Ok I just got a BFG GTX 295, to replace my 4870X2 for my gaming rig. Then I got the XFX 4850 1GB for my HTPC, to replace my BFG 8800 GTX OC. I like NVIDIA and ATI both, I would say I like NVIDIA a little more for gaming. I love the HDMI audio that ATI has. I know the XFX 4850 1GB is a little over kill for a HTPC. Its because I use my HTPC for a Media Center/server/gaming rig. I have any older motherboard for my HTPC that uses PCI-E 1.0. How much of a hit will the XFX 4850 1GB take from PCI-E 1.0? Thanks to NewEgg screwing up so many times on the RMA of my 4870X2 I got free next day shipping. I will update when I get them both.