New Ryzen 7 5800X3D low Cinebench R23 scores

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D
BIOS version: 1.2.0.6c (version 7C84v19)
OS: Win 11
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S (dual fans)
RAM: 2x16 GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4-3600 CL14
PC Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA GAMING
PSU: Corsair HX750 CMPSU-750HX 750W 80 PLUS SILVER

I've just installed my new Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU, confirmed that the RAM XMP profile is enabled in the BIOS and that the latest AMD chipset drivers are installed.
However I noticed lower than expected Cinebench R23 scores, avg 11,170. I've seen reviews such as HUB with scores around 14,000. Temperatures never go above 80 degrees during the benchmark runs. Any idea what is going on?

dont whant to set it"' · May 19, 2022

Did you change any other settings in BIOS such as core voltage or EDC/TDC?
Manually setting cpu supply lower than spec voltage drops my ones all core frequency considerably.

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

dont whant to set it' said:
Did you change any other settings in BIOS such as core voltage or EDC/TDC?
Manually setting cpu supply lower than spec voltage drops my ones all core frequency considerably.

No nothing. Just loaded the RAM XMP profile.

oobymach · May 19, 2022

You probably need to set PBO frequency offset +200 and adjust voltage curve in bios to get those scores.

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

oobymach said:
You probably need to set PBO frequency offset +200 and adjust voltage curve in bios to get those scores.

I can't find PBO anymore in the BIOS either under Overclocking/Advanced CPU configuration/AMD Overclocking or Overclocking/Advanced CPU configuration/AMD CBS.

tabascosauz · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
What is weird is that I can't find PBO anymore in the BIOS under Overclocking/Advanced CPU configuration/AMD Overclocking.

MSI has moved PBO out to the main CPU settings menu for awhile now. iirc should be just under main tweaker menu, maybe under Advanced CPU settings or something, can't remember exactly where on my Unify-X

1.2.0.6 BIOSes have been pretty buggy for most people. Wouldn't rule out just being a bad bios release, it's launch AGESA for X3D. Is there a 1.2.0.7 beta release for tomahawk yet?

What sort of effective clock in HWinfo are you hitting during Cinebench? 11000 is 6-core territory, clocks must be really low since 5800X3D isn't significantly cooler than 5800X and U12S is not that strong on 5800X

lowrider_05 · May 19, 2022

There is no Overclocking for the 5800x3d so not even pbo

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

tabascosauz said:
MSI has moved PBO out to the main CPU settings menu for awhile now. iirc should be just under main tweaker menu, maybe under Advanced CPU settings or something, can't remember exactly where on my Unify-X

1.2.0.6 BIOSes have been pretty buggy for most people. Wouldn't rule out just being a bad bios release, it's launch AGESA for X3D. Is there a 1.2.0.7 beta release for tomahawk yet?

What sort of effective clock in HWinfo are you hitting during Cinebench? 11000 is 6-core territory, clocks must be really low since 5800X3D isn't significantly cooler than 5800X and U12S is not that strong on 5800X

Unf MSI doesn't have an 1.2.0.7 beta release yet for this MOBO (nothing on their Google Drive 1.2.0.7 BIOS folder yet URL: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IKod5BkOPoR-T6Vg4htOApkwGNAfxFU_). I've raised a case with MSI just in case to check whether this might be caused by the BIOS.

lowrider_05 said:
There is no Overclocking for the 5800x3d so not even pbo

Yes that's what I thought too.

tabascosauz · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
No nothing. Just loaded the RAM XMP profile.

New build or drop-in upgrade from another CPU? New Win 11 install? Lots of background programs at start?

Might want to just run some R23 while watching the HWinfo window for clocks/power to make sure package power and effective clock are roughly where they should be

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

tabascosauz said:
New build or drop-in upgrade from another CPU? New Win 11 install? Lots of background programs at start?

Might want to just run some R23 while watching the HWinfo window for clocks/power to make sure package power and effective clock are roughly where they should be

Current system, just upgraded the CPU from the Ryzen 9 3900X to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Startup programs are kept to minimum.
Right now I am at work, so when I get home I will monitor HWInfo values. Thnx.

tabascosauz · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Current system, just upgraded the CPU from the Ryzen 9 3900X to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Startup programs are kept to minimum.
Right now I am at work, so when I get home I will monitor HWInfo values. Thnx.

If chipset drivers haven't updated new in the past week, the latest version seems a little buggy and throws tons of errors in install. First time didn't actually install properly so was slaughtering my 5900X clocks, had to reinstall. New CPU swap should have automatically wiped CMOS but doesn't hurt to make sure, if you updated to 1206c on 3900X.

Worst case, could just reflash v19 BIOS while you wait for v20 with 1207

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

tabascosauz said:
If chipset drivers haven't updated new in the past week, the latest version seems a little buggy and throws tons of errors in install. First time didn't actually install properly so was slaughtering my 5900X clocks, had to reinstall. New CPU swap should have automatically wiped CMOS but doesn't hurt to make sure, if you updated to 1206c on 3900X.

Worst case, could just reflash v19 BIOS while you wait for v20 with 1207

I will re-install the BIOS again when I go home to see if it helps.

Ruru · May 19, 2022

How about other benchmarks?

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

Lenne said:
How about other benchmarks?

Didn't have time for any other ones as I had to come to work. I will run AIDA64 when I go home.

Ruru · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Didn't have time for any other ones as I had to come to work. I will run AIDA64 when I go home.

Alright, just wondering that does it perform as it should in other benchmarks.

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

Update: Enabled PBO in BIOS. Cinebench R23 multicore result still 11,198. Attached are screen caps of HWinfo64 during AIDA64 stress test and CInebench R23 run. Something seems really off.

Ruru · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Update: Enabled PBO in BIOS. Cinebench R23 multicore result still 11,198. Attached are screen caps of HWinfo64 during AIDA64 stress test and CInebench R23 run. Something seems really off.

Try running 3dmark

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

Lenne said:
Try running 3dmark

Will do and post results. After changing the power plan from "AMD High Performance" to "AMD Ryzen Balanced", now I got 14,100 on Cinebench R23.

Calenhad · May 19, 2022

For reference FPS Review just posted a review and got 15k in R23, with similar enough hardware specs.

I don't see any boost happening in those screenshots. Core VID and core effective frequency never moved above base clock.

Deleted member 202104 · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Will do and post results. After changing the power plan from "AMD High Performance" to "AMD Ryzen Balanced", now I got 14,100 on Cinebench R23.

IIRC the Ryzen power profiles don’t apply to the 5000 series CPUs.

Try the standard windows power profiles and check the results.

You also might consider a fresh Windows install to start fresh with the latest chipset drivers.

Ruru · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Will do and post results. After changing the power plan from "AMD High Performance" to "AMD Ryzen Balanced", now I got 14,100 on Cinebench R23.

Did it help? I have High Performance with 3600.

Calenhad · May 19, 2022

Antonis_35 said:
Will do and post results. After changing the power plan from "AMD High Performance" to "AMD Ryzen Balanced", now I got 14,100 on Cinebench R23.

You actually shouldn't see any Ryzen power plans with up to date drivers and a 5000-series CPU. A clean install of the latest version of AMD drivers may be in order.

Chomiq · May 19, 2022

Max frequency of 3.4 Ghz, max core voltage of 0.96V. Yeah something's off here.

Calenhad said:
You actually shouldn't see any Ryzen power plans with up to date drivers and a 5000-series CPU. A clean install of the latest version of AMD drivers may be in order.

Yeah, 5000 series uses default windows powerplans.

QuietBob · May 19, 2022

Here's what it should look like, about five minutes into R23:

Your MT score of 14100 seems in the ballpark, I get 14700 with this setup. It looks like your AMD High Performance power plan was throttling the CPU somehow.

Antonis_35 · May 19, 2022

QuietBob said:
Here's what it should look like, about five minutes into R23:

View attachment 248026

Your MT score of 14100 seems in the ballpark, I get 14700 with this setup. It looks like your AMD High Performance power plan was throttling the CPU somehow.

With the default Windows Balanced profile, this is what I got during a Cinebench R23 run, with a final score of 13700. Hitting 90 degrees Celsius is not ideal for sure.

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