MSI Shows New Range of QD-OLED Gaming Monitors at Computex

[Onasi]

That is exactly what it is, plus better USB PD and FreeSync Pro vs Adaptive Sync.

Yeah, artificial segmentation, yay. That USB port is on the cheaper model as well, drop the PD if you must, but firmware updates, IMO, aren’t a big ask from a 900 dollar monitor. I was wrong when I said 150, by the way, sorry, it’s just 50 bucks. But they seem to really want to upsell. Not sure what the point of the base SKU even is then.

Edit: Oh, I am wrong again. Must be tired. There are no USB ports on the base model. Okay then, making a bit more sense then. Still, seems like going for the upsell makes it a no brainer here. Not like if you wanted to spend 900 you wouldn’t find another 50 dollars for QOL features.

Oh, and since there is no difference in the VRR range and we are talking OLED, there is absolutely no functional difference between basic Adaptive Sync and FreeSync. Another marketing trick, having another box checked, it seems.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yeah, artificial segmentation, yay. That USB port is on the cheaper model as well, drop the PD if you must, but firmware updates, IMO, aren’t a big ask from a 900 dollar monitor. I was wrong when I said 150, by the way, sorry, it’s just 50 bucks. But they seem to really want to upsell. Not sure what the point of the base SKU even is then.

Edit: Oh, I am wrong again. Must be tired. There are no USB ports on the base model. Okay then, making a bit more sense then. Still, seems like going for the upsell makes it a no brainer here. Not like if you wanted to spend 900 you wouldn’t find another 50 dollars for QOL features.

Oh, and since there is no difference in the VRR range and we are talking OLED, there is absolutely no functional difference between basic Adaptive Sync and FreeSync. Another marketing trick, having another box checked, it seems.

The base model still has a Type-C input.

 

[Onasi]

The base model still has a Type-C input.

Sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to artificially limit it to serving as DP Alt only and it is incapable of accepting data for firmware updates. It would be incredibly stupid, but I am not surprised by anything these days.

 

[VIPERSRT]

I guess you've never had a fan start to fail? Getting into a lot of monitors is nigh on impossible, as they're clipped, not screwed together.
These companies will always put the smallest fan possible inside as well.
Fans are a bad idea in anything you can't easily access them in.
On top of that, most companies tend to use non standard fan connectors, so they're not easily replaceable either.
A heatpipe and a large enough heatsink should be good enough, but have you looked at how most OLED displays are made? A tiny little square box for the electronics and a thin, flimsy panel hanging around it. No wonder it's hard to cool.
Also, that's a picture of a TV, not a monitor, the two are not the same.

The company decisions made cooling solution more difficult and nightmare . Who will care for thin monitor design? just make it standard size as LED LCD monitor that provides enough space for heatsink. For fan they can fix it under mesh cover which make it easier to clean and replace as old HDD in laptop but they stupidly waste money on AI to find a solution to detect static IMAGE to reduce brightness when the led become hot!!

 

[Pumper]

Why must all the gaming monitors have ugly stands?

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah, artificial segmentation, yay. That USB port is on the cheaper model as well, drop the PD if you must, but firmware updates, IMO, aren’t a big ask from a 900 dollar monitor. I was wrong when I said 150, by the way, sorry, it’s just 50 bucks. But they seem to really want to upsell. Not sure what the point of the base SKU even is then.

Edit: Oh, I am wrong again. Must be tired. There are no USB ports on the base model. Okay then, making a bit more sense then. Still, seems like going for the upsell makes it a no brainer here. Not like if you wanted to spend 900 you wouldn’t find another 50 dollars for QOL features.

Oh, and since there is no difference in the VRR range and we are talking OLED, there is absolutely no functional difference between basic Adaptive Sync and FreeSync. Another marketing trick, having another box checked, it seems.

You fell for MSI's trick. Seeing those three monitors its obvious everyone picks the middle option, and MSI is happy because you paid 1k for an OLED panel.
Elsewhere we see 1k and frown upon it being expensive. Here its 'the best pick'. Marketing. The AI option is just there to guide you to the 949,- product, much like the 899, one. I mean you have to be a special kind of noob to pay 700 bucks to get your health bar flashing in your face all the time. Imagine playing Diablo with that, constant random flashing usually way too late as your health has regenerated already. Its not only pointless, it would annoy your socks off.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

Tim from MUB confirmed after a chat with MSI while was at computex that even the base model (that doesn't get software updates) will be able to get them as long as you don't have the first batch of the model that came out.

Second and subsequent batches have a chip in them that will facilitate firmware updates, how exactly was unclear but Tim said other monitors have used dp for the data ingress so who knows.

 

[Chomiq]

Why must all the gaming monitors have ugly stands?

Monitor arms are a thing you know. They solve all the stupid stands problems.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Tim from MUB confirmed after a chat with MSI while was at computex that even the base model (that doesn't get software updates) will be able to get them as long as you don't have the first batch of the model that came out.

Second and subsequent batches have a chip in them that will facilitate firmware updates, how exactly was unclear but Tim said other monitors have used dp for the data ingress so who knows.

As I pointed out, it still has a USB-C input, so it might go via it.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

As I pointed out, it still has a USB-C input, so it might go via it.

What was your take/feel on the difference between the Vesa clear certifications (13k vs 9k) ? perceptible or not ?

 

[Onasi]

What was your take/feel on the difference between the Vesa clear certifications (13k vs 9k) ? perceptible or not ?

So far the numbers on clearmr seems like the definition of “pulled out at random”. They have several OLEDs and IPS screens of the same refresh get the same category, which is just patently nonsense. The fact that they also decided not to account for VRR is also worrying since it means that overdrive performance on lower refresh is not tested and, for OLED specifically, VRR artifacts are also omitted.
All in all, it seems like a meme of a cert and DEFINITELY asking whether it results in perceivable difference when you can provably take two monitors with the same certification and they OBJECTIVELY will perform differently is, frankly, pointless.

Tl:dr Nothing had changed since this article.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

All in all, it seems like a meme of a cert and DEFINITELY asking whether it results in perceivable difference when you can provably take two monitors with the same certification and they OBJECTIVELY will perform differently is, frankly, pointless.

Tl:dr Nothing had changed since this article.

Given I am looking at a monitor in this class, it's not pointless. It might not be obvious or it could be absolutely blatant. Writing it off without questioning it at all is, frankly, pointless.

 

[TheLostSwede]

What was your take/feel on the difference between the Vesa clear certifications (13k vs 9k) ? perceptible or not ?

Sorry, I wasn't actually at the show, so I haven't seen either display.

 

[mxthunder]

Lower Cost QD-OLEDs, Dual Mode LCDs, "AI" Cheat Monitor - Coming Soon from MSI

Tim from MUB confirmed after a chat with MSI while was at computex that even the base model (that doesn't get software updates) will be able to get them as long as you don't have the first batch of the model that came out.

Second and subsequent batches have a chip in them that will facilitate firmware updates, how exactly was unclear but Tim said other monitors have used dp for the data ingress so who knows.

I thought this was super interesting as well. If you could only find either of the models in stock.
Im starting to second guess wanting one after hearing some more horror stories of burn in.

 

[Chomiq]

TFT central has clarified the status of the 240 Hz ultrawide QD-OLED panels:

An Update and Correction for the New 34" Ultrawide 240Hz QD-OLED Panel - TFTCentral

Share this contentPeople have been eagerly awaiting the new generation of 34″ ultrawide QD-OLED panels from Samsung Display. Their first generation panel was produced all the way back in 2022,....[click link for more]

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Sadly, they do not feature the updated subpixel layout and instead appear to be using the 1st gen layout.

Why is Samsung Display still manufacturing new 2024 240 Hz ultrawide panels with 1st gen pixel layout from 2022 is a mystery.