New High Performance, x86 Compatible Microprocessors from Centaur / VIA

[TheLostSwede]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1413180199106195457

 

[TheLostSwede]

Qnap Launches NAS With Chinese x86 CPU: Zhaoxin-Based Model Available Worldwide

Chinese CPU makes it into a generally available NAS

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Tralalak]

Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-U6580 vs. Intel Pentium Silver N6000
In the footsteps of Alder Lake - The rise of SMALL cores

source: https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=607246

 

[Tralalak]

 

[QuietBob]

Zhaoxin KaiXian KX-U6580 vs. Intel Pentium Silver N6000

Very interesting findings, thanks for sharing them here!

 

[Tralalak]

 

[Tralalak]

P.S. I'm not a PC player. I tried to play it.

 

[Tralalak]

EDIT:

 

[Tralalak]

New x86 processors from ZHAOXIN @ 2022

source: https://www.zhaoxin.com/news_view.aspx?nid=2&typeid=267&id=1397

 

[Flanker]

This isn't anything new, but I got to play with a U6780A at work. I don't how long I get to use it before my coworkers want it back. If anyone is interested in particular benchmarks let me know.

 

[Tralalak]

The new x86 VIA / Centaur CHA processor has been tested. Performance spoils the beats, the release is probably quite uncertain
source: https://www.cnews.cz/novy-x86-proce...-vykon-kazi-takty-vydani-je-asi-dost-nejiste/

 

[Fouquin]

CenTaur's lab in Texas was publicly liquidated betwen the 12th and 17th of February. The future of CHA and the CNS core architecture will likely appear only with Zhaoxin, and the remaining CHA processors and boards may appear in various places if whoever purchased the lots at auction has any intention of distributing them.

But if you'd like to see what they can do, one person at least got one and has been running it through the gauntlet.

 

[Tralalak]

The new Chinese CPU matches AMD with half the Cores and less consumption
source: https://cuba.detailzero.com/technol...with-half-the-Cores-and-less-consumption.html

This is first open benchmark 16-cores ZHAOXIN Kaisheng KH-40000 Series x86 processor at 2.7GHz. The Kaisheng KH-40000 Series x86 processors (code name YONGFENG) can go up to 32 cores and 64 cores (on a dual-socket platform)!

"Houston, we have a problem"

P.S. Don't forget, YONGFENG is very "similar" Centaur CNS microarchitecture.

 

[QuietBob]

Zhaoxin KH-4000 16c/16t, 32MB L3, 2.7GHz (?) all-core clock, 16nm node
Epyc 7601 32c/64t, 64MB L3, 2.7GHz all-core clock, 14nm node

Here's the complete set of results. The suite measures integer performance:

Benchmark descriptions
Very impressive showing for the Zhaoxin with only a quarter of threads, if the leak is reliable.

 

[Fouquin]

Forgot this thread exists. I have a few performance results.




It's not bad, but it's let down by very poor clock scaling.

 

[Tralalak]

New KH40000 results:

2 Processors, 32 Cores
ZHAOXIN KaiSheng KH-40000/16
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15706425

CentaurHauls Family 6 Model 71 Stepping 2 vs CentaurHauls Family 7 Model 11 Stepping 3
CNS vs KH-40000
L1 Instruction Cache is 64KB per core and this is differend from Centaur CNS
L3 Cache is 8MB per eight core cluster and this is differend from Centaur CNS with 16MB L3 cache per eight core
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/12878360?baseline=15706425

 

[Fouquin]

New KH40000 results:

2 Processors, 32 Cores
ZHAOXIN KaiSheng KH-40000/16
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15706425

CentaurHauls Family 6 Model 71 Stepping 2 vs CentaurHauls Family 7 Model 11 Stepping 3
CNS vs KH-40000
L1 Instruction Cache is 64KB per core and this is differend from Centaur CNS
L3 Cache is 8MB per eight core cluster and this is differend from Centaur CNS with 16MB L3 cache per eight core
source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/12878360?baseline=15706425

Interesting to see where the changes affect performance. Granted my baseline result is at 2420MHz, but the KH40000 looks to be lagging behind significantly in single-core performance despite sharing the fundamentals of the core pipeline. They must be incurring some penalty from the split cache.

 

[Tralalak]

Refreshed processor: higher frequencies and especially a new integrated graphics card

ZHAOXIN KaiXian KX-6000G (4C 3.2GHz, 4MB L2) with ZX C1080 GPU (SM6.0, 512MB, PCI) (D3D 11)
source: https://ranker.sisoftware.co.uk/sho...af92a385edd0e5c3bb86b791f491ac9cbac9f4cc&l=en
source: https://ranker.sisoftware.co.uk/sho...9bab8de4d9ff97aa8cf4c9ef8aefd2e2c4b78ab2&l=en

Chinese-Made Zhaoxin KX-6000G CPU With GT10C0 Integrated GPU Features The Same Performance As NVIDIA's GT 630

Chinese domestic chipmaker, Zhaoxin, is entering the realm of APUs with their first product, the KX-6000G CPU, offering a 1.5 TFLOPs GPU.

wccftech.com

Interesting performance for an integrated graphics core as a successor to IP S3 Graphics/VIA.

 

[Tralalak]

Zhaoxin KX-6000G and KH-40000 have been officially released:
source: https://www.zhaoxin.com/news_view.aspx?nid=2&typeid=268&id=1491

KX-6000G Series:​

source: https://www.zhaoxin.com/prod_view.aspx?nid=3&typeid=581&id=2410

KH-40000 Series​

source: https://www.zhaoxin.com/prod_view.aspx?nid=3&typeid=582&id=2411

 

[Tralalak]

Zhaoxin Kaixian® KX-7000 Series Processor

Zhaoxin launches Kaixian KX-7000 series high-performance desktop processors with x86 Century Avenue architecture


• 8 cores / 8 threads
• maximum working frequency of 3.7 GHz
• 4 MB L2 cache and 32 MB L3 cache
• supports dual-channel DDR5 memory with a maximum capacity of 128 GB
• integrated high-performance C-1190 iGPU graphics card, supports the latest APIs such as DX12, OpenCL 1.2 and OpenGL 4.6, support H.265 HEVC/H.264 AVC. DP/HDMI/VGA output, supports dual-channel 4K
• support for 24x PCIe 4.0, 2x USB 4 + 4x USB 3.2 Gen2 + 2x USB 2.0, 3x SATA Gen3 interface
• compatible with x86 32/64-bit instructions, SSE4.2/AVX/AVX2 extended instructions, SM2, SM3 and SM4 accelerated instructions
• supports virtualization technologies such as VT-x and VT-d 2.5
• LGA 1700 (45 mm x 37.5 mm)

source: https://www.zhaoxin.com/prod_view.aspx?nid=3&typeid=593&id=2757

 

[Tralalak]

CentaurHauls Family 7 Model 11 Stepping 1
Zhaoxin Kaixian KX-7000’s GeekBench scores revealed, performance doubled compared to previous generation
source: https://article.pchome.net/article/content-2173598.html

 

[Tralalak]

China’s Domestic Zhaoxin KX-7000 8-Core CPU Matches Skylake In Single-Core, Beats It In Multi-Core Tests In Stock & OC Benchmarks​

source: https://wccftech.com/china-domestic...e-single-core-beats-it-multi-core-benchmarks/

 

[Tralalak]

After a decade, Linus imitated Joel Hruska by changing the CPUID Centaur to Intel?
source: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/07/atom-nano-review/6/

 

[Fouquin]

After a decade, Linus imitated Joel Hruska by changing the CPUID Centaur to Intel?
source: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/07/atom-nano-review/6/

"The Concluder" is in every VIA/CenTaur engineering BIOS going back to at least 2007. Not sure how Linus "imitated" somebody by just using what's on the engineering boards.