefully I can finally stop using this CX 650.

 

[cst1992]

You could definitely go for it. IMO it'll be better than any Gold rated unit on the market.
Check this review summary out:

Fractal Design ION+ Platinum 660 and 860W PSU review

We’re putting the new Fractal Design ION+ Platinum power supply on our test bench today. It’s a fresh series in the offer of this Swedish company, as it was introduced at the end o... Final Words & Conclusion

www.guru3d.com

10 year warranty, that's something.
All Japanese caps, nice.
Are you also getting this PSU for the 140EUR that the review states?

 

[Deleted member 205776]

You could definitely go for it. IMO it'll be better than any Gold rated unit on the market.
Check this review summary out:

Fractal Design ION+ Platinum 660 and 860W PSU review

We’re putting the new Fractal Design ION+ Platinum power supply on our test bench today. It’s a fresh series in the offer of this Swedish company, as it was introduced at the end o... Final Words & Conclusion

www.guru3d.com

10 year warranty, that's something.
All Japanese caps, nice.
Are you also getting this PSU for the 140EUR that the review states?

Indeed, about 144 EUR.

My CX 650 has 48 mv ripple on the 12v rail apparently.

This PSU has 12mv.

No wonder I have coil whine...

 

[cst1992]

As long as the cables are what you want, I really don't think there's any issue here.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

As long as the cables are what you want, I really don't think there's any issue here.

They're exactly what I want. Thin, black, ribbon flexible cables and a 24 pin ATX cable without that bulge that the Seasonic and RM750x PSUs have.

This is the third PSU I'm testing out, refunded two so far. Third time's the charm huh?

 

[cst1992]

We'll see.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I have ordered a ION+ 860P. Hope this won't be my third PSU refund of the month.

 

[cst1992]

Do post your impressions once it arrives!

 

[delshay]

Indeed, about 144 EUR.

My CX 650 has 48 mv ripple on the 12v rail apparently.

This PSU has 12mv.

No wonder I have coil whine...

I did an simulated in-cable capacitor mod some months back on a Seasonic PSU. The result was shocking to me as a single capacitor reduce the ripple & noise by a significant amount (checked with a scope meter). A few users came back & said it does nothing for overclocking & makes no difference. This maybe true, as I could not detect any improvement in overclocking, but the way I see it, If you have less ripple from the PSU, that means your component's should last that little bit longer

 

[cst1992]

Indeed, it's about the life of the components.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I don't feel comfortable running this 3070 on a CX 650, even if the PSU is not that bad, I'd much rather have a top tier PSU instead for peace of mind. Again I hope the ION+ cables are good and that I can finally get this PSU dilemma over with, doubt I'd ever have to upgrade PSU again.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Back, the PSU arrived today and I just got done installing it. The cables were as advertised - extremely flexible. Finally a PSU that I managed to install in this case.

The voltages seem okay:

Haven't gotten around to testing the gaming performance of it, but at idle it's inaudible save for a fery faint sound, kinda like soda sizzling but much quieter? Should I be worried about that? My PC hasn't blown up yet so.

 

[cst1992]

That's actually extremely good voltage regulation.
Haven't heard such a sound myself, but I don't think so.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

It gets a bit louder under load, making ocassional clicking sounds, and there's a weird smell coming from the PSU. This exact smell was also present in my brand new RM850x. But nothing has caught fire and it hasn't shut down yet, no coil whine from my GPU now compared to my CX 650. Why are my problems neverending...