need a new wireless router

[Easy Rhino]

the dlink-655 has been up and running for a week with no problems whatsoever. i havnt done any media streaming yet tho so maybe this weekend i will stream over an HD movie to the PS3 and see how it goes.

 

[mrhuggles]

a good test would be a torrent, with lots of users, all those seperate UDP connections is a really great workout

 

[Easy Rhino]

a good test would be a torrent, with lots of users, all those seperate UDP connections is a really great workout

cool, i have torrents up and running. unfortunately comcast throttles my upload so f them.

 

[ktr]

use utorrent or azureus and enable encryption. That should prevent the throttling.

 

[Easy Rhino]

use utorrent or azureus and enable encryption. That should prevent the throttling.

it doesnt prevent them from throttling me unfortunately.

 

[mrhuggles]

use encryption + random ports [or like port 80, that will show them heh]

maybe nobody else is useing encryption? nothing even DPI would be able to pick that off, hmm

do they do that to all UDP traffic or something i dont know about?

 

[Easy Rhino]

use encryption + random ports [or like port 80, that will show them heh]

maybe nobody else is useing encryption? nothing even DPI would be able to pick that off, hmm

do they do that to all UDP traffic or something i dont know about?

not sure. before i had to format about 3 weeks ago i was actually not being throttled. so perhaps i forgot some settings.

 

[niko084]

use utorrent or azureus and enable encryption. That should prevent the throttling.

Lots of ISP's throttle anytime you start using any decent amount of your upload, they start cutting you back if it holds above a certain point for too long.

 

[mrhuggles]

i would go away from that, hell i went away from comcast cuz they kept upping the downstream and leaving the upstream alone at like 768k, i would rather have 1mbit both ways, optimaly like 2mbit both ways, but 1mbit would be good enough for me, atm im on dsl, 7mbit / 896kbit but more like, 95k/s [comcast was like, 45 50k/s upstream at absolute best ever was like 68k/s] i guess things are completely different now, but for the longest they restricted the upstream so bad, and my downstream on them was like 15mbit plus so they are like OMFG15MBIT plz insert moneys for 15mbit irregardless of upstream

 

[niko084]

Well lets be honest here, when is the last time you saw yourself "actually" get 15mbit download speed???? Exactly....

My beloved 1.5/1.5 T1 I had use of when I lived at home is FAR faster for downloads and uploads, and only a tad bit slower on browsing the internet, because that wonderful 15mbit they advertise is a burst speed only and they nominal out around 1mbit.

 

[Easy Rhino]

well my 6mbit down always maxes at 6mbit when im downloading 10 gig files from usenet. and i get a solid 1 mbit up when uploading via ftp. im happy with the connection speed, but i would like them to stop screwing with torrents.

 

[Snipermonkey2]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122224

buddy has the older white model things are solid handles 20 ppl lans no problem as well as net browsing on all those rigs everything remains as fast to be expected no reboot requirted and amazing signal streigth

He is talking about my router and I would have to say Netgear right now is the way to go.

If Linksys was as good as people try to make it out to be then the government would still be buying it, but they are now buying from Nortel Networks.

 

[mrhuggles]

mmm
my old comcast actually hit 15mbit downstream, it was advertized as 16mbit, and also... my problem with it was never downstream it was always upstream they were insane, it was a long time befor they gave us 768k upstream even, we were on 384k for the longest, mmm i wish i had a t1, those are great for both upstream and latency omg

mmm as far as routers go, its 99.9% what software they are running and 1% hardware, there isnt really alot of distinction between any router and another when it comes to consumer routers, physicaly anyhow. they are too simple its like if they had to make a 486 computer, no company could really screw that up, but software, lol, nobody makes good software anymore

the government prolly uses cisco stuff almost exclusively, theyd prolly be better off with linux if they had trained people but, when you buy cisco you dont buy it for its stability as much as the tech support it comes with, i doubt that the .gov ever really used alot of linksys routers and if they did they shoulda put linux on um, hmm

well anyways, i dont make linksys out to be good, i make openWRT out to be good, and it is, and its completely unrelated to linksys at all, btw, im pretty sure the linksys brand is on its way out, i think they are rebranding to cisco cuz they sucked so bad and they wanna get away from the name of sucking so bad, but its their own fault, they used to use like the crappiest linux they possibly could that suicided its self when it got too many connections, then, they moved to VXWorks, which is like, even more suicidal after alot less connections :? the reason they did that is probably cuz they figured they could get away with it since "everybody else was doing it"

and ppl reward companys for that, you dont see anyone buying avila gateworks routers even tho they are hands down the best consumer routers that exist by like, many many times over, we dont reward um for being good, we punish them for being slightly more expensive [which they are actually cheaper now lol] the market is crazy, thats why routers suck so bad. *cries*

 

[Pinchy]

I have an 8mbit download speed and I download at the full 8mbit whenever I go off fast aussie servers ...

 

[mrhuggles]

what counts most is when you are downloading and playing a game at the same time, something time sensitive like an online multiplayer 3d shooter

yay for QoS back in the days you couldnt possibly do more than 1 thing at once and expect to have any fun at all

 

[Easy Rhino]

are you talking about the t-1 line that only carries 1.54 mbps up and down? why would you want that when for a fraction of the cost you can get a 16mbit down 2 mbit up connection?

 

[mrhuggles]

when i had comcast they wernt 2mbit up, and also umm, well it would depend on latency, if the t1 was really low latency I'd rather have that, im not gonna pay 500 a month for internet :? i wish i could, but 1.5mbit is enough bandwidth for me, would be nice to have super low latency for gaming is all im *really* conserned with, my router can make sure that downloads dont get in the way of anything, and if they dont get in the way of anything, no need to have a massive downstream pipeline for me :?

sometimes i feel like im the only one in the world that feels that way... sept maybe that guy with the t1 yummy

 

[ktr]

Man, I had cable since it was known as Excite @ Home...which was around in 1996~1997. Before that I had ISDN, which cost around $100 a month.

 

[Easy Rhino]

UPDATE! so far so good. there have been only 2 occasions that the router has reboot itself, and when it does it fires up very quickly. also, i was streaming a 1080p x264 rip of transformers the other day with no packet loss. however, when the movie required more than 45 Mbps to stream it would skip a little, but that is fine because i am connected wirelessly at 54Mbps. so streaming an HD movie an avg of 25 Mbps no delays even while maxing out my 16Mbit internet connection with usenet, torrents and a separate laptop streaming music.

 

[niko084]

well my 6mbit down always maxes at 6mbit when im downloading 10 gig files from usenet. and i get a solid 1 mbit up when uploading via ftp. im happy with the connection speed, but i would like them to stop screwing with torrents.

Well let me let you in on a little secret....

If you have ever used a full pipe t1 thats wide open and not being used to a fast connection.

I have gotten SOLID upload speeds of 1500 KBps and solid download speeds of 1500 KBps... Not burst, we are talking about moving 20-30gb at a time.

T1's are guaranteed bandwidth, cables and dsl's are for burst, which is why they are faster then browsing the internet. But solid state throughput is much less.

My cable modem bursts over 30mbit, but I rarely ever see over 600-800 KBps on a good day.

Cable and DSL has a faster ability at its heart, but is pretty much always bottlenecked, or as you can set if you have ever played with a T router, you can set a burst limit and a nominal limit, its very common practice for isp's so their lines don't get flooded.

If you think about it, I live in an apartment building with over 300 apartments, if 1/2 of those have a cable modem which is highly likely to be higher, thats 150 apartments rated at 8mbit, so we have a 1200mbit connection to this apartment alone?

The main trunk lines running through the country are not big enough to consider handling the "city" I live in at those rates, let alone the country.

This is why I love T1's and so on, let alone you can strap them together. They are massively expensive for what you get unless you need them for business though, there is no doubt about that. But in practice when you are download and uploading they are much faster as a general whole.

Glad to hear you router is working well for you

 

[Snipermonkey2]

Well let me let you in on a little secret....

If you have ever used a full pipe t1 thats wide open and not being used to a fast connection.

I have gotten SOLID upload speeds of 1500 KBps and solid download speeds of 1500 KBps... Not burst, we are talking about moving 20-30gb at a time.

T1's are guaranteed bandwidth, cables and dsl's are for burst, which is why they are faster then browsing the internet. But solid state throughput is much less.

My cable modem bursts over 30mbit, but I rarely ever see over 600-800 KBps on a good day.

Cable and DSL has a faster ability at its heart, but is pretty much always bottlenecked, or as you can set if you have ever played with a T router, you can set a burst limit and a nominal limit, its very common practice for isp's so their lines don't get flooded.

If you think about it, I live in an apartment building with over 300 apartments, if 1/2 of those have a cable modem which is highly likely to be higher, thats 150 apartments rated at 8mbit, so we have a 1200mbit connection to this apartment alone?

The main trunk lines running through the country are not big enough to consider handling the "city" I live in at those rates, let alone the country.

This is why I love T1's and so on, let alone you can strap them together. They are massively expensive for what you get unless you need them for business though, there is no doubt about that. But in practice when you are download and uploading they are much faster as a general whole.

Glad to hear you router is working well for you

That must suck you never get to see over 800KBps. If I am downloading around 12am to 3am I can get on average 500-800KBps. Though I dont live in a city nor a apartment building I do get throttled sometimes by Comcast cause they are jerks, but I fixed that by using Tor.

 

[niko084]

That must suck you never get to see over 800KBps. If I am downloading around 12am to 3am I can get on average 500-800KBps. Though I dont live in a city nor a apartment building I do get throttled sometimes by Comcast cause they are jerks, but I fixed that by using Tor.

No I average between 500-600 peak times, and sometimes I even get lucky and get 1200 KBps... But like I said on the T1 I NEVER saw below 1400-1500KBps as long as I was on a decent server.

 

[Snipermonkey2]

No I average between 500-600 peak times, and sometimes I even get lucky and get 1200 KBps... But like I said on the T1 I NEVER saw below 1400-1500KBps as long as I was on a decent server.

I wish I had T1 or Fiso but I can't get or afford either.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Well let me let you in on a little secret....

If you have ever used a full pipe t1 thats wide open and not being used to a fast connection.

I have gotten SOLID upload speeds of 1500 KBps and solid download speeds of 1500 KBps... Not burst, we are talking about moving 20-30gb at a time.

T1's are guaranteed bandwidth, cables and dsl's are for burst, which is why they are faster then browsing the internet. But solid state throughput is much less.

My cable modem bursts over 30mbit, but I rarely ever see over 600-800 KBps on a good day.

Cable and DSL has a faster ability at its heart, but is pretty much always bottlenecked, or as you can set if you have ever played with a T router, you can set a burst limit and a nominal limit, its very common practice for isp's so their lines don't get flooded.

If you think about it, I live in an apartment building with over 300 apartments, if 1/2 of those have a cable modem which is highly likely to be higher, thats 150 apartments rated at 8mbit, so we have a 1200mbit connection to this apartment alone?

The main trunk lines running through the country are not big enough to consider handling the "city" I live in at those rates, let alone the country.

This is why I love T1's and so on, let alone you can strap them together. They are massively expensive for what you get unless you need them for business though, there is no doubt about that. But in practice when you are download and uploading they are much faster as a general whole.

Glad to hear you router is working well for you

thanks for the info. but i thought T1 lines were only rated at 1.45Mbps .

 

[mrhuggles]

i wish i had a t1 for low latency, if i was rich i would have a t1 i swear i would, like 500 a month :?