Discussion in 'ATITool' started by muaddib555, Jul 6, 2006.
Are you sure that the card is really burnt?
You are asking for a banning you twat.
Do you understand you were using a tool, and your failure to use the tool properly caused the damage to your card?
Do you understand that no software outther is capable of 100% accurate hardware control?
Have you ever read how to use this or anything else beyond the first two paragraphs?
Seriously, close your trap and listen, all you are doing is setting off more and more people against you, and no one is going to want to help you. Assclown.
Well.. the screen was full of artifacs in bios and windows startup (dos-mode)
And the computer froze when I started a 3d-application.
Something went terribly wrong eitherway.. burnt or not..
But the temp on the card was nice after I innstalled the Zalman cooler.. from ca.85C to 70C on 675 / 789 in CCC overdrive.
Just ban me! I don't care..
Im never using Ati tool again thats for sure... It worked 100% on my last card 9800pro, but this beta verision is very risky..
You still don't understand.
Mebey if you asked really nice you could OC your card and get someone to mod your BIOS and you would be set. But not with that attitude. (new card that is) No ATITool, no extra programs, no worrying about voltage changing.
Now go vow your life to W1zzard.
wow a beta being buggy...what a concept
pull this logic on anyone in the real world and this is all u will receive
i recon we are coming down a little hard on muaddib555..
he didnt appear to do much wrong only in the sense he used a beta piece of software to overclock his card and do potentially dangerous things like change his voltages..
atitool dosnt seem to work with my 1900xtx card.. i accept the beta factor and understand the problems so i dont use it..
but if my 400 quid grfx card had of died in the proccess of trying it a few choice words might have passed my lips.. includeing some unkind ones about atitool.. he he he
he should just send it back and put this all down to experience.. and so perhaps should we all.. overclocking (or attemps at it) can do bad things..
lets stop this hound the heritic crap and all learn from whats happened..
If you play you gotta expect to pay. If you insist on overclocking stuff and running the voltages @ 3D settings all the time then you should be using better cooling than that Zalman piece of crap. I will never understand why people get air coolers to overclock with. Besides, did you even think to check the fan speeds? Did you have great airflow in the case? Those temps you report after installing that Zalman junk is no better than what the stock aircooler can do when the fan speeds are increased.
And I am sorry, but no blame can be put on ATITOOL. If you don't want to break your stuff, DON'T OVERCLOCK IT!!! THAT IS SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, NO? Hardware is meant to run at the speeds you bought it at. If that is not good enough for you then buy something faster, period. Overclocking is never safe ever, no matter how it is done. It is a calculated risk.
i dont think everyone should be treating him like that, he is probably just super pissed he lost 500$ to a program and is childish enough to blame the program, not himself... also, if ur getting load of over 90... its commonsence to just shut off and see whats wrong... the gpu might beable to take the temps, but have u ever thought wat temps ur memory would be? have u ever thought wat temps ur card in general is? do u have good airflow in case or do u have one 1.1 cfm fan? everyone here is trying to help u so just calm down and mabee some1 will help
lmao, do NOT use the auto clocking things on X1x00 series cards, it does not work. As for temps, anything above 80C is stupid if your letting it get that hot.
Mine locks at 79C at 650/775.
did u unlock to 1900xtx?
Nope, mines a bent card, 1.1ns but wont go past 801 and the core is a pos so I've left it at 660/801 for max 24/7 clocks.
thats one good memory clock u got there... i almost have the same core clock as u... 10 mhz away!!!
Your a moron RPG711, they are freakin different freaking cores..... omg..... Have we not been though theis before...
live and learn, nuff said.
"As for temps, anything above 80C is stupid"
i would be inclined to agree with that comment except for the fact my 1900xtx as it came out of the box (as ati intended it to) with no overclock at all runs hotter than that under load..
when i first put my hand on the voltage regulators at the back i thought jeesh this thing runs too bloody hot for its own good..
my x850 xt pe type card overclcocked to its max ran barely warm to the touch.. my x1900xtx burns my bloody hand.. he he he
but my case cooling is very good.. and ati must know the things run as hot as they do and think its okay so who am i to question..
i do have two 120mm fans blowing straight at the thing.. they do bring the voltage regulators and general card temps (to the touch) down quite a bit but they dont alter the gpu read out at all.. the card still hits nearly 90c under load.. having said that it dosnt seem to bother it.. it runs the full ccc overdrive clocks 690/800 with no problem..
anybody who owns an x1900xt or xtx that has put their hand on it while its running say 3dmark 2006 or 2005 will know exactly what i mean..
i would think liquid cooling is a smart choice for those cards
"i would think liquid cooling is a smart choice for those cards"
yep.. but even then u have to think about the overall card temps not just the gpu.. its something that just sticking a waterblock on the gou wouldnt be good enough.. the rest of the card would fry.. plenty of air does at least cool all the card..
the bottom line here is they really do run too hot.. but ati have put their money where their mouth is and quite clearly expect em to stand the heat.. else they wouldnt dare sell em..
What about build a small acrilic case for the GFX card AND FILL IT WITH OIL, no noise at all
how would air flow, smart one? lol if no water cooling then transform the water cooling to phase change... all u need is a air conditioner compressor then make custom water blocks for the mem chips and make some heatsinks for everything , voltage regulators... mosfets..
If your cards get that hot, i'd recomend you to take a good look at the cooler to see if it is good mounted.
Better if you take the cooler off, clean the thermal paste, put some arctic silver 5 on gpu and mem's and mount the cooler again. I'm sure it will help.
My X1900XT doesn't get over 70 degrees celsius under load, and stays at about 45 idle.
Water cooling and a couple of 80MM low flow fans properly placed is all that is needed. My X1800's idle @ 32C and max load is 50C. THe power regs never get over 55C. This is @ 720/820 and gaming for hours on end too. Airflow is the key to getting those Vregs cooled down. The stock cooler is best for air cooling since it actively cools the Vregs and pulls the hot air out.
being as i no longer run atitool on my 1900 machine i have a problem measuring the temps mine runs at..
its now 47c at idle.. a quick five minute run of oblivion with the ccc overdrive panel running in the background.. a quick alt/tab out of oblivion and the overdrive screen temp read-out shows me at 89c.. within about three seconds its dropped to well below 70c and a few seconds after that its back down to idle temps..
at 89c its not in the red (still well in the orange) on the little ccc temp dial thing..
yours might well run at 70c but i think mine is more like the norm at 690/800 i could get it cooler by running the fan flat out but genuinely couldnt stand the bloody racket it would make..
the fan is running about 70% at those temps as ati intended it to be.. nothing has been meddled with.. its temp controled i am quite sure the fan would crank up more if ati thought it needed it..
i think 90c is within accepted limits for these cards nothing tells me otherwise..
its true that its not smart to overclock a 500 card but u can never have too much fps... quad sli with 32x aa with 16af in highest possible res... 30 fps... that means overclock time!!! and also cheep phase change time!!! u just put a compressor in a resovoir and volia, u have ur -40c temps!!
I also think these temps are acceptable. BUT, try lapping the heatsink where it touches the core. I know of a few people that have done that and gotten quite nice drops in temps, 10C idle and load. Otherwise, ATI did designe them to run this way as you said. It is covered under a 3 year guarranty. If it commits suicide, then ATI will console you with a new card. At least someone in this thread has some common sense.
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