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MSI Betrays AMD's Socket AM4 Longevity Promise: No Zen2 for 300-series?

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No, they aren't.

I'm talking about r/etailers doing the UEFI upgrades for their customers.
 
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One would think dealers could pre-flash their stock?
The answer to this depends on what part of the world you're in. "Pre-flashing", by law, renders an item as "used" and can no longer be sold as new in some areas. Should a dealer offer to flash a motherboard at the time of sale? Of course.
 
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true for people already on ryzen, not true for people wanting to get into 3rd gen, without getting x570

the x470 and b450 refresh boards will be flowing out soon enough, for 'value' ryzen 3000 options
Sure it is. The existing B450, X470, B350 and X370 boards are and have been shipping with updated firmware. So if you want to upgrade an existing system, flash and go. If you're buying new, you're still good to go as long as you verify that the board you're buying has Ryzen 3xxx support.

One would think dealers could pre-flash their stock?
I needed to do that on one board we had in inventory, but had a spare R5-1600 to do it with. All of the rest have been good to go.
 
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Thought I'd share about my X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM:

 

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Sure it is. The existing B450, X470, B350 and X370 boards are and have been shipping with updated firmware. So if you want to upgrade an existing system, flash and go. If you're buying new, you're still good to go as long as you verify that the board you're buying has Ryzen 3xxx support.


I needed to do that on one board we had in inventory, but had a spare R5-1600 to do it with. All of the rest have been good to go.

around here if you order online, you'd never know if you got an updated board or not until it arrived - and you cant return it because you didnt get the preflashed one.
 
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Thought I'd share about my X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM:

That debloated beta BIOS fixed a lot of bugs on my B350 board. It's awesome and I don't want to return to the stupid previous version ever again.
If they get to add RAID again on it, it will be perfect.
 

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some of the high quality retailers are now specifying which products have 3000 bios support from the manuf, but if they dont state it, you wont know.

So far i've seen just this one board with support added
 
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some of the high quality retailers are now specifying which products have 3000 bios support from the manuf, but if they dont state it, you wont know.

So far i've seen just this one board with support added
Maybe more will follow with that declaration. Hopefully anyway.
 
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