Microsoft Pulls Windows 11 24H2 from Release Preview Channel, Build Riddled with Bugs

[john_]

Yes but frankly, this is fine with me if they really are using POPCNT for some performance benefit. If it were up to me, they'd maintain a "legacy edition" though for ancient hardware, but meh.

I would preferred Windows 11 to just refuse to upgrade, but from what I understood when reading about the upgrade, Windows 11 will happily do the update and then refuse to boot.
I had found a dozen Core2Duo desktops in the public school I work, still working, ready to go for recycling. They have some newer systems with 4th gen Core i5s in their lab, but those old Core2Duos are capable enough and fast enough for typical school work and library and teacher offices do lack some systems. Was thinking installing an SSD and Windows 11 Educational on them, to make them look current (average user seeing Windows 11 will think the PCs are new, not 15+ years old), but now I guess I will have to chose Windows 10 that will see it's support ending in the end of 2025.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Just do Linux people... if you care for safety, telemetry, copilots... install it on a spare M.2 slot and dual boot it and slowly learn and adapt.

 

[ymdhis]

No other company could get away with making their products worse every year and stuffing them with ads.

Google can and does.

 

[R-T-B]

I wonder if the LTSC edition also has Rust in the kernel, and if this will be improved over time or left as is.

My bet is that is included, but who knows.

 

[tpa-pr]

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You can count me into that metric now. Recall was the last straw for me and it seems it was the right choice. Watching the way Microsoft handles Windows these days is getting embarrassing.

 

[Broken Processor]

Yeah curious thing my window's update is set to security updates only but I still got this somehow and it has caused a weird boot issue where it takes minutes to boot because startup programs crash. A rollback hasn't fixed it nor a windows corruption scan so guess what I'll be doing at the weekend. Honestly if Linux could run games with anti cheat I'd leave windows for good.

 

[TheDeeGee]

And every month a post like this about Win 11 pops up, it's why won't bother with it until Win 10 is 100% dead.

 

[stimpy88]

Wow, Microsoft finally bowed to public opinion and pressure and admitted that they no longer have the people and skills to create a service pack! After all, we all know they haven't made a new OS since Vista.

 

[chrcoluk]

Apparently in UK copilot+ will be optional and off by default, they hit some kind of privacy concern which the regulators were going to look into. Since the UK wont have its own build I expect it will be the same for all of the EU.

Just do Linux people... if you care for safety, telemetry, copilots... install it on a spare M.2 slot and dual boot it and slowly learn and adapt.

When Windows 10 gets to the point its not viable to use it anymore, my plan is likely a dual boot, Linux for main use, so media consumption, work and browsing, Windows 11/12 or whatever version it is just for playing games that require Windows.

 

[dgianstefani]

My bet is that is included, but who knows.

I am curious if that Rust integration is what caused all the bugs. I would expect something that major to be suspect.

 

[Caring1]

Did they try turning it off, then on again?
Perhaps "recall" can help them.

 

[NoneRain]

Classic Microsoft.
Devs are more worried with their Twitter accs than with their job...

 

[ScaLibBDP]

Ah yes bugs,roaches,lice,ticks,spyware,spiders,keyloggers,crickets,backdoors,centipedes,etc..

I like 10 it's stable and works.

I still use Windows XP Professional ( 32-bit ) on one of my development Desktop ( for compatibility verifications ) and Windows 7 Professional ( 64-bit ) on my primary Dell Precision Mobile Workstation.

No any plans to upgrade to Windows 10 or Windows 11.

 

[R-T-B]

I am curious if that Rust integration is what caused all the bugs. I would expect something that major to be suspect.

I'm more thinking it was the ease of which recall could be activated on unsecure hardware.

Not that its ever a good thing to turn on, but meh...

 

[Raptor_i]

I'll wait for Windows 11 iot ltsc 24h2.

 

[R-T-B]

I'll wait for Windows 11 iot ltsc 24h2.

I've been trialing it. It's out now. Probably the only 24h2 image in full release.

Getting it without enterprise agreements is going to be iffy though. Even with, expensive, I expect.

 

[kilo]

Just do Linux people... if you care for safety, telemetry, copilots... install it on a spare M.2 slot and dual boot it and slowly learn and adapt.

I switched last Saturday. Got most applications working/installed last night. It's never been easier than now to move to linux.

 

[R-T-B]

I switched last Saturday. Got most applications working/installed last night. It's never been easier than now to move to linux.

This is true. The HDR mess is all that keeps me away. Yes I know you can technically do HDR now but windows is just better at it.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Yeah I can’t think of any other company that has a blind loyalty user base that will only buy their products no matter what competing companies release.

You're kidding right? I could think of a half dozen without even trying.

Apple
Bachmann
Chase bank
Disney
Electronic Arts
Fiat Chrysler

I could go on.

 

[ARF]

No other company could get away with making their products worse every year and stuffing them with ads.

What stops them to make Windows 12 with the Windows 7 user interface, Aero, rich Start menu, and all other available applications, settings, features, while quietly updating it to the most recent DX 12.2 support, automatic scaling according to the connected screen, fast DirectStorage, and other things in order to benefit from DDR5/DDR6, PCIe 5.0/6.0, WiFi 7/8, etc. ?

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

What stops them to make Windows 12 with the Windows 7 user interface, Aero, rich Start menu, and all other available applications, settings, features, while quietly updating it to the most recent DX 12.2 support, automatic scaling according to the connected screen, fast DirectStorage, and other things in order to benefit from DDR5/DDR6, PCIe 5.0/6.0, WiFi 7/8, etc. ?

Telemetry and trackers for their “partners.” They’d have to go back to making people pay for upgrades to prop it up, but honestly, with how W11 dumped heaps of old hardware, what difference does it make? They’ll have a fragmented user base not seen since they tried to kill Xp. Millions will upgrade, but millions will not.

 

[ARF]

Telemetry and trackers for their “partners.” They’d have to go back to making people pay for upgrades to prop it up, but honestly, with how W11 dumped heaps of old hardware, what difference does it make? They’ll have a fragmented user base not seen since they tried to kill Xp. Millions will upgrade, but millions will not.

I am sure that all the Windows 10 users will upgrade to a new version, only if it is good enough. Windows 11 is a failure, that's why so few people make a conscious decision to update to it.
Postponing the next Windows won't help Windows 11, actually it will make matters worse, as more and more return to Windows 10.

 

[R-T-B]

What stops them to make Windows 12 with the Windows 7 user interface, Aero, rich Start menu, and all other available applications, settings, features, while quietly updating it to the most recent DX 12.2 support, automatic scaling according to the connected screen, fast DirectStorage, and other things in order to benefit from DDR5/DDR6, PCIe 5.0/6.0, WiFi 7/8, etc. ?

A corporate culture of "gotta change things for the sake of change" that seems deeply entrenched at Microsoft, mainly.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I am sure that all the Windows 10 users will upgrade to a new version, only if it is good enough. Windows 11 is a failure, that's why so few people make a conscious decision to update to it.
Postponing the next Windows won't help Windows 11, actually it will make matters worse, as more and more return to Windows 10.

I don't know that most people care about new UIs and new Start Menus. Most people I know either at work or personally usually hate it when stuff changes. That includes like when Instagram changes their algorithms, or they cram AI features where no one felt they were needed. It's why it's extra strange that MS is dumping all those users. Only the enthusiast gets excited for a new OS, and they're even hard at work killing that excitement by turning their biggest supporters into bug testers.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

What stops them to make Windows 12 with the Windows 7 user interface, Aero, rich Start menu, and all other available applications, settings, features, while quietly updating it to the most recent DX 12.2 support, automatic scaling according to the connected screen, fast DirectStorage, and other things in order to benefit from DDR5/DDR6, PCIe 5.0/6.0, WiFi 7/8, etc. ?

Because they can make any changes they want, ram them down your throat, and tell you that you wanted them, with 0 recourse. And given themajority of corporate leaders are dickbags, why WOULDNT they do that?

The last decade has proven that most corporations HATE their consumers and see them as no more then walking wallets.