• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Microsoft Auto-Updates Components of Windows Without User Permission

Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
6,374 (1.54/day)
Likes
983
System Name ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory 2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card(s) HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
Display(s) 2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2
Software Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation now migrated to W10 with regrets.
#51
"Regardless of whether or not a user has automatic updates turned off, Windows XP and Vista automatically update roughly nine files in Windows Update"
There seems to be different spins on the story. From what I've read elsewhere it works as follows:

1./ If automatic updates are off, nothing happens, until

2./ You select "manual update", then

3./ BEFORE you are presented with the options to select which updates you want, Windows Update updates itself first, WITHOUT ASKING

If the issue is worse than the above, I agree with everyones complaints. But if it really is only the 123 above, then, IMO, the issue is moot.
 
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
74 (0.02/day)
Likes
0
#52
"LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better."

Cut the racism out as well.
You're trying to discredit my post by calling me out for racism? LoL. You better look up racism in the dictionary. Calling out a country's economic system is HARDLY racism. If someone were to say, "Free-Market America" would that make them a racist?
 

effmaster

New Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
1,327 (0.35/day)
Likes
72
Location
Rocket City, Alabama (Huntsville)
Processor Core Duo T2250 1.73 GHZ
Memory 2 GB DDR2
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GEForce Go 7600 256 MB
Storage 120 GB
Display(s) 17 inch notebook
Case metallic grey
Audio Device(s) Creative xmod (though that doesnt really count as a sound card lol)
Power Supply power plug and battery
Software Lots of it
#53
Most modern EA titles are on Mac. Blizzard games are on Mac. id is coming to Mac.

Alot of modern games can actually be played on ubuntu with wine.

:toast:
I never liked Linux personally the install made me feel like i was being treated like a 5 year old:mad::mad:
 
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit
#54
I never liked Linux personally the install made me feel like i was being treated like a 5 year old:mad::mad:
That may be... I was just stating that modern games arn't only on Windows. :toast:
 

effmaster

New Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
1,327 (0.35/day)
Likes
72
Location
Rocket City, Alabama (Huntsville)
Processor Core Duo T2250 1.73 GHZ
Memory 2 GB DDR2
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GEForce Go 7600 256 MB
Storage 120 GB
Display(s) 17 inch notebook
Case metallic grey
Audio Device(s) Creative xmod (though that doesnt really count as a sound card lol)
Power Supply power plug and battery
Software Lots of it
#55
That may be... I was just stating that modern games arn't only on Windows. :toast:
Bioshock is since last I checked it had the Games for Windows logo on it:laugh::laugh::nutkick::nutkick:
 
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit
#56
Bioshock is since last I checked it had the Games for Windows logo on it:laugh::laugh::nutkick::nutkick:
Last time I checked Bioshock wasn't the only modern 3d game, maybe in Alabama though! :nutkick:
 

effmaster

New Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
1,327 (0.35/day)
Likes
72
Location
Rocket City, Alabama (Huntsville)
Processor Core Duo T2250 1.73 GHZ
Memory 2 GB DDR2
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GEForce Go 7600 256 MB
Storage 120 GB
Display(s) 17 inch notebook
Case metallic grey
Audio Device(s) Creative xmod (though that doesnt really count as a sound card lol)
Power Supply power plug and battery
Software Lots of it
#57
Last time I checked Bioshock wasn't the only modern 3d game, maybe in Alabama though! :nutkick:
Bioshock Is the only recently released modern 3D game though and Crysis as well as hellgate: London will also be Games For windows Titles only being released right on the tails of Bioshock :nutkick:
 

AsRock

TPU addict
Joined
Jun 23, 2007
Messages
15,317 (4.00/day)
Likes
4,724
Location
US
Processor 2500k \ 3770k
Motherboard ASRock Z68 \ Z77
Memory Samsung low profile 1600
Video Card(s) XFX 6770 \ XFX R9 290X
Storage Intel 80Gb (SATA2) WD 250Gb \ Team SSD+Samsung Evo 250Gb+500Gb+ 2xCorsair Force+WD250GbHDD
Display(s) Samsung 1080P \ Toshiba HDTV 1080P
Case HTPC400 \ Thermaltake Armor case ( original ), With Zalman fan controller ( wattage usage ).
Audio Device(s) Yamaha RX-V475 \ Marantz SR5008 Tannoy Mercury MKII Paradigm 5SE + Tannoy Mercury F4
Power Supply PC&Power 750w \ Seasonic 750w MKII
Mouse MS intelimouse \ Logitech G700s + Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard Logitech K120 \ ROCCAT MK Pro ( modded amber leds )
Benchmark Scores Meh benchmarks.
#58
This has been on the www.theinquirer.net for some time now with the same link that posted at the top.

Ya not going sue them there's shi you can really do thats why they do it.

BUT updating these files without people knowing gets rid of more hacked versions of the net. BUT like some one else said what if it screwed your comp up. i bet they would not pay to put it right after for you as not everyone can correct problems with a PC there for they would have to pay.

I really hope they get taken court my self not due to doing the updates behind your back but due to the fact who else could do this.
 

effmaster

New Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
1,327 (0.35/day)
Likes
72
Location
Rocket City, Alabama (Huntsville)
Processor Core Duo T2250 1.73 GHZ
Memory 2 GB DDR2
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GEForce Go 7600 256 MB
Storage 120 GB
Display(s) 17 inch notebook
Case metallic grey
Audio Device(s) Creative xmod (though that doesnt really count as a sound card lol)
Power Supply power plug and battery
Software Lots of it
#59
This has been on the www.theinquirer.net for some time now with the same link that posted at the top.

Ya not going sue them there's shi you can really do thats why they do it.

BUT updating these files without people knowing gets rid of more hacked versions of the net. BUT like some one else said what if it screwed your comp up. i bet they would not pay to put it right after for you as not everyone can correct problems with a PC there for they would have to pay.

I really hope they get taken court my self not due to doing the updates behind your back but due to the fact who else could do this.

But who else can do this theres not very many companies out there except for a handful that are just like Microsoft:laugh::laugh::laugh:

And no they won't get taken to Court because I don't tyhink that thjey would have had those automatically updated unless they knew with 99.99999999999999999999999% certainty that there wouldn't be any problems with theses updates screwing up peoples computers:roll::roll:
 
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit
#60
Bioshock Is the only recently released modern 3D game though and Crysis as well as hellgate: London will also be Games For windows Titles only being released right on the tails of Bioshock :nutkick:
Medal of Honor Airborne, Company of Heros, Medieval Total War 2: Kingdoms, GRAW 2. All of these games are modern 3d games.
 

effmaster

New Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
1,327 (0.35/day)
Likes
72
Location
Rocket City, Alabama (Huntsville)
Processor Core Duo T2250 1.73 GHZ
Memory 2 GB DDR2
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GEForce Go 7600 256 MB
Storage 120 GB
Display(s) 17 inch notebook
Case metallic grey
Audio Device(s) Creative xmod (though that doesnt really count as a sound card lol)
Power Supply power plug and battery
Software Lots of it
#61
Medal of Honor Airborne, Company of Heros, Medieval Total War 2: Kingdoms, GRAW 2. All of these games are modern 3d games.
Company of Heroes is also A games for Windows only game lol:laugh::laugh::laugh: silly:slap:
 
Joined
Jan 11, 2007
Messages
318 (0.08/day)
Likes
3
Processor x2 4000+@2.96gz, thermalright ultra90 with 90mm panaflow ultra speed
Motherboard biostar tforce 550
Cooling Thermalright ultra90,90mm panaflow ultra speed fan
Memory Transend AxeRam ddr2 800@986mhz 5-5-5-15 2t TrFc 75ns
Video Card(s) x1900xtx+zalman vf900cu cooler
Storage 80+160+200+250gb
Display(s) 20.1in gaming lcd 1600x1200@120hz(dvi-d)
Case cg-briza (thx again to ashen)
Audio Device(s) realtek 8ch hd audio latist drivers
Power Supply 400watt fsp 12cm fan psu
Software windows 2003 sp2(custom build),nod32,opera9,tcmp,vlc,udrfrag,perfect disk,utorrent
#62
ok i got in on this late, but you all need to read your EULA's a bit better, first off, you dont own windows, you pay for the right to use windows, ms can at any time change your os or the EULA, they own it they can do what they like with it, if you dont like it then install desktop bsd and be done with it.

this isnt to big an issue to me, ms didnt update my system when i got back online, infact i was watching for it all day, i dont use auto update, i do it manualy, but then again i use windows 2003 server not xp(hate xp, hate vista.......*hugs his 2003 server* )

and from what i was reading the update was just to ms update files and acctualy was done to close some critical holes that could be exploited by hackers to crash or gain access to your system, so to me that kind of forced update i can live with, where it an update that could totaly fubar windows, then i wouldnt be to keen on it, but i have yet to see a problem with ms update software being updated ;)

dont you realise that ms can fully dissable vista if it even thinks your doing something they dont like?
read your EULA, your not even allowed to work around buggs in vista its against the eula, hence dispite ms GIVING ME VISTA ULTIMET i wont use it, my 2003 works great as it is, and they cant dissable the gfx card if they think im pirating movies or something.........drm sucks!!!!!
 
Joined
Jan 11, 2007
Messages
318 (0.08/day)
Likes
3
Processor x2 4000+@2.96gz, thermalright ultra90 with 90mm panaflow ultra speed
Motherboard biostar tforce 550
Cooling Thermalright ultra90,90mm panaflow ultra speed fan
Memory Transend AxeRam ddr2 800@986mhz 5-5-5-15 2t TrFc 75ns
Video Card(s) x1900xtx+zalman vf900cu cooler
Storage 80+160+200+250gb
Display(s) 20.1in gaming lcd 1600x1200@120hz(dvi-d)
Case cg-briza (thx again to ashen)
Audio Device(s) realtek 8ch hd audio latist drivers
Power Supply 400watt fsp 12cm fan psu
Software windows 2003 sp2(custom build),nod32,opera9,tcmp,vlc,udrfrag,perfect disk,utorrent
#63
you guys and your immature rant and rave... what is the point on disputing what microsoft does? Honestly, WHY are you using windows when you say it sucks balls? Please elaborate.

Glump, do you really think that microsoft puts out updates to deliberately screw us up? Maybe yes for the WGA, but realize this, you guys would do the SAME thing in their position, its a FACT. Secondly, it is very naive and ignorant to "go with the facts" then "go against the facts" to win an argument...please stop! Have you not realized that some microsoft updates have screwed people over with?

"LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better."

Cut the racism out as well.

EDIT: Refrain from the spam guys...
wtf are you talking about? thats not racist, china is communist, i think you need a labotimy, it would help the net out as a whole really :)
 
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Messages
74 (0.02/day)
Likes
0
#64
Medal of Honor Airborne, Company of Heros, Medieval Total War 2: Kingdoms, GRAW 2. All of these games are modern 3d games.
The great thing about not being a Linux or Mac fanboy, is the fact that I can order a game and not have to research as to whether or not the game works on my PC - because I know 100% it will work on Windows. I'd rather ALL games work for my PC, than not have MS update 'WINDOWS UPDATE' behind my back (those cruel, cruel assholes). BTW, there's still no proof - out of all of the Billion (1,000,000,000) windows users, that Windows Update has ever corrupted ANY program, file, or databse.
 
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit
#65
The great thing about not being a Linux or Mac fanboy, is the fact that I can order a game and not have to research as to whether or not the game works on my PC - because I know 100% it will work on Windows. I'd rather ALL games work for my PC, than not have MS update 'WINDOWS UPDATE' behind my back (those cruel, cruel assholes). BTW, there's still no proof - out of all of the Billion (1,000,000,000) windows users, that Windows Update has ever corrupted ANY program, file, or databse.
Have you ever worked in an office? :laugh:

The point is, Bioshock isn't the only modern 3d game and I have no idea what your trying to get at.
 
Joined
May 24, 2007
Messages
4,715 (1.22/day)
Likes
354
Location
Tennessee
System Name AM3+
Processor AMD FX-8350 @ 4715.73 MHz (23.5*200.63 MHz)
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Cooling AMD 8150 Factory Water Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 16 GB 1333 MHz PC3-10666 240-Pin DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG MATRIX-R9290X-P-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Storage SanDisk Ultra II 480GB, INTEL SS DSC2BW240A4, Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKX-003CA0
Display(s) Acer S211HL bd 21.5-Inch Widescreen Ultra-Slim LED Display - Black
Case COOLER MASTER Elite 335 Upgraded RC-335U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power Supply Corsair RM Series 850 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified Power Supply - CP-9020056-NA RM850
Software Windows 10.0 Pro 64 Bit

Wayward

New Member
Joined
May 23, 2007
Messages
235 (0.06/day)
Likes
10
Processor Core 2 Q9450 775/Yorkfield @ 3.2Ghz
Motherboard DFI Lanparty DK P35-T2RS
Cooling Zalman CNPS 9700 NT
Memory 4x2GB Corsair XMS2-DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon HD4870 1024MB GDDR5
Storage Seagate 7200.10 500GB SATA2
Display(s) 2x 19" LG LCD
Case Raidmax Scorpio (modified)
Audio Device(s) Audigy2 ZS Platinum
Power Supply Kingwin Mach 1 1220w
#67

AsRock

TPU addict
Joined
Jun 23, 2007
Messages
15,317 (4.00/day)
Likes
4,724
Location
US
Processor 2500k \ 3770k
Motherboard ASRock Z68 \ Z77
Memory Samsung low profile 1600
Video Card(s) XFX 6770 \ XFX R9 290X
Storage Intel 80Gb (SATA2) WD 250Gb \ Team SSD+Samsung Evo 250Gb+500Gb+ 2xCorsair Force+WD250GbHDD
Display(s) Samsung 1080P \ Toshiba HDTV 1080P
Case HTPC400 \ Thermaltake Armor case ( original ), With Zalman fan controller ( wattage usage ).
Audio Device(s) Yamaha RX-V475 \ Marantz SR5008 Tannoy Mercury MKII Paradigm 5SE + Tannoy Mercury F4
Power Supply PC&Power 750w \ Seasonic 750w MKII
Mouse MS intelimouse \ Logitech G700s + Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard Logitech K120 \ ROCCAT MK Pro ( modded amber leds )
Benchmark Scores Meh benchmarks.
#68
But who else can do this theres not very many companies out there except for a handful that are just like Microsoft:laugh::laugh::laugh:

And no they won't get taken to Court because I don't tyhink that thjey would have had those automatically updated unless they knew with 99.99999999999999999999999% certainty that there wouldn't be any problems with theses updates screwing up peoples computers:roll::roll:

They still have no right to change things. Who said they could gamble if one of the updates could course people problems or not. It's not for them to say.

Yes i think it's wrong and i know many others who do too. Shame they cannot make other things work so well as this update(s).

BUT whats is worse if M$ can do this ANY BODY can.

They did not update my system as Outpost Firewall blocks every thing i don't want.