New build: Upgrading after 13 years!

[Dent1]

Hi all,

I have been away from the community for a few years, and I am completely lost.

I am planning on replacing my current PC (see my system spec tab), it has been well over 13 years old, it is struggling to play YouTube videos and it is generally slow.

I don't game much these days, but I need something which can handle games for my younger nephew (Fortnight, Rocket League, Brick Riggs, Age of Empires 3/4). But primarily I need a good multimedia experience, fluid web browsing, YouTube watching in HD, Netflix, spreadsheets, and occasionally encoding videos etc.

I don't plan to overclock, so need performance straight out of the box.

My budget is between £350-£450. I may keep my current PSU and SSD to keep the cost down.

Processor wise, I am considering the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G because its cheap (£125) and has integrated graphics. Given my requirements is this the best option for me? Would I get better value with a dedicated video card? Also, what dedicated video card would be equivalent to the one that is integrated in the Ryzen 5 5600G?

Also, I am open towards Intel too, as long as it fits my budget and has similar performance.

Thanks in advance.

 

[dragontamer5788]

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Age of Empires 3/4

Ewwwww. The community is on Age of Empires 2 Definitive for a reason

Would I get better value with a dedicated video card? Also, what dedicated video card would be equivalent to the one that is integrated in the Ryzen 5 5600G?

That's... difficult to say really. Dedicated absolutely is better, but it costs way way way more. Integrated kind of sucks. Even the Ryzen 5 5600G... even if its the "best integrated graphics", you're far far worse than the "worst dedicated". But a reasonable dedicated GPU is $150+ (I dunno the British prices). Thinking like Rx 6400 (which some would say is still crap btw). An extra $30 or so gets you to the Rx 6500xt and things are beginning to be reasonable...

Lets put it this way: a $180 GPU like the Rx 6500 will be way faster / more FPS / smoother than any iGPU, its not even close. However, $170 for the GPU + more for the CPU is obviously way over your budget. So you're in the price-range where you're getting "less FPS per dollar" so to speak. That's fine, I don't want to push you over your budget or anything, but its something you'll need to accept at the price range you're at.

Budget builds are great if you know exactly what you're aiming for, and if you're happy with the iGPU. But if it turns out you wanted something a bit faster, well... the $800ish to $1500ish price point is closer to the price/performance tradeoff that's more mainstream for a reason.

Honestly, if you're not sure, I'd err on the side of Rx 6500 or better. There's just a lot of video games out there, and it always feels bad when your "new and shiny" build can't play one of these new games. Even then, the Rx 6500 is on the rather low end, but its just about the lowest I'd be comfortable recommending to someone who is actually a "gamer".

But primarily I need a good multimedia experience, fluid web browsing, YouTube watching in HD, Netflix, spreadsheets, and occasionally encoding videos etc.

Yeah, a $35 Rasp. Pi 4 (https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/) can do all that. Lol. The issue here is the video games you've brought up. Video games tend to require a surprising amount of ooomph / GPU power, and that's where people spend their money for good reason. High end GPUs go up to $1500+ for a reason.

 

[dgianstefani]

Buy a used Dell workstation and put a GTX 1650 in it, more RAM and an SSD.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Hi all,

I have been away from the community for a few years, and I am completely lost.

I am planning on replacing my current PC (see my system spec tab), it has been well over 13 years old, it is struggling to play YouTube videos and it is generally slow.

I don't game much these days, but I need something which can handle games for my younger nephew (Fortnight, Rocket League, Brick Riggs, Age of Empires 3/4). But primarily I need a good multimedia experience, fluid web browsing, YouTube watching in HD, Netflix, spreadsheets, and occasionally encoding videos etc.

I don't plan to overclock, so need performance straight out of the box.

My budget is between £350-£450. I may keep my current PSU and SSD to keep the cost down.

Processor wise, I am considering the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G because its cheap (£125) and has integrated graphics. Given my requirements is this the best option for me? Would I get better value with a dedicated video card? Also, what dedicated video card would be equivalent to the one that is integrated in the Ryzen 5 5600G?

Also, I am open towards Intel too, as long as it fits my budget and has similar performance.

Thanks in advance.

A decent dedicated card would be better than any iGPU but getting one that satisfies your budget and requirements might be difficult. Some lower end AMD cards 6400/6500 didn't include encoder/decoder if I recall. If you get a dedicated GPU be sure to check if it has a video encoder/decoder for the formats you want to use. What encoding software are you using? I believe Intel iGPU's have in included encoder/decoder but worse graphics performance than AMD iGPU's.

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Add a decent iGPU and RAM and it's ready to go except perhaps for encoding and maybe ok for low end gaming.
If you can find a good CPU/GPU combo that might work too. Maybe AMD 3500x and GTX 1050/1650?

Since you already have a PSU you could probably get an equalivant or better case and motherboard for similar price as that package.
perhaps take a look at pcpart picker and customize it a bit https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/DWv6Mp/entry-level-amd-gaming-build

 

[Hyderz]

i had a quick look at amazon uk.... and found this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2E5DCWNJXHQUY&keywords=ryzen+5+1600+af&qid=1668654990&sprefix=ryzen+5+1600%2Caps%2C448&sr=8-2

this is a godly cpu for this price....

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-3600MHz-Desktop-KF436C17BBAK2-16/dp/B097HP4R26/ref=sr_1_6?crid=206TM0F16E7LD&keywords=16gb+ddr4+3600mhz+cl16&qid=1668655148&sprefix=16gb+ddr4+3600%2Caps%2C345&sr=8-6

ram

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have been away from the community for a few years

Welcome back!

My budget is between £350-£450. I may keep my current PSU and SSD to keep the cost down.

Good idea.

Processor wise, I am considering the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G because its cheap (£125) and has integrated graphics. Given my requirements is this the best option for me? Would I get better value with a dedicated video card? Also, what dedicated video card would be equivalent to the one that is integrated in the Ryzen 5 5600G?

That's a tough one. Have you given thought to the used market? You can get a Ryzen 5 2600 for cheap, a good B350 or B450 motherboard, 8GB of DDR4 and a Radeon RX5500 that will fit into that case and get within that stated budget. Those parts would leave your current parts in the dust. You'll likely even be able to reuse your heatsink.

Buy a used Dell workstation and put a GTX 1650 in it, more RAM and an SSD.

This could work well too!

 

[Dent1]

That's... difficult to say really. Dedicated absolutely is better, but it costs way way way more. Integrated kind of sucks. Even the Ryzen 5 5600G... even if its the "best integrated graphics", you're far far worse than the "worst dedicated". But a reasonable dedicated GPU is $150+ (I dunno the British prices). Thinking like Rx 6400 (which some would say is still crap btw). An extra $30 or so gets you to the Rx 6500xt and things are beginning to be reasonable...

I've done a bit of research on the RX 6500XT and most reviews are poor for value for money. In the UK cheapest pre-owned is £150 and £215 brand new.

I've read more positive reviews for RX5500 XT and the Nvidia 1660 super which is priced similarly but with better performance.

Saying that gaming is not my priority so I don't want to fall into the trap of buying an overpriced card for the sake of it.

Budget builds are great if you know exactly what you're aiming for, and if you're happy with the iGPU. But if it turns out you wanted something a bit faster, well... the $800ish to $1500ish price point is closer to the price/performance tradeoff that's more mainstream for a reason.

The few games I will play are old, and I am happy to drop in a faster card in a couple of years if my requirements change. I really don't want to spend $800-1500. The GBP is weak right now!

Buy a used Dell workstation and put a GTX 1650 in it, more RAM and an SSD.

I would rather build my own for flexibility, also Dell is quite expensive in the UK. I plan to keep my current SSD, 512GB Crucial MX100 SATA 2.5 SSD. Do you feel its due an upgrade too?

i had a quick look at amazon uk.... and found this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2E5DCWNJXHQUY&keywords=ryzen+5+1600+af&qid=1668654990&sprefix=ryzen+5+1600%2Caps%2C448&sr=8-2

Thanks I was considering the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (non-G) and AMD Ryzen 5 5600x only if I decide to buy a dedicated video card. The problem is midrange video cards are so expensive its effecting my budget of up to £450. Hence why I was leaning towards the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G

BTW other than the 200Mhz boost in clock speed what is the difference between the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 (non-G) and AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

this is a godly cpu for this price..

Welcome back!

Thanks its great to be back!

Good idea.

That's a tough one. Have you given thought to the used market? You can get a Ryzen 5 2600 for cheap, a good B350 or B450 motherboard, 8GB of DDR4 and a Radeon RX5500 that will fit into that case and get within that stated budget. Those parts would leave your current parts in the dust. You'll likely even be able to reuse your heatsink.


This could work well too!

I feel the Ryzen 5 2600 is too old (almost 4 years) although I am on a budget I need to get it as close to this generation as possible. I am open to the second hand market, keeping my eye on Ebay too

How does the RX5500 fair against the Nvidia 1660 super? as they are similar priced on ebay.

A decent dedicated card would be better than any iGPU but getting one that satisfies your budget and requirements might be difficult. Some lower end AMD cards 6400/6500 didn't include encoder/decoder if I recall. If you get a dedicated GPU be sure to check if it has a video encoder/decoder for the formats you want to use. What encoding software are you using? I believe Intel iGPU's have in included encoder/decoder but worse graphics performance than AMD iGPU's.

Thanks that is a good consideration, a few times a month I plan to record videos and encode using Camtasia. Does MD Ryzen 5 5600G include a encoder/decoder?

 

[kapone32]

You could get a 5600 and pair it with a 6500XT. That way you would be able to take advantage of PCIe 4.0 which matters at this end of the scale. RAM is inexpensive and you could get a used board (bios update) or a nice cheap B550. I had the 5600G in my HTPC and it Games ok but not at 1080P. The 6500XT is the bottom but a 6600/3060 would be faster. Wait for Black Friday and you should be able to snag one for cheap. As Rock is usually the cheapest(AMD) and their cards are pretty good. The MSI budget X570 lineup is maligned but those boards are perfect for a 65W CPU like the 5600.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Thanks that is a good consideration, a few times a month I plan to record videos and encode using Camtasia. Does MD Ryzen 5 5600G include a encoder/decoder?

Not sure. I haven't read people using the APU's like that. I was thinking more of Handbreak where you can utilize the hardware encoder of your CPU/GPU which I simply use for reencoding video for plex. Not sure how Camtasia supports encoders/decoders maybe someone with more experience can chime in and help you in that regard.

 

[SL2]

I may keep my current PSU and SSD to keep the cost down.

Old PSU's can destroy components when they give up. You should replace it just to be safe, even if you don't do it right now.

You could get a 5600 and pair it with a 6500XT. That way you would be able to take advantage of PCIe 4.0 which matters at this end of the scale.

By skipping PCIe 4 he could save money for a better graphics card that isn't as limited by PCIe 3. I'm assuming that he won't be upgrading again in several years given that it was 13 years since the last time, so even PCIe 4 will be ancient by that time.

Lowest prices in the UK, just for comparison:

Ryzen 5 4500 + B450 board + Radeon RX 6600: £410

Ryzen 5 5600 + B550 board + Radeon RX 6500 XT: £400

RAM is excluded, also the fact that it will cost a bit more in total as you probably won't find all the lowest prices in the same store. I'm just doing this to find the difference in cost.
Both these alternatives will go over budget with maybe £20 - 60 when including 16 GB RAM for £50 - 60, and maybe another £20 - 40 for not getting the lowest prices.

The Radeon RX 6600 is much faster, and it also has 8 GB. 4 GB doesn't really cut it these days, let alone in the long run.

The 12 thread Ryzen 5 4500 (Zen 2) is a slower CPU, but given what he uses it for I don't think it would matter much.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Processor wise, I am considering the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G because its cheap (£125)

I was expecting more people to defend the Ryzen 5 5600G, but no one really has yet. Lemme offer a contradicting post to my own post earlier.

Are you willing to play video games at 720p to 1080p / low settings? An iGPU like Ryzen 5 5600G can play games at 720p consistently, and can play the older games at 1080p at lower settings. If so, you can make due with a Ryzen 5 5600G.

Its far below the price/performance curve, but its also far far cheaper than other options discussed in this thread so far. You can of course upgrade to a dGPU later, assuming you have enough power left over from your power supply to support it, though PCIe 3.0 means it won't be quite as fast as a dedicated CPU with PCIe 4.0 (or later). Still, most PCIe 3.0 x16 cards aren't PCIe bound at all, so I don't really expect too many issues if you go for the "upgrade later" approach.

Does MD Ryzen 5 5600G include a encoder/decoder?

Eeehhhh, I'd just use a software encoder/decoder. What are you doing? Transcoding to H264? That's cake for a CPU these days. Its not like you're gonna be a Twitch streamer with this rig, you're barely able to get to 1080p consistently anyway (even if you do get a dGPU). I think you need to be more clear about what your encoding/decoding plans are.

But even then, modern CPUs are more than fast enough for single-task encoding/decoding (ie: pushing the "encode" button, walking away, and coming back later). I'd only worry about performance if you're doing some kind of realtime transcoding application (like streaming, or live productions).

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

A few points:
The 5600 is a chiplet-based CPU, essentially a 5600X with reduced power budget.
The 5600G without iGPU is called the 5500. The 5500 and 5600G have less L3 and are limited to PCIe 3.0.

Quite honestly, I would just go for the 5600G. Get some nice fast RAM to go with it and keep that SSD.

I have a laptop with a dGPU only slightly more powerful than the Vega 8 in a 5600G. If you are ok with low settings and lower frame rates, it will be plenty. It should be a quite nice HTPC as well.

If I can play through the campaign on Borderlands 3 and AC: Origins with my laptop, you will be fine with older/lighter games. Just don't expect massive frame rates and high details, and don't be afraid to bump down to 720p if necessary.

 

[SL2]

Parts from two stores, total: £448

I found this, the price for the RX 6600 is probably the best you can find:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cart/restore/a44f2e98eee0992135839def1a2b542c

Here's a board for £56:

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View our range of motherboards for both Intel and AMD processors, from all major manufacturers including ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI.

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The 5600 is a chiplet-based CPU, essentially a 5600X with reduced power budget.
The 5600G without iGPU is called the 5500. The 5500 and 5600G have less L3 and are limited to PCIe 3.0.

All four are 65 W.

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-5000-series

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Total: £448

I found this, the price for the RX 6600 is probably the best you can find:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cart/restore/a44f2e98eee0992135839def1a2b542c

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Here's a board for £56:

Full List of Motherboards available @ CCL | CCL

View our range of motherboards for both Intel and AMD processors, from all major manufacturers including ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI.

www.cclonline.com

It's a home/office build, I would spend the extra £15 for a 5500 for the Zen 3 goodness.

You can also get a 6500 XT for £170. This is probably a better deal and is more in line with what the OP has in mind.

All four are 65 W

Yer right. I meant lower clocks.

 

[SL2]

It's a home/office build, I would spend the extra £15 for a 5500 for the Zen 3 goodness.

Sure, but I was just trying to stay within budget, as opposed to earlier

You can also get a 6500 XT for £170. This is probably a better deal and is more in line with what the OP has in mind.

I summed up parts with PCIe 4 in a previous post, and that's close to the price I used.

The question is what his nephew has in mind. Also, I still doubt a 4 GB card is a good investment today.

I'd say either go for a RX 6600 (£450 in total), or just a Ryzen 5 5600G (£250 in total).

The 6500 XT isn't worth it IMO. To get full performance (15 % more) from the 6500 XT he needs PCIe 4, which cost more, like I described before.
That extra £70 for the RX 6600 gives incredible value, and double the VRAM.

With a 5600G he can always add a card later without having to replace anything, while a 6500 XT loses value fast.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I feel the Ryzen 5 2600 is too old (almost 4 years) although I am on a budget I need to get it as close to this generation as possible. I am open to the second hand market, keeping my eye on Ebay too

Given what you have, it's still a massive upgrade. However, if you find one on the cheap, a 3600X would hit the spot, but they are more pricey.

How does the RX5500 fair against the Nvidia 1660 super? as they are similar priced on ebay.

The 1660S is going to be better, again, if you can get one on the cheap. But as we see below, there is a better option..

Parts from two stores, total: £448

I found this, the price for the RX 6600 is probably the best you can find:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cart/restore/a44f2e98eee0992135839def1a2b542c

View attachment 270459

Here's a board for £56:

Full List of Motherboards available @ CCL | CCL

View our range of motherboards for both Intel and AMD processors, from all major manufacturers including ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI.

www.cclonline.com

All four are 65 W.

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-5000-series

That is actually a very good set of options! I hadn't thought about the 4500. Good value CPU!

 

[SL2]

That is actually a very good set of options! I hadn't thought about the 4500. Good value CPU!

Yeah, I think so, but the Ryzen 5 5500 is probably a better option if the difference is just £15. RAM and GPU are solid choices tho.

 

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[Wirko]

5600G and 5700G prices have dropped a lot lately and if the trend continues, even the 5700G may become a good value. It's just a small bit better than the 5600G in games but still it's an 8-core processor. Should be able to show its strength in things like transcoding or running several things at once.

 

[paulzhang]

Highly recommend to buy an AMD Ryzen 5 laptop, eg https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-IdeaPad-17-3-inch-Laptop/dp/B09S3YS9YV/

 

[Dent1]

Thanks everyone for your help thus far.

You could get a 5600 and pair it with a 6500XT. That way you would be able to take advantage of PCIe 4.0 which matters at this end of the scale. RAM is inexpensive and you could get a used board (bios update) or a nice cheap B550. I had the 5600G in my HTPC and it Games ok but not at 1080P. The 6500XT is the bottom but a 6600/3060 would be faster. Wait for Black Friday and you should be able to snag one for cheap. As Rock is usually the cheapest(AMD) and their cards are pretty good. The MSI budget X570 lineup is maligned but those boards are perfect for a 65W CPU like the 5600.

You can also get a 6500 XT for £170. This is probably a better deal and is more in line with what the OP has in mind.


Yer right. I meant lower clocks.

I have decided against the 6500XT mostly because the reviews are poor value for money. If I do buy it, it has to be heavily discounted online.

I don't want to spend more than £150 on a GPU. I am happy to look at the second-hand market. Are there any video cards from the last generation that could handily beat the 6500XT for cheaper? So far I am edging for the Nvidia 16600 Super.

5600G and 5700G prices have dropped a lot lately and if the trend continues, even the 5700G may become a good value. It's just a small bit better than the 5600G in games but still it's an 8-core processor. Should be able to show its strength in things like transcoding or running several things at once.

In the UK the 7600G and 7600x both retail at £209, and I can get the 5600 for £140 retail, so it's a big jump in cost.

Saying that I was momentarily considering the 7600x, but the cost of a cooling fan will add an additional cost. Is it possible to mod my existing AM2/AM3 cooler to fit on an AM4 motherboard. If we can get around this hurdle, I may be able to stretch to the 7600x. I do have a Good Sonic Tower 2 heatsink which I would like to recycle if possible.

Highly recommend to buy an AMD Ryzen 5 laptop, eg https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-IdeaPad-17-3-inch-Laptop/dp/B09S3YS9YV/

Good suggestion given my budget, but I am looking for a desktop. Need flexibility to upgrade.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Are there any video cards from the last generation that could handily beat the 6500XT for cheaper?

6500XT is the last generation. The 5500 XT ain't much better price/performance. NVidia has released 4xxx series and AMD is about to release 7xxx series.

I don't want to spend more than £150 on a GPU

6500XT is already over your budget. There's not much in that price point these days. 6400 XT is cheaper and probably in-and-around £150, but 6400 XT is even worse from price/performance. PCIe x4 lanes, worse performance, less RAM, etc. etc.

Nvidia 16600 Super.

A quickie check shows that's like twice your budget at £296.82?

I gave the 6500XT a mention because it was only a little bit above the budget but has a lot better price/performance over the 6400 XT. If you don't find that acceptable, I guess the iGPU is where you stay, but again, I recommend staying in 720p or lower-settings at 1080p. (Some games support intermediate resolutions, like 900p that really help bridge the gap and make iGPUs more usable).

I guess the NVidia answer at the price point is the NVidia 1650, closer to £170ish as far as I can tell.

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All of these low-end GPUs are worse price/performance than the mainstream cards at $300. That's the thing. Its just that $150ish price point still gets you a _HUGE_ upgrade over the iGPU. If you think an iGPU is sufficient for your purposes, the $150ish cards should be more than effective. If you "really" must stay below £150, only the 6400 really gets that cheap. (The 1630 from NVidia isn't actually cheaper than the 1650).

 

[Dent1]

6500XT is the last generation. The 5500 XT ain't much better price/performance. NVidia has released 4xxx series and AMD is about to release 7xxx series.



6500XT is already over your budget. There's not much in that price point these days. 6400 XT is cheaper and probably in-and-around £150, but 6400 XT is even worse from price/performance. PCIe x4 lanes, worse performance, less RAM, etc. etc.



A quickie check shows that's like twice your budget at £296.82?

I gave the 6500XT a mention because it was only a little bit above the budget but has a lot better price/performance over the 6400 XT. If you don't find that acceptable, I guess the iGPU is where you stay, but again, I recommend staying in 720p or lower-settings at 1080p. (Some games support intermediate resolutions, like 900p that really help bridge the gap and make iGPUs more usable).

I guess the NVidia answer at the price point is the NVidia 1650, closer to £170ish as far as I can tell.

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All of these low-end GPUs are worse price/performance than the mainstream cards at $300. That's the thing. Its just that $150ish price point still gets you a _HUGE_ upgrade over the iGPU. If you think an iGPU is sufficient for your purposes, the $150ish cards should be more than effective. If you "really" must stay below £150, only the 6400 really gets that cheap. (The 1630 from NVidia isn't actually cheaper than the 1650).

Hi, I should have said I am open to buying from the second hand market too to bring the prices down.

The cheapest 6500XT I found brand new is £159.99, £150 pre-owned on Ebay, £130 pre-owned in CEX

The cheapest 6600 Super I found for pre-owned on Ebay is £149, £160 pre-owned on CEX

Given the above options for the 6500XT and 6600 Super which is the best bang for the buck.

I plan on pulling the trigger on the graphics card tonight or tomorrow so I can focus on the CPU and other components.

 

[Wirko]

Hi, I should have said I am open to buying from the second hand market too to bring the prices down.

The cheapest 6500XT I found brand new is £159.99, £150 pre-owned on Ebay, £130 pre-owned in CEX

The cheapest 6600 Super I found for pre-owned on Ebay is £149, £160 pre-owned on CEX

Given the above options for the 6500XT and 6600 Super which is the best bang for the buck.

I plan on pulling the trigger on the graphics card tonight or tomorrow so I can focus on the CPU and other components.

There are a couple other options close enough to be mentioned - the 2060 (£175 on Ebay) and the 1660 Ti.

 

[Dent1]

Hi,

This is the build I have so far,I am unsure about the motherboard, open to suggestions for <£70

There are a couple other options close enough to be mentioned - the 2060 (£175 on Ebay) and the 1660 Ti.

Thanks I am happy to swap out the RX6500 for the 2060 or 16600Ti if the price is similar. Which is the fastest in order and are there any reviews with all 3 on the chart?

Also to throw a spanner in the works. Ebay has a unused Ryzen 7 5700g for £180. This is about £30 cheaper than brand new retail, and £40 more than the Ryzen 5 5500.