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MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming Z 8 GB

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The MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming Z comes at NVIDIA Founders Edition pricing of $600, yet beats that card in every regard. The cooler is whisper-quiet during even heavy gaming sessions, and when not loaded, the fans turn off completely because of the idle-fan-stop feature.

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$600...for the runt of the litter.

Yeah, No thanks.

Go home Nvidia/MSI, you're drunk, these things aren't worth a bean over $400.
 

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What is the point of the rewards under "Value & Conclusion" when 85% of reviewed products gets an award?
 
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What is the point of the rewards under "Value & Conclusion" when 85% of reviewed products gets an award?
You mean 99,9%
 
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Oh joy, new graphics card review :toast:

Minuscule 2015MHz, now I have to doubt your OC methods. Surely the card is not that bad to OC? Not really representative when "Binned" A chip loses to non-A chip. But yeah I reckon you use the same method for every card, so in that pov it's a fair comparison. Btw. have you tried that Precision X1 and auto OC scanner?
 
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$600...for the runt of the litter.

Yeah, No thanks.

Go home Nvidia/MSI, you're drunk, these things aren't worth a bean over $400.
Sounds great, but then everything slower needs to be well under $400 too.
 
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Gtx 1070 is around 400. Rtx 2070 base starts at 500.a little die shrink around 20% performance increase with around 30% power increase along with cards now taking up 3 slots... have nvdia really gone forwards within 2 years of Gtx 1070 launch or backwards....
 
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Had it been 10nm as by initial design, this would be different. +500Mhz, 120 watt TDP and 2060 price tag whatever that may be nowadays, 400$.... not a 20% increase, unless you mean CUDA core. Delivers 42% on average, or upto 69% in WF2 thanks to memory bandwidth +75% and async.
 
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A pre-owned 1080ti sells for less than the current UK RRP of the RTX 2070 on ebay here in the UK.


This card should honestly be cheaper maybe £400 or just over that at a stretch.
 
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around 30% power increase
You want, near 1080Ti performance with a 2060 that costs 300 $ and has a 120W TDP ? Good luck finding that in the near future.
Stick to 1080p and a RX580/GTX1060 if your budget is tight, otherwise you have to pay a premium for anything higher than that like 1440, 144Hz, 4K, Ultra details etc.
 
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This is essentially playing with TDP to allow for higher boost clock. I'm glad it got the thumbs down it deserves, that alone is not worth the $100 price hike.

Also, I'm only noticing now, but holy cow, what's with the multi-monitor power draw? I thought we've fixed this problem years ago.
 
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This is essentially playing with TDP to allow for higher boost clock. I'm glad it got the thumbs down it deserves, that alone is not worth the $100 price hike.

Also, I'm only noticing now, but holy cow, what's with the multi-monitor power draw? I thought we've fixed this problem years ago.
Wonder if undervolting and messing with voltage curve will work with it. Ain't that were the thing with pascal OC too.

And yeah Turings multi-monitor power consumption is mystery. Somehow I don't think the reason is tmds on turing, maybe gddr6 or imc needs higher clocks than were needed with gddr5/5x.
 
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I guess I was naive when my expactation of new rtx 2070.was around gTX 1060 power usage and gtx 1080ti performance levels before launch of rtx series and waiting for 2 years....
 
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I guess I was naive when my expactation of new rtx 2070.was around gTX 1060 power usage and gtx 1080ti performance levels before launch of rtx series and waiting for 2 years....
You were naive indeed. Never has a new video card matched the performance of an old video card 2 tiers above it while also matching the power draw of an old card one tier below it.
 
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I want a GPU that costs $100 with equal or higher than 1080Ti performance and quiet as night breeze with <100Watt power draw please!

Oh and it better be able to overclock twice its original stock clock.

And still gonna bitch about evil NVIDIA, cause they are EVIL!
 
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I want a GPU that costs $100 with equal or higher than 1080Ti performance and quiet as night breeze with <100Watt power draw please!

Oh and it better be able to overclock twice its original stock clock.

And still gonna bitch about evil NVIDIA, cause they are EVIL!
The guy is probably just new to video cards, let's not scare him away ;)
 
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I want a GPU that costs $100 with equal or higher than 1080Ti performance and quiet as night breeze with <100Watt power draw please!

Oh and it better be able to overclock twice its original stock clock.

And still gonna bitch about evil NVIDIA, cause they are EVIL!
your sarcasm is justified.. :)

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Yeah power consumption straddling the mighty RX 580 whilst offering 85 to 100% more performance. Let's see what the 590 does after two years.
 
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Perhaps you should look at reviews from gtx 1070 when first launched not venture far away, right here in techpowerup. You will see gtx 1070 less power then gtx 980 but higher performance then gtx 980ti.
 
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Perhaps you should look at reviews from gtx 1070 when first launched not venture far away, right here in techpowerup. You will see gtx 1070 less power then gtx 980 but higher performance then gtx 980ti.
You were asking for performance of the 980Ti and the power draw of the 960 though.
 
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You were asking for performance of the 980Ti and the power draw of the 960 though.
Yes, compared to 960, 1070 was consuming more power but still less then 970, and performance wise better way better then 980ti. I never said below I said around, key word being here is around, and more importantly less then. we can have this conversation going for days. important point is that 1070, was better performing to not only 980 but as well 980 ti. which you claim was not possible. at the end of the day, I was expecting the new RTX to consume less power then their previous generation and better performance with one tier above from previous generation. Perhaps Nvidia was so smooth and efficient they spoilt us past couple of years with their launches...
 
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Yes, compared to 960, 1070 was consuming more power but still less then 970, and performance wise better way better then 980ti. I never said below I said around, key word being here is around, and more importantly less then.
Dafuq?
we can have this conversation going for days. important point is that 1070, was better performing to not only 980 but as well 980 ti. which you claim was not possible. at the end of the day, I was expecting the new RTX to consume less power then their previous generation and better performance with one tier above from previous generation. Perhaps Nvidia was so smooth and efficient they spoilt us past couple of years with their launches...
You were expecting a card having 33% more transistors and manufactured using virtually the same fabrication node (12nm is not that different) to draw less power? Really?
 
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yes i was expecting lesser power draw then the previous generation and more performance from a tier above from last generation. this is what Nvdia has been doing prior to RTX for the last half decade and been pretty good at it. perhaps we are spoilt. but after 2 years of preparing and die shrink I would have expected more, the world did. perhaps you have not. your choice.
 
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yes i was expecting lesser power draw then the previous generation and more performance from a tier above from last generation. this is what Nvdia has been doing prior to RTX for the last half decade and been pretty good at it. perhaps we are spoilt. but after 2 years of preparing and die shrink I would have expected more, the world did. perhaps you have not. your choice.
Fair enough.
 
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