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Hello tech,I need to ask one questions,I have in plan to buy new pc,I have something in my head, but I want to ask what to buy ,PC 1-or PC 2

Pc-1
Intel core i5 8400
B360,gigabyte h310m
Gtx 1060 3gb
2x4 2666 ram memory dual channel
Or

Pc™2

Ryzen 5 1600x
Gtx 1060 3gb
2x4 2666
And cheapest mobo?
I want it for gaming and maybe for streaming?™™
 
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#2
I want it for gaming and maybe for streaming?™™
For that I'd personally go for the second PC , the one with the 1600X. Although you could use GPU encoding at the expense of some quality.
 
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Yea I know tht bcz. I saw alot of videos on youtube and with i5 8400 I can get 15/20 fps+ in gaming
 
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#5
Flip a coin for it, seriously, either of those PC's will be good.

If price is a factor, go for the cheaper CPU+Motherboard combo (if you plan on overclocking then at least a B350 for the ryzen) and try to squeeze more money in the GPU, something like a GTX 1060 6Gb or RX 580, if it's possible.
 
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The ryzen system will do better if you are gaming AND streaming. Also, the ryzen will perform better with faster 3200 memory.
 
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For gaming and streaming definitely second PC with Ryzen 5 1600X.
 
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FYI, the 3gb 1060 is an absolute P.O.S. for anything beyond surfing/email....

Been there, done that, never again :)
 

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Hello tech,I need to ask one questions,I have in plan to buy new pc,I have something in my head, but I want to ask what to buy ,PC 1-or PC 2

Pc-1
Intel core i5 8400
B360,gigabyte h310m
Gtx 1060 3gb
2x4 2666 ram memory dual channel
Or

Pc™2

Ryzen 5 1600x
Gtx 1060 3gb
2x4 2666
And cheapest mobo?
I want it for gaming and maybe for streaming?™™
would replace GTX 1060 3GB for the 6GB variant or better,
 
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Ryzen due to the upgrade path, Forget locked intel cpu bs.
 

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any fact, reason or based comment for this?

Regards
I'd take a look at performance increases through overclocking - The ryzen is unlocked and the intel isn't - My 6600k was capable of 4.5ghz at 1.27v which was a massive difference over stock. It's not hard to overclock and has excellent gains.
 

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I'd take a look at performance increases through overclocking - The ryzen is unlocked and the intel isn't - My 6600k was capable of 4.5ghz at 1.27v which was a massive difference over stock. It's not hard to overclock and has excellent gains.
well, they are meant for a segment of the market were OC is not necesary, workstation, even gaming rigs, i did used to get unlocked processors, ended-up using locked processors at stock values, not all people wants higher clocks and tweaks for a real 10-35% improvement, take in consideration that locked processor use single motherboards, unlocked ones must be used on high end boars, which are expensive compared to single ones...
 
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Ryzen due to the upgrade path, Forget locked intel cpu bs.
Just bc a cpu is locked and cannot be OC doesn't mean it's a bad product. Learn to type your words sir

OP, I'd go for the AMD but go for gpu 1060 6gb if possible
 
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As i can see the only diffrence between PC1 and PC2 is the CPU , And the 1600X is about 15% better then the 8400 , i would go to PC2 , but if you want to overclock the CPU then go for PC1.
 
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Seriously try to get the gtx1060 6gb version and if youre thinking on streaming too ryzen can help you but both cpus are good for gaming. Ill try to put the xtra money on the gpu.
 
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Flip a coin for it, seriously, either of those PC's will be good.

If price is a factor, go for the cheaper CPU+Motherboard combo (if you plan on overclocking then at least a B350 for the ryzen) and try to squeeze more money in the GPU, something like a GTX 1060 6Gb or RX 580, if it's possible.
@op AMD made combo they call, i think, Combat Crates. worth looking into for a budget build.
 
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As i can see the only diffrence between PC1 and PC2 is the CPU , And the 1600X is about 15% better then the 8400 , i would go to PC2 , but if you want to overclock the CPU then go for PC1.
Sorry but locked intel cpus don't overclock. PC2 it is.

Just bc a cpu is locked and cannot be OC doesn't mean it's a bad product. Learn to type your words sir

OP, I'd go for the AMD but go for gpu 1060 6gb if possible
It's a gimped product, making it a bad product - I'd never go for a locked cpu a dead chipset over a unlocked cpu with a chipset that will last 3+ intel refreshes.

well, they are meant for a segment of the market were OC is not necesary, workstation, even gaming rigs, i did used to get unlocked processors, ended-up using locked processors at stock values, not all people wants higher clocks and tweaks for a real 10-35% improvement, take in consideration that locked processor use single motherboards, unlocked ones must be used on high end boars, which are expensive compared to single ones...
"Z" Boards are minimally more expensive, not too much of a cost difference. Ryzen can be overclocked and it's a better buy than intel - z370 is coming to EOL soon for z390 and there is 0 upgrade path, 10-35% is a massive improvement over stock and will improve multitasking performance massively. Even my 6600k at 4.5 bottlenecks my 1080 ti and I purchased a i7-7740x and awaiting a x299 mobo - I chose intel due to single core performance due to games like civ 6 and total war rome 2 crunching through single core over multithreaded.
 
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You can use cheap case, small hdd but cheapest board is big no
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"Z" Boards are minimally more expensive, not too much of a cost difference. Ryzen can be overclocked and it's a better buy than intel - z370 is coming to EOL soon for z390 and there is 0 upgrade path, 10-35% is a massive improvement over stock and will improve multitasking performance massively. Even my 6600k at 4.5 bottlenecks my 1080 ti and I purchased a i7-7740x and awaiting a x299 mobo - I chose intel due to single core performance due to games like civ 6 and total war rome 2 crunching through single core over multithreaded.
Finally, a comment with a little sense, but lets see this:
compare this:
Budget i5 locked combo and Budget i5 unlocked combo
Diference over those parts is like $100 or so, incluiding almost the same parts, but the locked combo incluides a better motherboard, the unlocked one has one of the cheapest boards, which might not be the best for OC and tweaks, so everytime you build a machine or advise about a build have to consider if you can go cheaper on some parts, or go mid range but locked processor, and quality board for it, those examples are pretty close due availability on parts, in the market or real world is hard to have the same availability incluiding lower costs, for a miniaml performance gain or real need for higher clocks, speeds and plenty more, so sometimes going locked means money save, or wise purchase for your wallet.
Lets get clear on this, there is no problem going locked nor is going unlocked,

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Finally, a comment with a little sense, but lets see this:
compare this:
Budget i5 locked combo and Budget i5 unlocked combo
Diference over those parts is like $100 or so, incluiding almost the same parts, but the locked combo incluides a better motherboard, the unlocked one has one of the cheapest boards, which might not be the best for OC and tweaks, so everytime you build a machine or advise about a build have to consider if you can go cheaper on some parts, or go mid range but locked processor, and quality board for it, those examples are pretty close due availability on parts, in the market or real world is hard to have the same availability incluiding lower costs, for a miniaml performance gain or real need for higher clocks, speeds and plenty more, so sometimes going locked means money save, or wise purchase for your wallet.
Lets get clear on this, there is no problem going locked nor is going unlocked,

Regards,
"money saved" - Because intel are a monopoly all they do is lock the cpu from changing multiplier, Compare it to ryzen - It's near enough the same as the locked bundle and you can overclock.
 

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#23
intel is what it is and your comments will not change it, so deal with locked processors and different market segments or keep in a lie forever....
I totally understand that ryzen are unlocked and might cost a bit less and offer less / same / more performance over "X" locked intel processor, but thats something we could not change, so deal with it and learn from this scenario or remain a noob and claim cr*ps about locked and unlocked processors without proper facts...
 
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#24
Peche, Here's many reasons why ryzen is better:
-Soldered, no intel glue BS.
-Unlocked for the price of the locked intel cpu
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF0x9wWxXMM Near enough identical performance, and when overclocked the ryzen will pull ahead with ease.
-AM4 upgradability (new amd cpus until 2020) - How's coffee lake upgradability going for you? Well it's getting replaced by z390 so enjoy that useless motherboard - you can't stick a new cpu in 2 years time like ryzen can.
-Lower cpu utilisation 6 threads vs 12 threads
Why save money on the intel system when you can grab ryzen? Intel fanboys are salty nowadays sadly, instead of fanboying a brand you should buy what's best for your use case - He wants to game and stream and those 6 additional threads will reduce performance impact and it will outperform the i5 with gaming+streaming at the same time.

Learn from this scenario? I'll tell you what I learnt:
-Your a die hard intel fanboy
-Ryzen is the better buy
I may learn more as your false facts and zero advice to the op intensifies, only time will tell.

intel is what it is and your comments will not change it, so deal with locked processors and different market segments or keep in a lie forever....
I totally understand that ryzen are unlocked and might cost a bit less and offer less / same / more performance over "X" locked intel processor, but thats something we could not change, so deal with it and learn from this scenario or remain a noob and claim cr*ps about locked and unlocked processors without proper facts...
Locked and Unlocked cpus are no "market sector" - Intel made it a market sector because blind sheep remain loyal - AMD has upped their game and is heading to dominate that market sector since the sheep are slowly waking up to the reality - Ironically I'm a far bigger intel user than you ever will be - I buy what meets my needs like my x5650, 6600k and my 7740x (need x299 mobo) And ryzen is perfect for the low/mid end sector. The i5 is irrelevant and can't yield a performance improvement from overclocking.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw...0k1j0i24k1.0.TosAFseurKU#imgrc=c9Y2_N9olskNiM:
Here you go - Ryzen takes the victory in multi thread without overclocking even and comes close in single core - Oh and that's the 1600 with a smaller oc yield. The 1600x will crush the i5 8400 easily and your advising is awful since ironically your asking me to put out facts and you haven't shown one, Your advising is the equivalent of telling someone to grab a i5 over the same priced but better i7 - zero sense and plain stupid, I'd take 6c12t over 6c6t any day - my x5650 performs dead close to the ryzen 5 1600 and that's when intel wasn't pulling the same BS.
 
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#25
lol... seriusly if the topic or one of my responses offended you i do offer an apologize, as owner and systems builder of amd and intel i totally understand the performance given by the 2 competitors and also understand and deal with both options, own both options and always try to help people, the point here is your lack of reading comprehension here, im not stating to get one of the given examples, im trying to comprehend why the f*ck you claim a product shitty or bad cuz you dont like it, thats the problem here, and my participation here ends, if you want to discuss it feel free to sent pm, cuz im not interesting to deal with a child that only knows to to say i love ryzen, support me or you are a fan boy ... so, have a great day.

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