My External HDD faster at copying/pasting then in Windows!?

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

Hi,

I'm doing a test to see if Linux is faster at Copying/Pasting my 352 Movies (@288GB) is it faster then Windows 10 (@78MB vs Linux @170MB) this is just ODD to me

Jetster · Jul 29, 2016

@288GB ???

Linux is better at handling drivers , you have the wrong USB 3.0 Drivers install on the windows rig
.

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

why? it's from ASRock

O... and by bad 310.2GB

Mussels · Jul 29, 2016

try disabling your antivirus/windows defender in W10.

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

Ok i will. Thats strange though

And that thing i noticed is the OS slows down while Copying

Jetster · Jul 29, 2016

Come to think of it I don't think Ive ever seen 170MB/s on a USB 3.0 I usually get like 80MB/s

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

Jetster said:
Come to think of it I don't think Ive ever seen 170MB/s on a USB 3.0 I usually get like 80MB/s

I know Right! Still cool to see and it actually worked. Win. took 1HR&40MIN where Linux took 30MIN

Nokiron · Jul 29, 2016

That does not seem right. What kind of drive is it? An external solid state one?

3.5" rarely go that high, especially not tiny ones.

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

Its a 3.5 and the External bay is from Sabrent. Its sata based

Toothless · Jul 29, 2016

rk3066 said:
Its a 3.5 and the External bay is from Sabrent. Its sata based

HDD or SSD

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

HDD. What ssd has 3.5?

Edit: NVM lol I see

Nokiron · Jul 29, 2016

What's the drive size? Model?

Getting 170MB/s consistent sequential writes is quite rare and only shows up on high-density, high-performance drives.

theFOoL · Jul 29, 2016

The drive is from Seagate and model:

Edit: can't read the M
Edit2: ST1000DM003

ShiBDiB · Jul 30, 2016

Those drives should average 120-150/s on the norm so possible you got a good drive. But windows being that much slower sounds like a driver issue.

theFOoL · Jul 30, 2016

I'll check out the driver. Report back in
an hour or so

FordGT90Concept · Jul 30, 2016

rk3066 said:
The drive is from Seagate and model:

Edit: can't read the M
Edit2: ST1000DM003

I have a similar drive and 150-200 MB/s is doable on eSATA/USB3 in Windows 10. Something is definitely amiss.

xorbe · Jul 30, 2016

Linux may be write caching more aggressively, while Windows is flushing buffers before finishing.

theFOoL · Jul 30, 2016

See now on my Zotac Mini PC it's down to 90MB on MINT but of course it's a tiny PC. Says it'll take 1HR

Mussels · Jul 30, 2016

Just to pitch in my own experiences with USB 3: i have a *LOT* of USB 3 storage (around 20TB)

My drives vary from 80MB/s through 250MB/s (RAID 0 2x1TB) and i plan to use a USB 3 60GB SSD for fast games transfers soon too.

If you get varying speeds on the same PC with a different OS, then its either software slowing it down (Antivirus!) or drivers (stock USB3 drivers in w10 are perfect for 95% of PC's, but i've had a few go weird and require 3rd party updates) - dont rule out your SATA drivers being incorrect as well!

FYFI13 · Jul 30, 2016

Mussels said:
try disabling your windows defender in W10.

Best of luck on Win 10 Home versions without touching PowerShell (or Group Policy Editor for Pro versions)

Toothless · Jul 30, 2016

FYFI13 said:
Best of luck on Win 10 Home versions without touching PowerShell (or Group Policy Editor for Pro versions)

Because there totally isn't a program that disabled it with a click of a button that @Mussels didn't have in a thread on how to deal with Win10.

Mussels · Jul 30, 2016

FYFI13 said:
Best of luck on Win 10 Home versions without touching PowerShell (or Group Policy Editor for Pro versions)

O&O shutup 10 is your new friend

Nobody99 · Jul 30, 2016

They should be pretty much the same speed, except if you are using NTFS drives in Linux where the max speed I got was 50 MBps because of the bad NTFS support in Linux (Tuxera should get their head out of their ass and open source their proprietary implementations), copying to two external drives from 2.5" internal was faster because each was limited to 50 MBps.

It also depends on your fragmentation state of the target and source drive.

FYFI13 · Jul 30, 2016

Mussels said:
O&O shutup 10 is your new friend

My "new" friend is Ubuntu

theFOoL · Jul 30, 2016

Ok so i have no AV installed and.... which of these is the USB 3 Drivers?

I have Iiobit Driver Booster installed. Should i go with that? Never let me down before

System Name	BoX-Server \| 775PC
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Cooling	OEZM HSK \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
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System Name	BoX-Server \| 775PC
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Motherboard	ASRock B85M-ITX \| ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling	OEZM HSK \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	AMD 6450 \| AMD RX 550 4GB
Storage	120GB SSD 1TB WD \| 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
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Case	CoolerMaster 110 \| RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
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Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

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System Name	BoX-Server \| 775PC
Processor	I3 3.5GHZ (3150) \| Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard	ASRock B85M-ITX \| ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling	OEZM HSK \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	AMD 6450 \| AMD RX 550 4GB
Storage	120GB SSD 1TB WD \| 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s)	DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 \| ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case	CoolerMaster 110 \| RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Rosewill 610WATT \| Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

My External HDD faster at copying/pasting then in Windows!?

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