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Newegg Jumps the Gun with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465

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$280 :eek: ... another 5830 in the making ... :shadedshu

EDIT : Most will spend an extra $10-$30 and buy a HD5850 ... save a few NVFBs ... :nutkick:
 
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Its not everyday we see TPU being updated on Saturdays, much less with W1zzard being the one who posts
 

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the US is having there long weekend I guess, so Wizz is the man, thanks for the good read :rockout:
 

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leaving for computex in 10 hours, had to finish up the nvidia review for monday
 

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leaving for computex in 10 hours, had to finish up the nvidia review for monday
Safe trip! I shall await your return with pictures of booth babes :D
 
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Can't wait for the review, W1z. I love those easy-to-read graph comparisons. :D

Hope you used 257/cat 10.5! (...Just...kidding?)

Yeah, it looks to be about 85% of a 5850, which is pretty sad at this price point. I'm surprised it's not cheaper, knowing they're just clearing out Fermi chips before replacing it with the GF104 336sp GTX460. I guess they need to recoup SOME costs on the disaster. If you've seen those early tests of the 460, and see 460/465 perform the same, I would wonder why anyone would buy this knowing that was coming VERY shortly. Not only for a lower price, but with a much lower TDP.

This is not to mention the...let's call it GTX475...almost certainly replacing the 470 with the same GF104 die using the full 384sp and likely a 750mhz clock at some point.

When you factor in the 490 (dual-gf104) card replacing the 480, it's really all about how quickly nVIDIA can get rid of GF100 Fermi dies to poor unsuspecting individuals before dropping the GF104...which they'll undoubtedly hail as a godsend miracle of Fermi-like performance at a lower-price and power-usage.
 
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should be 200.
 

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Safe trip! I shall await your return with pictures of booth babes :D
As will I. plenty of girls please. I would like the high res pictures sent to the email on file. Thank you w1zzard :)
 
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I think the reason they jumped the gun is due to it being Memorial day weekend for the states.. You won't get it processed til Tuesday, or late Monday.. So, will ship after nda is done..
 
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well, if it performs as this guy's benchmarks report then it is well worth it and i believe better bang for buck than the HD 5850. but if it performs as xbitlab's benchmarks report then.....not so much.
 

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well, if it performs as this guy's benchmarks report then it is well worth it and i believe better bang for buck than the HD 5850. but if it performs as xbitlab's benchmarks report then.....not so much.
I wouldnt look to that thread as I think most will wait for Wizz to post his review, He always run's a consistent review on all hardware and keeps it fair :toast:
 

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As will I. plenty of girls please. I would like the high res pictures sent to the email on file. Thank you w1zzard :)
Booth babes stopped being cool in the 80's, now it's just pathetic. Seriously, you might as well watch softcore porn.

With that said, can't wait for the review w1z!
 
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I think its a decent card, but all considering, you can get a 5850 for about $280 to $310 and considering how a stock GTX470 barely edges out a stock 5850 this is going to be slower but a good replacement for the GTX285 if yours has gone bad, I wouldn't buy it but it looks like a decent card better than the 5830 for the price and performance.
 
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Two of these in SLI look perfect for my GPU upgrade next month. If their SLI scaling is anything like other 4xx parts (nearly 100% in some titles), then that is some great value right there.
 
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$279 Nice! I have to sell my gtx285 soon and pick up a 465;)
 

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Yeah, it looks to be about 85% of a 5850, which is pretty sad at this price point. I'm surprised it's not cheaper, knowing they're just clearing out Fermi chips before replacing it with the GF104 336sp GTX460. I guess they need to recoup SOME costs on the disaster. If you've seen those early tests of the 460, and see 460/465 perform the same, I would wonder why anyone would buy this knowing that was coming VERY shortly. Not only for a lower price, but with a much lower TDP.

This is not to mention the...let's call it GTX475...almost certainly replacing the 470 with the same GF104 die using the full 384sp and likely a 750mhz clock at some point.

When you factor in the 490 (dual-gf104) card replacing the 480, it's really all about how quickly nVIDIA can get rid of GF100 Fermi dies to poor unsuspecting individuals before dropping the GF104...which they'll undoubtedly hail as a godsend miracle of Fermi-like performance at a lower-price and power-usage.
Hmm that's not quite right. GF104 should be 256 shaders max and that is GTX 460. You can't add something that's not in the core. Whole point of GF 104 is to make a simpler core that is cheaper to make and easier to cool, so it can be sold as performance segment card.

GF100 isn't going anywhere, what you can get is B revison of the core that is more efficient power wise.

the 490/495 will be GTX 465x2, GTX 460 won't be powerful enough to beat 5890. Way to do it is to use 448 shaders from GTX 470 and rest of GTX 465 and then clock it so that it's the fastest graphics card.

For the GTX 475, how would 384 shaders beat current 448 ?) You simply can't have a GTX 475 as that is current GTX 480, it has one shader cluster more. You only can get a GTX 485 with full 512 and I bet they are already saving those.

The listings also confirm the rumored specifications of 352 shaders cores, 1 GB memory, 256-bit memory interface and clock speeds of 607 MHz core / 1215 MHz shader.

Our review will be ready on time and posted when the NDA is expired.
If only it was 384 cores and TMU + rest in similar way, then it would be a serious contender to 5850 at a cheaper price and we might have finally see 5850 drop it's price first time ever in 8 months!

Now I know why I saw W1zzard lurking on the GTX 465 thread few days back, think his card was on it's way then :)

But seriously this is very suspicious that two companies can release so many cards that aren't direct competitions. It goes 5970->480->5870->470->5850->465->5830->(460)->5770->(450) from fastest to slowest and from most expensive to cheapest.

Come on EU or someone, fine them both, so I can get a new GPU at a reasonable price. I want price wars! :laugh:
 
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Hmm maybe I will pick up 2 for SLI...
 
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$280 :eek: ... another 5830 in the making ... :shadedshu

EDIT : Most will spend an extra $10-$30 and buy a HD5850 ... save a few NVFBs ... :nutkick:
careful, I got infracted for posting a bad nvidia based name. That aside I think newegg has done this with a lot of different cards lately, happened with the 5830, and the nvidia 480's and 470's
 

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Booth babes stopped being cool in the 80's, now it's just pathetic. Seriously, you might as well watch softcore porn.

With that said, can't wait for the review w1z!
maybe to you. :shadedshu
 
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I wanna bet, the performance will fall in between the 5830 ($230) and 5850 ($300) being closer to the former, replacing the GTX285. I think it'll be overpriced :ohwell:
 

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careful, I got infracted for posting a bad nvidia based name. That aside I think newegg has done this with a lot of different cards lately, happened with the 5830, and the nvidia 480's and 470's
Ha Infract me for being bios towards the Green team, :nutkick:
green blows as red sucks, and I mean it in the best posible way lol

But any way nice gpu, but I agree it's not the gpu to get :eek:

Thats all :rolleyes:
 
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Wizz Vring Us Teh Booth Babes!
 
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Yay Wizz's updates would be in the same timezone as me lol