Motherboard Vendors Optimistic about High Price-Performance Ratio of AMD Ryzen

MLScrow · Dec 29, 2016

TheLaughingMan said:
Rumor mill stated that the spacing for the holes is exactly the same so all current coolers that work with AM3 socket will work with AM4.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...will_not_be_compatible_with_old_cpu_coolers/1

R-T-B · Dec 30, 2016

john_ said:
Considering that Pascal is just Maxwell on 16nm

It's similar yes, but not the same by any means. I feel this statement is very misleading.

john_ · Dec 31, 2016

R-T-B said:
It's similar yes, but not the same by any means. I feel this statement is very misleading.

I guess someone must be an Nvidia engineer to know how much misleading that is, or if it is very close to the truth. Considering that Nvidia was promising async support through drivers for Maxwell based cards and that other technologies like Ansel are software based, I would say that Pascal is pretty much a Maxwell shrink, with updated drivers and a nice touch of marketing. There are going to be some optimizations to the design, especially the part where it let's the gpu clock higher, but other than that I doubt.

R-T-B · Dec 31, 2016

john_ said:
I guess someone must be an Nvidia engineer to know how much misleading that is, or if it is very close to the truth. Considering that Nvidia was promising async support through drivers for Maxwell based cards and that other technologies like Ansel are software based, I would say that Pascal is pretty much a Maxwell shrink, with updated drivers and a nice touch of marketing. There are going to be some optimizations to the design, especially the part where it let's the gpu clock higher, but other than that I doubt.

Async is supported in Pascal. Maxwell cards are where it is not. It just provides no gains on Pascal because pascal is a small, serial, efficient architecture, whereas on Maxwell, enabling it actaully HURTS performance.

john_ · Dec 31, 2016

R-T-B said:
Async is supported in Pascal. Maxwell cards are where it is not. It just provides no gains on Pascal because pascal is a small, serial, efficient architecture, whereas on Maxwell, enabling it actaully HURTS performance.

In software or in hardware? And don't tell me what Nvidia's slides say. Look, this is the wrong thread to play ping pong about Pascal's support or "support" of async. So, let's just stop here and

wish you a happy new year :toast:

R-T-B · Dec 31, 2016

john_ said:
In software or in hardware? And don't tell me what Nvidia's slides say. Look, this is the wrong thread to play ping pong about Pascal's support or "support" of async. So, let's just stop here and

wish you a happy new year

I would say a software solution would have to hurt performance, but agreed.

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System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 7950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64

System Name	3 desktop systems: Gaming / Internet / HTPC
Processor	Ryzen 5 5500 / Ryzen 5 4600G / FX 6300 (12 years latter got to see how bad Bulldozer is)
Motherboard	MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (1) / MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max (2) / Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3
Cooling	Νoctua U12S / Segotep T4 / Snowman M-T6
Memory	16GB G.Skill RIPJAWS 3600 / 16GB G.Skill Aegis 3200 / 16GB Kingston 2400MHz (DDR3)
Video Card(s)	ASRock RX 6600 + GT 710 (PhysX)/ Vega 7 integrated / Radeon RX 580
Storage	NVMes, NVMes everywhere / NVMes, more NVMes / Various storage, SATA SSD mostly
Display(s)	Philips 43PUS8857/12 UHD TV (120Hz, HDR, FreeSync Premium) ---- 19'' HP monitor + BlitzWolf BW-V5
Case	Sharkoon Rebel 12 / Sharkoon Rebel 9 / Xigmatek Midguard
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	Chieftec 850W / Silver Power 400W / Sharkoon 650W
Mouse	CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / Coolermaster Devastator / Logitech
Keyboard	CoolerMaster Devastator III Plus / Coolermaster Devastator / Logitech
Software	Windows 10 / Windows 10 / Windows 7

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 7950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64

Motherboard Vendors Optimistic about High Price-Performance Ratio of AMD Ryzen

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