Need a new setup...money is no object

[overclocking101]

Hey guys long time member back years later. you may know me as oc101 AKA VTvap3guy.
I need a new setup. Okay, I dont NEED one I want one by christmas.
my current rig:
core i5 6600k skylake (never been above 5ghz)
gigabyte z170x gaming 6
15g gskil ripjaws
amd r9 380x
corsair hx or ax 1000w psu
in corsair cube case
2tb reg platter hdds
128gb ssd mushkin i believe
cpu watercooled with xspc raystorm d5 with ek res top BIX 240 rad

so its a good rig but I want more!!! maybe just upgrade this one??
I am an nvidia guy and ever since I got the r9380x it seems laggy jittery with some games and just in general a touch slower (had a gtx760ti)
I film and edit for youtube
I game sometimes
mainly this is for me to run some benches and do some shit. My rig is good but it's just not quick enough for my main pc
I like the cube style cases btw

 

[FreedomEclipse]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/YXNQzy /theEnd

 

[cucker tarlson]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/YXNQzy /theEnd

1070ti ? this is slower than 2060.

gaming oriented
z390 gaming sli
9700kf
16gb 3600 c16
mp510 480gb for system and 660p 1/2tb for games
rtx 2070 gaming x
focus plus psu 550-650w

balanced
b450 fatal1ty k4
ryzen 3600
16gb 3200 c16
mp510+660p
rtx 2070 super gaming oc


if mostly film/edit and just 60hz gaming

Threadripper 1920x
x399 phantom 6
32gb quad channel 2666 memory
cs3030 drive
rtx 2060

 

[64K]

Money is always an object for the vast majority of us. If not then just buy the highest end hardware out there and call it a day. I suspect though that you do have a budget in mind for what you consider to be reasonable.

What is your budget?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Money is always an object for the vast majority of us. If not then just buy the highest end hardware out there and call it a day. I suspect though that you do have a budget in mind for what you consider to be reasonable.

What is your budget?

if he's been doing video work on 6600k up until now he's gonna crap his pants when he sees how 3600 does it, let alone a 3700x or 3900x. used 1920x is an amazing buy ATM too if this is for video work.

 

[biffzinker]

he's gonna crap his pants when he sees how 3600 does it, let alone a 3700x or 3900x

The 3600 is no slouch I can vouch for that. There's also the performance to dollar ratio.

1070ti ? this is slower than 2060.

Sometimes the 1070 Ti is faster than the RTX 2060, usually the 2060 is ahead or tied.

 

[overclocking101]

If I had to putcap a budget it would be around 2k last I knew and was way behind CPU wise and the r9380x I have is good bit it didn't impress me much with driver issues sputtering. I think if possible I would like to avoid any of that crap

 

[kapone32]

If you are buying a PC and money is no object I would look at X399 or TR40. For what you want to do going cheap would be an X399 with a 1950 or 2920 or 2950. Someone did recommend the As Rock X399 Gaming 6. That board is the only board that has 3 full x16 slots (I think the Micro ATX might be the same) and it is usually the cheapest board you can buy. If you are not too concerned about expansion lanes the 3900x and 3950x (if you can find one) are faster than any X399 CPU and those will probably work great with the next AM4 chipset (X670 e.g.) as well.

 

[overclocking101]

ok how about this, i have been looking at processors motherboards etc but my knowledge is from years ago when intel and nvidia were king. Seems that may not be the case now.
Maybe suggestions for a top of the line rig that wont give me a bunch of hassle to get started, and maybe a budget build or an upgrade to my current rig. I think I want to go crossfire or sli but are X2's still a thing? you know the 3870x2 and 4870x2 something like that still being put out?? idk just spit balling here. I want a fast pc faster then what I have. I want to push power on and have it in windows by count of 10-15 mine now is like 25-30 i want to play any game no problem. run any bench with decent scores. export any edit quickly. etc.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Well from your past rig, your not totally interested in the super duper tippy top of CPU.

That said, you go Big'er, not sure the need for your thread count, but anything from 3600x to 3800x would very likely suffice your needs.
Get a top branded board from the make of your choice. Such as ASUS ROG series are really good for example.
GPU? Does it really matter?? In 5 years it'll be much slower and less capable. But want frame rates at x resolution, go big or stay home.
Nice little Seasonic PSU. Not sure what your power requirements are yet, but if you can over kill within a 25$ difference and pull off a 10 year warranty, go this route. Gold or higher rating is good.

The difference between Intel and AMD>

Well AMD clocks it'self up to the most maximum out of box. Yes the Boost has overclock of 200mhz over base boost.
Intel however on a manual overclock you can still get a couple few hundred mhz over the boost frequency which is nice to play with.
Intel has a little better memory controller.
Board layout would be your choice really. Not sure what your needs are, but get a good board and Fast Ram. Don't buy 3600mhz memory if your going Intel. 4000 or higher.

SLI and XFire isn't really a big thing any more. Niche crowd. Think NVidia uses NVLink now a days. I think it's still an option. Just depends on how you want to build. Physx isn't really a big demand anymore. They don't make many games with hardware physx. Always did like the thousands particle count on bullet impacts

 

[biffzinker]

Physx isn't really a big demand anymore. They don't make many games with hardware physx.

It's built into the Unreal/Unity Engine, and hardware acceleration is still a thing with CUDA on a Nvidia card.

 

[Vayra86]

ok how about this, i have been looking at processors motherboards etc but my knowledge is from years ago when intel and nvidia were king. Seems that may not be the case now.
Maybe suggestions for a top of the line rig that wont give me a bunch of hassle to get started, and maybe a budget build or an upgrade to my current rig. I think I want to go crossfire or sli but are X2's still a thing? you know the 3870x2 and 4870x2 something like that still being put out?? idk just spit balling here. I want a fast pc faster then what I have. I want to push power on and have it in windows by count of 10-15 mine now is like 25-30 i want to play any game no problem. run any bench with decent scores. export any edit quickly. etc.

Ryzen 5 3600 or the 9700kf rig suggested above. I wouldn't go TR with your use case.

Use the extra money on getting all SSD storage in there led by a large NVME drive for the OS and all applications, nice silent but effective cooling & case. Focus on quality of life with your budget. Performance is stellar anyway. Or maybe you want to bump up the GPU a notch if you feel like actually spending the full 2k. A 2070S is definitely the high end sweet spot now, though. Yet another option is donating budget to a higher spec monitor, you can comfortably push 1440p, mostly beyond 60hz too.

IF you are thinking about monitors: if you want to venture into high refresh rates (120hz>), get the 9700kf option. If you want to focus on higher resolutions, get Ryzen and save money. This is where the choice will really count for gaming. If you want to OC; both CPUs are nice OC'ers in their own way. Ryzen for tweakability, 9700 for clocks. The latter will run hot though in doing so.

Last, don't go overboard on circus AIO bullshit. Unless you like the looks... but if you want a no hassle 'does what it must do' rig, air cooling is fine, silent, and cheap, and will outlast any AIO. Custom water is obv another story.

Oh, and Windows 10 boot in 10 seconds? I can do it in 8 after a clean install So yeah, that wish shall be granted.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

It's built into the Unreal/Unity Engine, and hardware acceleration is still a thing with CUDA on a Nvidia card.

Havoc is software physics. Its been around a long time and does not require a gpu to run it. Thus is runs on NV and AMD cards.
NV physx is completely different. It only runs on cuda.

Chrome uses hardware acceleration, I dont see why games wouldnt....??

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What I would be looking at coming from
your specs.

Intel is pretty dead in the water right now... none of their CPU make any sense over their Ryzen counterparts. Only the 9900k paired with a 2080ti at 1080p/1440p makes some sense to me and only barely because that's a lot to invest on a dead platform at the end of 2019.

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[overclocking101]

so ryzen looks really nice. im going to end up that route. only thing I dont like is board selection in the us right now is limited to like 6 models. i may wait a week or 2 see if that changes
I thought about upgrading my current rig but it seems I would need a whole new motherboard to do so and at that point may as well go ryzen

Oh, and Windows 10 boot in 10 seconds? I can do it in 8 after a clean install So yeah, that wish shall be granted.

I can with my setup also on a fresh install. but as soon as I start installing things it goes down hill quickly

 

[Deleted member 185158]

so ryzen looks really nice. im going to end up that route. only thing I dont like is board selection in the us right now is limited to like 6 models. i may wait a week or 2 see if that changes
I thought about upgrading my current rig but it seems I would need a whole new motherboard to do so and at that point may as well go ryzen


I can with my setup also on a fresh install. but as soon as I start installing things it goes down hill quickly

Well to get winders to boot fast, you want the fastest possible OS drive configuration possible.
You could always use sleep mode instead of a full shut down also. This helps bring up an OS rather quickly.

 

[potato580+]

b350, ryzen 1700, dual channel 16gb, quadro/vega64/radeon vii/rtx probably if you wanted gaming aswell, if you got the money, i strongly recomend this
money is no object

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

There's plenty of options, I would recommend you research a bit and figure out how much more horsepower you need.

The 3600 is a good chip, definitely the best price/performance out of the zen 2 CPUs, however a cheaper zen/zen+ part might suffice...

For GPUs consider second hand for the <$250 price range, none of the new cards in that price category (and up to $350 or so) are particularly attractive.