• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

MSI HD 5770 Hawk 1024 MB GDDR5

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,025 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,885
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#1
MSI's new HD 5770 Hawk is designed to deliver extra features to overclockers. Its TwinFrozr dual fan offers plenty of cooling power to keep the card cool during overclocking, yet runs extremely quiet. As added bonus for tweakers, MSI has included easy to use V-Check voltage measurement points on their PCB and an overclock out of the box.

Show full review
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
4,014 (0.98/day)
Likes
477
Location
Hong Kong
Processor AMD FX-8350 @4.8Ghz
Motherboard Asrock 990FX Extreme9
Cooling CoolerMaster Seidon 120XL
Memory A-RAM DDR3 2000
Video Card(s) PowerColor HD7970 3GB V3
Storage OCZ Vertex 3 120G + Max IOPS 120G + Seagate 7200.12 250GB *2 Raid 0 + Samsung HD103UJ 1TB *2 RAID 0
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster S24B370
Case SilverStone Raven RV01
Power Supply Corsair TX850W
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
#2
Not very impressive at all for this price premium.

Nice review anyways.
 
Joined
Sep 9, 2009
Messages
968 (0.32/day)
Likes
172
Location
Slovenia, Europe
System Name Bang4Buck
Processor Intel Core i7 5820K @ 4.5Ghz @ 1.254v
Motherboard ASROCK X99M-EXTREME4
Cooling EKWB Predator 240 1.1
Memory 16gb 2666mhz 14-14-14-34-1T @ 1.28v
Video Card(s) Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 Golden Sample with GLH bios flased
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 250Gb / 6Tb Raid -HGST Enterprise/ Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb / Seagate Baraccuda 3Tb
Display(s) Samsung UE49KS8002 4K (US - 9 series)
Case Corsair Carbide Air 540
Audio Device(s) HDMI out to Denon reciever
Power Supply Seasonic X-750W (KM3)
Keyboard Logitech K520
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores RealBench 2.43: 164477 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14858144? http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14857974?
#3
W1zzard i am confused, on page 4 of this review, you state this:
This is AMD's new Cedar GPU, it comes with 1040 million transistors and is produced on a 40 nm process at TSMC Taiwan. The die size is 170 mm².
But on the review of the sapphire HD5770 Vapor-x, you state:
This is AMD's new Juniper GPU, it comes with 1040 million transistors, and is produced on a 40 nm process at TSMC Taiwan.
Does this mean, the cards use different GPUs, or is it just a mistake(Typo)?
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,096 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,523
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#4
heky: typo for sure.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,025 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,885
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#5
typo .. fixed
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2005
Messages
9,781 (2.23/day)
Likes
3,772
Location
Manchester, NH
System Name Working on it ;)
Processor I7-4790K
Motherboard MSI Z97
Cooling Be Quiet Pure Rock Air
Memory 16GB 4x4 G.Skill CAS9 2133 Sniper
Video Card(s) Intel IGP (Dedicated GPU TBD)
Storage WD 320 / 500KS / 500KS / 640KS / 640LS / 640LS / 640LS / 1TBFAEX and a NAS with 2x2Tb WD Black
Display(s) 24" DELL 2405FPW
Case Rosewill Challenger
Audio Device(s) Onboard + HD HDMI
Power Supply Corsair HX750 (love it)
Mouse Logitech G5
Software Win 7 Pro
#6
That's an insane OC on the memory... :toast: I can't get more than 1300 on my 5870, I think the GDDR5 chips are identical.

I didn't see anything about bumping the Vmem, or perhaps I missed it.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,025 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,885
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#7
vmem wasnt changed and can not be changed via software
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2009
Messages
299 (0.10/day)
Likes
34
#8
I would love to see GPU only OC compared to GPU+memory OC. :) Cause I think GDDR5 are quite overspeced for this GPU - eg. you gain nothing by OCing it.

Not much headroom for price paid.. I wonder, why only 1.35V? 1.45 - 1.5V would be much better.. (maybe make that just BIOS unlockable, so BFUs cant fry it).

Its nice card, nice review.. but it bit doesn´t seem worth its price. Vapor-X Sapphire seems a bit more friendly.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,025 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,885
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#9
1.35V is the limit of the voltage regulator used, no way to unlock it via bios. you could probably do a soldering hardmod on the controller to get more
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2009
Messages
299 (0.10/day)
Likes
34
#10
1.35V is the limit of the voltage regulator used, no way to unlock it via bios. you could probably do a soldering hardmod on the controller to get more
I know, my point is, if they want to make cards for OCers, they should do it properly. This is bit "half-done".
 

MKmods

Case Mod Guru
Joined
Feb 26, 2008
Messages
5,697 (1.59/day)
Likes
1,735
Location
Nevada
System Name Crossflow III
Processor AMD 965 (4.04Ghz)
Motherboard Asus Crosshair III
Cooling Air
Memory 4 gigs Mushkin 7-7-7-20@1T
Video Card(s) single 9800GT
Storage Raptor 150's in Raid0
Display(s) LG Flatron 24"
Case Custom
Audio Device(s) AuzenTech X-Raider W/OP637
Power Supply Custom modded Corsair 750HX
Software Win 7 64/Solaris Utility
Benchmark Scores 3DMark06--21963 so far
#11
While the cooler is really nice, the price is too dam high..
 
Last edited:

Kitkat

New Member
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
768 (0.25/day)
Likes
75
#12
I know, my point is, if they want to make cards for OCers, they should do it properly. This is bit "half-done".
i think most ppl will GET that its not an extreme card. the aftermarket cooler (quiet) is all your paying for u get the "super oc" software because its easy to burn a cd... but the price is still kinda high but they can do that under the Just because act or 1770.


good review wiz
 

plopke

New Member
Joined
Feb 6, 2010
Messages
1 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#13
Sapphire Vapor-X or Hawk

Hello are there any temperature readings from the 5770 vapor-x and Hawk review?

My goal is having a quiet gaming machine and still wondering if I should get one of the following:
Sapphire 5770 vapor-x , MSI 5770 Hawk , 5770 Asus CuCore or just a 5770 Asus with the egg shaped cooler.

My knowledge is very limited so have some other questions to.

You can just use ATI's latest drivers even if the PCB , and coolers are completly custom ?

Not really a fan of MSI and Sapphire(it shipping vapor-x cards with wrong bios , does not improve that fact ). But willing to give them a second change.

PS Any reviews of Asus CuCore 5770 coming?
 
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Messages
2,793 (0.93/day)
Likes
835
Location
Midwest USA
System Name My Gaming System
Processor Intel i7 4770k @ 4.4 Ghz
Motherboard Asus Maximus VI Impact (ITX)
Cooling Custom Full System Water cooling Loop
Memory G.Skill 1866 Mhz Sniper 8 Gb
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 780 ti SC
Storage Samsung SSD EVO 120GB - Samsung SSD EVO 500GB
Display(s) ASUS W246H - 24" - widescreen TFT active matrix LCD
Case Bitfenix Prodigy
Power Supply Corsair AX760 Modular PSU
Software Windows 8.1 Home Primeum
#14
Nice review although not to hot on the card!

I am all about loving the ATI 500 series as being a 5870 owner myself but..... AMD's refusal to allow any overclocking of these chips is just ridiculous. Sure the distributer are getting a little better with that but.... not by much. Most of the 5000 series can overlcok like a SOB if they had room to gal ope. But because ATI and friends don't let them do it is very disappointing!

The only reason I can see why they AMD/ATI doesn't wan't us to be bale to do any real overclocking with them is because of maybe a refresh down the road. I mean why let us overclock our cards really hi that would hinder the sales then of the refresh. If we could just overclock to the same speed.

Although I wonder if Femi turns out to be as powerful as they say..... I don't think a souped up 5870 to a 5890 will be able to cut it on just a faster clock speed alone!

Personally I think ATI needs to loosen up on the reigns a little bit! Let us see what these cards can actually do!

190 bucks for a not so souped up 5770 .... verdict..... not worth the money!
 

MKmods

Case Mod Guru
Joined
Feb 26, 2008
Messages
5,697 (1.59/day)
Likes
1,735
Location
Nevada
System Name Crossflow III
Processor AMD 965 (4.04Ghz)
Motherboard Asus Crosshair III
Cooling Air
Memory 4 gigs Mushkin 7-7-7-20@1T
Video Card(s) single 9800GT
Storage Raptor 150's in Raid0
Display(s) LG Flatron 24"
Case Custom
Audio Device(s) AuzenTech X-Raider W/OP637
Power Supply Custom modded Corsair 750HX
Software Win 7 64/Solaris Utility
Benchmark Scores 3DMark06--21963 so far
#15
Hello are there any temperature readings from the 5770 vapor-x and Hawk review?

My goal is having a quiet gaming machine and still wondering if I should get one of the following:
Sapphire 5770 vapor-x , MSI 5770 Hawk , 5770 Asus CuCore or just a 5770 Asus with the egg shaped cooler.

My knowledge is very limited so have some other questions to.

You can just use ATI's latest drivers even if the PCB , and coolers are completly custom ?

Not really a fan of MSI and Sapphire(it shipping vapor-x cards with wrong bios , does not improve that fact ). But willing to give them a second change.

PS Any reviews of Asus CuCore 5770 coming?
ANY of the 5770s are fine for a gaming comp. The VaporX and Hawk coolers are the best of the bunch though and are quieter as well.(personally I like the Hawk , but not the price)

The reference 5770 coolers arent loud under normal use but if you crank up the fans for extra cooling thats where the noise becomes quite loud.

Always use the latest drivers from ATI no matter (the different cooler has nothing to do with drivers)

They say the Sapphire cards are all fixed so a bios change shouldnt be needed.
 

fahali

New Member
Joined
Feb 9, 2010
Messages
1 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#16
Compared to other HD 5770 cards we see a higher idle power draw. This is because the card's idle memory clock is 1200 MHz, just like under load. I'm not sure if this is a feature or an oversight by MSI.
This is an oversight by MSI. They failed to implement the 2D mode running with 157/600 MHz. There is an BIOS update available from MSI.

For those of you capable the german language:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,704314/Test-MSI-Radeon-HD-5770-Hawk-die-beste-HD-5770-auf-dem-Markt-Update-2D-Modus-gefixt/Grafikkarte/Test

Best
fahali
 
Joined
Jan 31, 2010
Messages
2,450 (0.85/day)
Likes
769
System Name Xtreme PC's AMDx8
Processor AMD FX8320 @ 4.0GHz NB/HT @ 2.6GHz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair V Formula
Cooling ThermoLab Baram 2x 120mm Gentle Typhoons 1850rpm
Memory 8GB (2x4GB) Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2400MHz 11/13/13/34/1T 1.65V
Video Card(s) Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB OC 1342/2000 (Core/Mem) BIOS Modded
Storage 2x Kingston V300 120GB SSD's Raid0: 1x Sandisk 128GB SSD 1xWD 2TB red, 1xWD 1TB black 1xWD 2TB nas
Display(s) ViewSonic VX2457 75Hz FreeSync 1920x1080p
Case SilverStone Raven RV02B-W + 3x SS AP181 + USB3.0 upgrade
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme PCIe + Pioneer VSX-D457 amp Technics Speaker set
Power Supply SilverStone ST75F-P Modular 750W
Mouse Logitech G402 Hyperion Fury
Keyboard Logitech G105
Software Windows 10 X64 PRO (build 1607)
Benchmark Scores it sucks even less much now ;)
#17
nice cooler but that's it and WTF nothing on the ram again I'd like some little BGA sinks on those rear chips please you want to try and touch one while your benching the card it'll burn the skin off your finger,

and why only one cf connector and NO interconnect cable what the hell is MSI thinking for $190 I'd expect alot more in the box.

My HIS has 2 CF connectors and came with an interconnect cable a DVI ~ VGA dongle a dirt2 voucher and 2x4pin molex to 1x6pin power cable and with a beefy enough PSU i could use four in my system whilst with MSI you'll be limited to 2.

all i got to say is go back to the drawing board MSI and this time listem to what your customers want in an ocing card
 

Cool Mike

New Member
Joined
Apr 22, 2009
Messages
206 (0.07/day)
Likes
33
Location
South Carolina, USA
System Name Cool Mike
Processor Intel I7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage Extreme IV
Cooling Thermaltake Water 2.0
Memory Corsair Dom. Platinum 4X4GB 2400Mhz 9-11-11-31
Video Card(s) Powercolor 7990 Devil 13
Storage OCZ RevoDrive3 x2 960GB
Display(s) Asus 25" 1080P LED
Case NZXT Switch 810 - Full Tower
Audio Device(s) Asus - On-board (Realtek)
Power Supply OCZ Fatality 1000W Gold - Individually Sleeved Cables
Software Windows 7 ULT 64Bit
#18
Purchased MSI 5770 Hawk From Newegg - $179.99

I will recieve my Hawk Friday, feb. 19th. from the reviews I should hit 1050 core
1400+x4 memory with relative ease. I'll check back later with my results. i also plan on measuring core and memory voltages.
would be sweet if I could hit 1100 core with stability.

update.
Recieved Hawk. High quality card. Excellent cooling. Running 1050 Core and 1400x4 memory with no issues. bumped Core voltage to 1.299 in after-burner.
Also ran core at 1075 with 1.325 but begin to have issues after 1 minute in furmark. Excellent card...
 
Last edited:

mkchiu

New Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2010
Messages
25 (0.01/day)
Likes
5
#19
How low does the voltage go in Afterburner?

Has anyone tried RBE on the Hawk, and does RBE work with the Hawk?
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
9,767 (2.99/day)
Likes
1,779
Location
Suffolk/Essex, England
System Name Joseph's Laptop Clevo P771ZM
Processor 4970k @4/4.4ghz
Motherboard *shrugs*
Cooling About 2 kilos of copper fins and pipes.
Memory 2x 8gb
Video Card(s) GTX 970m 6gb
Storage 500gb Msata SSD 2x 2TB storage drives
Display(s) Built in
Power Supply 300w power brick
Mouse Steam controller
Software Windows ten
#20
How low does the voltage go in Afterburner?

Has anyone tried RBE on the Hawk, and does RBE work with the Hawk?


No idea about first question but I'm pretty sure RBE works with the 5series cards now so you should be good in regards to that.
 

mkchiu

New Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2010
Messages
25 (0.01/day)
Likes
5
#21
Thanks, I'm only interested in a response from someone who has actually tried RBE with on Hawk and preferably has verified results (via increased performance or direct voltage measurement).

I have one "5series" card I plan to return. RBE most definitely does not work on it.

ED: I forgot to mention I found hexus review of the Hawk while searching for something else--it mentions Hawk + Afterburner is 1.100 to 1.350V for the record.
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
9,767 (2.99/day)
Likes
1,779
Location
Suffolk/Essex, England
System Name Joseph's Laptop Clevo P771ZM
Processor 4970k @4/4.4ghz
Motherboard *shrugs*
Cooling About 2 kilos of copper fins and pipes.
Memory 2x 8gb
Video Card(s) GTX 970m 6gb
Storage 500gb Msata SSD 2x 2TB storage drives
Display(s) Built in
Power Supply 300w power brick
Mouse Steam controller
Software Windows ten
#22
Joined
Mar 31, 2010
Messages
179 (0.06/day)
Likes
32
Location
Nevada, USA.
System Name Ryzen Vega
Processor Ryzen 1600X
Motherboard AsRock X370 Taichi
Cooling Custom water cooling loop
Memory 16gb Corsair PC 3200 LPX
Video Card(s) AMD Vega FX
Storage 1TB Mushkin SSD
Display(s) Nixeus 27 EDG
Case Rosewill Cullinan
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Coolermaster V1000
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G410
Software Win 10 Pro 64bit
Benchmark Scores I'm too cool to benchmark....
#24
For the record, I verified RBE 1.25 works on a Hawk I ordered.
Yes works for me too....

On a side note I am a little disappointed with my 2 Hawk 5770's in crossfire I am able to hit 970mhz on the core with 1.35V and fan at 100%.

Question: Is there a logical reason why crossfire Hawks should overclock worse than single cards???

Also Wizzard in your review you mention sound levels lower than the Sapphire VaporX 5770 (I also owned 2 of these and they overclocked to 960mhz on the core with stock volts)... I can safely say that the Sapphire VaporX cards that I had were quieter than the Hawks, these are extremely noisy in my Raven 2 case at anything over 70% fan speed.... You have the vapor X at higher noise levels than the hawks, perhaps you can explain how you test noise levels, do you leave the fan at auto or turn it to 100%???

Cheers.


BTW first post on this forum so be gentle <grin>
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
17,025 (3.43/day)
Likes
17,885
Processor Core i7-4790K
Memory 16 GB
Video Card(s) GTX 1080
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 7
#25
noise testing procedure is in the review, card is left at idle with default fan profile and loaded with gputool at default fan profile too. you can also use crysis if you dont like gputool