no display with new GPU

[himendra]

That's why i said get a shitty CPU from CEX, just to test the setup with.

i cantttt

You can use an old monitor with a new-ish graphics card with the right converter (not the same as adapter!) as long as it's not ancient, well, you could as long as you have a DAC and some knowledge but I doubt OP has an IBM 5151 as a display anyway.

As for the pads... I really doubt the warranty would want to take care of that, they'll most likely blame it as an user fault or problem with the motherboard. The mobo manufacturer won't replace a CPU as it's not their thing and say sorry have a nice day, it's bureaucracy hell.

oh, i hope they do take care of it lets see what happens

You can use an old monitor with a new-ish graphics card with the right converter (not the same as adapter!) as long as it's not ancient, well, you could as long as you have a DAC and some knowledge but I doubt OP has an IBM 5151 as a display anyway.

As for the pads... I really doubt the warranty would want to take care of that, they'll most likely blame it as an user fault or problem with the motherboard. The mobo manufacturer won't replace a CPU as it's not their thing and say sorry have a nice day, it's bureaucracy hell.

 

[Mussels]

You can use an old monitor with a new-ish graphics card with the right converter (not the same as adapter!) as long as it's not ancient, well, you could as long as you have a DAC and some knowledge but I doubt OP has an IBM 5151 as a display anyway.

As for the pads... I really doubt the warranty would want to take care of that, they'll most likely blame it as an user fault or problem with the motherboard. The mobo manufacturer won't replace a CPU as it's not their thing and say sorry have a nice day, it's bureaucracy hell.

Never add un-needed complexity to troubleshooting. Ever.


I dont think warranty will cover this, i know warranty doesnt cover bent pins. They'll likely say it was user error.

 

[micropage7]

yaaa, the processor is under warranty, should i simply send it back to them? what should i explain in the email? that the processor pads are damaged????

first i think it has bad contact area, it looks from the socket and i dunno you have high humidity there or not
and if you consider replacing your processor, just take some notes that the old socket is fine so the same problem not happened again or this is the time to upgrade the board and the processor too

 

[himendra]

first i think it has bad contact area, it looks from the socket and i dunno you have high humidity there or not
and if you consider replacing your processor, just take some notes that the old socket is fine so the same problem not happened again or this is the time to upgrade the board and the processor too

wait wait ... the socket is bad? ure deriving this from the damage or u saw something in the pics or videos? coz last i was trying to look at the socket pins they didn't seem bent to me. the humidity is normal here its a very hot area here whole year. if the socket is bad then its a big prob.

Never add un-needed complexity to troubleshooting. Ever.


I dont think warranty will cover this, i know warranty doesnt cover bent pins. They'll likely say it was user error.

hmmm lets see what they say.m waiting for the reply. it was sunday yestday

 

[Mussels]

The socket is 50% of the equation there, we cant rule out that the socket got damaged by whatever damaged the CPU - or that the socket *caused* the damage.
We simply dont know how that damage occured - was it damaged out of the PC, or was it while in the socket?



I'll try and find a pin-map for the socket/CPU and see what they line up with.

This would have been a lot more fun with system. specs. posted. as i had to re-read the entire thread again to find the motherboard socket. Still no idea what CPU, fortunately doesnt seem to matter.

Looks like you burned out a VCC-Sense and VCC-sense pin, one of each. Voltage readings.


Were you doing overclocking, or did you short anything out at any point while the system was powered on?

 

[micropage7]

wait wait ... the socket is bad? ure deriving this from the damage or u saw something in the pics or videos? coz last i was trying to look at the socket pins they didn't seem bent to me. the humidity is normal here its a very hot area here whole year. if the socket is bad then its a big prob.


hmmm lets see what they say.m waiting for the reply. it was sunday yestday

actually not bent just it is like lack of pressure, so little contact would leave burnt mark and it will eat the copper
it looks like when you plug in something to power cord and bad contact will spark fire and leave pit and burn mark

 

[himendra]

The socket is 50% of the equation there, we cant rule out that the socket got damaged by whatever damaged the CPU - or that the socket *caused* the damage.
We simply dont know how that damage occured - was it damaged out of the PC, or was it while in the socket?



I'll try and find a pin-map for the socket/CPU and see what they line up with.

This would have been a lot more fun with system. specs. posted. as i had to re-read the entire thread again to find the motherboard socket. Still no idea what CPU, fortunately doesnt seem to matter.

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Looks like you burned out a VCC-Sense and VCC-sense pin, one of each. Voltage readings.


Were you doing overclocking, or did you short anything out at any point while the system was powered on?

the motherboard is msi z370 A pro, and processor is i5 9400f.
nono i wasnt overclocking i dont even know how to do that.
the problem first was the computer would turn on and off, also the computer was running slow also just before this problem arose.
my random guess was that maybe the power extension board is bad or something cause i use that.

 

[Mussels]

It's either the PSU is bad, the mobo is bad, the CPU was installed incorrectly (cooler over tightened to one side, leading to bad contact and shorting?), or CPU was damaged outside of the system (something on the pins that caused them to corrode)

Theres unfortunately no way to narrow that down without more evidence or repeated damage

 

[himendra]

It's either the PSU is bad, the mobo is bad, the CPU was installed incorrectly (cooler over tightened to one side, leading to bad contact and shorting?), or CPU was damaged outside of the system (something on the pins that caused them to corrode)

Theres unfortunately no way to narrow that down without more evidence or repeated damage

hmmmmmmmmm im ready for anything now, lets see what happens, i have already talked to a dealer and talked about this, he says the same thing about warranty. let us see let us seeeee

 

[Mussels]

Hey look on the bright side - you had a really rare problem show up, so you've got a cool story out of it


After you find out about warranty, you can progress from there. You might be fine with just a new CPU, and the 9400F at least isn't stupidly expensive to replace (And while it's sad to lose performance, there is the option of even a cheap i3 just go get it working)

 

[himendra]

Hey look on the bright side - you had a really rare problem show up, so you've got a cool story out of it


After you find out about warranty, you can progress from there. You might be fine with just a new CPU, and the 9400F at least isn't stupidly expensive to replace (And while it's sad to lose performance, there is the option of even a cheap i3 just go get it working)

hahhahahaahahah ya ya im happy finally that it will work, coz its my gfs computer, and we are dying to play coop games together, asa it starts working whatever it takes we start gaming together again thanks

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

it looks like when you plug in something to power cord and bad contact will spark fire and leave pit and burn mark

That's like the problem I saw with our very-low-voltage north-American outlets. Common with loosely-fitted plugs. Same with old outlets.
I saw this with hanging out prongs for a microwave!

 

[de.das.dude]

the motherboard is msi z370 A pro, and processor is i5 9400f.
nono i wasnt overclocking i dont even know how to do that.
the problem first was the computer would turn on and off, also the computer was running slow also just before this problem arose.
my random guess was that maybe the power extension board is bad or something cause i use that.

where did you by your system from?

looks like you are from India as well. MSI boards dont cope well with our hot climate, hope you live in a cool place/have AC.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

MSI boards dont cope well with our hot climate, hope you live in a cool place/have AC.

The MSI B450 Tomahawk, seems to hold well. I've had more trouble with the MSI Gaming X Radeon RX 5600 XT than I did with the motherboard. I loved that card, but it should have had a dual-VBIOS!

 

[de.das.dude]

The MSI B450 Tomahawk, seems to hold well. I've had more trouble with the MSI Gaming X Radeon RX 5600 XT than I did with the motherboard. I loved that card, but it should have had a dual-VBIOS!

you too stay in places where outside temp gets to 45C? lol
I expected vermont to be a lot cooler tbh

 

[himendra]

guys intel replaced the processor with the i5 9600k.
i just installed it
But its the same problem. no display. and the debug light says its the CPU.
what to do? the socket looks fine to me, what shud it do? im thinking of sending the whole computer to some shop where some technical person can find whats wrong with it.

 

[AlwaysHope]

OP, have you got another board to try that cpu in? I haven't read all of this thread but get the gist of what's going on. First thing that comes to my mind after your latest comment is the motherboard itself causing issues.

 

[himendra]

where did you by your system from?

looks like you are from India as well. MSI boards dont cope well with our hot climate, hope you live in a cool place/have AC.

bought al the parts online from amazon, i live in ahdmedabad its hot here except in winters.

OP, have you got another board to try that cpu in? I haven't read all of this thread but get the gist of what's going on. First thing that comes to my mind after your latest comment is the motherboard itself causing issues.

yes i have another computer, but im scared to even touch that right now. lets see what the repair guy says, m gona take it to the shop

 

[de.das.dude]

bought al the parts online from amazon, i live in ahdmedabad its hot here except in winters.


yes i have another computer, but im scared to even touch that right now. lets see what the repair guy says, m gona take it to the shop

i have been to ahmedabad *in* winter. Apart from night time, winters are hot as well haha.

 

[himendra]

yo guys, i got my motherboard repaired just yesterday. yes, all this time this has been going on. finally the display is working, and the whole process includes, getting gpu replaced, getting the processor replaced (both under warranty), and then after such a long time getting motherboard repaired twice. the display has come up. however theres no boot device. turns out, the gigabyte 240gb ssd is not detected in the msi bios. ive checked the sata slots the sata cables, theyre fine, the ssd seems like its getting powered, coz its vibrating when i touch it but its not getting detected at all. any help?
i have a wd internal 1tb hdd also installed and its there in the bios menu. windows 10 was installed in the ssd.

also i want to thank you guys man, thank you for being so kind and helping me through this, i learnt a lot from you. thank you

 

[Mussels]

SSD's do *not* vibrate.

In what BIOS screen are you looking for it? it wont show as bootable in UEFI mode, until an OS is installed

 

[himendra]

vibration means the little shakes. i guess it dsnt have anything inside that rotates like in the older HDDs but lol it maybe just he pcs normal vibrations.

i had installed windows 10 in it already. ive been using it. ill post the sceens below.

1.in the easy mode/storage (the ssd isnt showing)

2.then in the BOARD EXPLORER also the SATA port says "empty"
3. also i want to show that i have used the same power cable coming from the PSU to power both the HDD and the SSD, earlier i was using 2 separate cables from PSU. does that make a diff?????

 

[Chomiq]

vibration means the little shakes. i guess it dsnt have anything inside that rotates like in the older HDDs but lol it maybe just he pcs normal vibrations.

i had installed windows 10 in it already. ive been using it. ill post the sceens below.

1.in the easy mode/storage (the ssd isnt showing)

2.then in the BOARD EXPLORER also the SATA port says "empty"
3. also i want to show that i have used the same power cable coming from the PSU to power both the HDD and the SSD, earlier i was using 2 separate cables from PSU. does that make a diff?????
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That SATA power cable looks to be connected at a wrong angle.

 

[himendra]

That SATA power cable looks to be connected at a wrong angle.

nonono its fine, the sata power cable cant even plug in if i have the wrong angle. still the ssd isnt getting detected

 

[Ruru]

You mentioned that you checked the SATA cables, have you tried an another SATA data cable? They can break sometimes.