Mouse and keyboard

[uco73]

Look at the peripherals I have. The mouse and keyboard are wireless. They become depleted over time and must be recharged. This leads to the conclusion that they have a battery. It is known that every battery has a lifespan. Now I wonder what will happen when that battery can no longer be charged. Does this mean that both the mouse and keyboard will become wired instead of wireless peripherals?

 

[Bill_Bright]

This leads to the conclusion that they have a battery.

Sorry. No disrespect meant. But the fact the mouse and keyboard are "wireless" is what should have led you to the conclusion they use batteries.

Now I wonder what will happen when that battery can no longer be charged. Does this mean that both the mouse and keyboard will become wired instead of wireless peripherals?

According the reviews I can find, both your mouse and keyboard do support wired mode operation, as well as wireless. My "guess", to answer your question, depends on how the battery fails.

If the battery, after [hopefully] 100s and 100s of recharges just gets tired and too weak to hold a charge (the typical end result with rechargeable batteries), the device "should" keep working in wired mode.

HOWEVER, some batteries fail by developing an internal short. And if that happens, it is likely the device will not work, even in wired mode because the voltage require to operate is being shorted back to ground.

Hopefully, for that kind of money, both the keyboard and mouse will give you many years of quality service and will be retired or replaced by you for other reasons, besides the battery failing.

 

[uco73]

Mouse and keyboard work normally when connected by cable while charging. But cable is very rigid and not elastic.

Anyway, many thanks for responding.

 

[Bill_Bright]

But cable is very rigid and not elastic.

Not a problem with the keyboard but that would be unacceptable with a mouse. Personally, I don't like wired mice, even with light and very flexible cables.

Well, hopefully yours lasts many years. Fingers crossed.

 

[sneekypeet]

Two things....

The batteries are replaceable, but you have to open the devices to do this.
You can buy custom cables to fix the rigidity.

 

[Bill_Bright]

The batteries are replaceable

Are they "user replaceable"? Or hard-wired/soldered in?

You can buy custom cables to fix the rigidity.

Same question - are they hard-wired in?

 

[Lei]

@uco73
Do not store your devices with empty battery.

That is if you're not using a mouse or keyboard for weeks, make sure to charge them before you leave them alone.

 

[sneekypeet]

I reviewed a ton of peripherals and all internally battery powered options used a two pin plug that is user friendly.

 

[Shrek]

I just use hardwired keyboards and mice, replacing switches and cables as I go; just can't stand one extra thing to take care of (batteries).

 

[BlaezaLite]

I refuse to use wireless keyboards, mice or joypads. I like the security of a cable, until my kitten eats through it.

 

[Remeca]

The mouse looks pretty easy, keyboard looks like a ribbon cable maybe. Pics from TPU articles.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I refuse to use wireless keyboards, mice or joypads. I like the security of a cable

Years ago, security might have been a problem for a few in certain scenarios. But these days, AES Encrypted Wireless devices are easy to fine.

I think it also important to remember for the data exchange between your keyboard and computer to be compromised, the bad guy must essentially have physical access at your location. This is because the effective range for such BT and RF devices is very limited. So even if your devices do not support AES Encryption, you have to ask yourself, how likely is a bad guy going to get that close without you being aware of him/her? If you work in a crowded office with 30 cubicles around you, then maybe that will be an issue. In your home? Not likely.

That said, if the bad guy has that level of access, you have bigger problems than the data between your keyboard and computer being compromised.

 

[Lei]

My keyboard uses two AAAs, but I juice it with LiPo

 

[Remeca]

My keyboard uses two AAAs, but I juice it with LiPo

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Does the software show the battery level or is there a LVC?

 

[Lei]

Does the software show the battery level or is there a LVC?

Nope, keyboard front light blinks red when battery is near finished.

I added a charging board:

batteries could last for 2 months, LiPo works much longer

 

[P4-630]

I use a Rapoo 5Ghz wireless keyboard, it uses 2AA batteries and they last long (1 year+), I use duracell, same with my wireless xbox controller.

 

[bonehead123]

I have several Logi G613's, which are all used for an average of 6-8 hrs/day x 6 days/week, in which I use the PinkBunny AA Lithiums, and the last time I changed them was about 2 years ago

My MX Masters, which are used along with the above 613's, usually will last about 6-8 weeks on a charge....

#CordedPeriphsBeGone4Eva#

 

[Bill_Bright]

I use a Rapoo 5Ghz wireless keyboard, it uses 2AA batteries and they last long (1 year+), I use duracell

My Microsoft 5050 keyboard also uses 2AA and also gives me ~1+ year support. There is a little red LED indicator light on the keyboard that will light when I need to replace them.

I avoid Duracell AA and AAA batteries (and their Costco/Kirtland rebranded versions) as much as possible. I've had more problems with leaking Duracell batteries over the years than any other brand.

Now, I typically use rechargeable Nimh (Nickel Metal Hydride) or Member's Mark (Sam's Club) batteries, which are made by the pink bunny . The rechargeables don't typically last as long as non-rechargeables before they need to be recharged, but they don't end up in the trash and landfills either - at least not right away, as frequently, or in the massive quantities as regular alkaline batteries.

 

[P4-630]

I've had more problems with leaking Duracell batteries over the years than any other brand.

No issues with that here, btw there are various Duracell AA type batteries, I'm using "Duracell Plus" at the moment, before that I used Duracell Industrial.

If I had leaking onces from some brand I wouldn't buy them anymore either.

 

[AsRock]

My Microsoft 5050 keyboard also uses 2AA and also gives me ~1+ year support. There is a little red LED indicator light on the keyboard that will light when I need to replace them.

I avoid Duracell AA and AAA batteries (and their Costco/Kirtland rebranded versions) as much as possible. I've had more problems with leaking Duracell batteries over the years than any other brand.

Now, I typically use rechargeable Nimh (Nickel Metal Hydride) or Member's Mark (Sam's Club) batteries, which are made by the pink bunny . The rechargeables don't typically last as long as non-rechargeables before they need to be recharged, but they don't end up in the trash and landfills either - at least not right away, as frequently, or in the massive quantities as regular alkaline batteries.

Yeah dam those Duracell and the rechargeable have been terrible as well, never used to have a issue with them but over the last 6-7 years they are trash and just ride on the name of what they used to be.

 

[P4-630]

Well the Duracell I buy here are from the Duracell factory Belgium, no issues at all!

Duracell and the rechargeable

Ok I don't have Duracell rechargeables though, don't know about that.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I have never used Duracell rechargeables either. But it should be noted that rechargeables use a different chemical process, typically Nimh, and not alkaline. I don't believe Nimh batteries are prone to leaking.

 

[sLowEnd]

Duracell switches OEMs from time to time. idk if they still use rebranded Enelooops these days, but the ones that were rebranded Eneloops are/were good.

I haven't purchased any rechargeables other than Ikea's for years now though, since they're the cheapest and most consistent source of rebranded Eneloops available AFAIK

 

[AsRock]

I have never used Duracell rechargeables either. But it should be noted that rechargeables use a different chemical process, typically Nimh, and not alkaline. I don't believe Nimh batteries are prone to leaking.

Never had the rechargables leak but they don't seem to last as long as others say LA Crosse or eneloop, they are older then the dura rechargeable and still going strong were the duracell ones i have had several of them fail and all are in low power usage items like thermistates and remotes etc.

 

[OkieDan]

It's best to use low-self-discharge (LSD) batteries for devices that don't drain batteries fast, like keyboards, mice, TV remotes. Precharged rechargeable batteries are typically, if not always, LSD.