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No New GPUs from AMD for the Bulk of 2013

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AMD's product manager for desktop graphics products Devon Nekechuk, in an interview with Japanese publication 4Gamer.net, revealed that his firm won't be launching any new Radeon GPUs in 2013, and that the company would instead play out the year on its current Radeon HD 7000 series' performance, with price adjustments and possible performance increments through driver updates. In a slide released to 4Gamers.net, AMD pointed that its Radeon HD 7900 series (high-end), HD 7800 series (performance), and HD 7700 series (mainstream), will carry on the company's mantle "throughout 2013."

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Is AMD cash strapped? LOL
 
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I too am ok with this for reasons people are stating above and below me here. I might consider upgrading every generation if I was biannual.
 
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I am ok with this, GPU's were coming out way to fast. Games can't even keep up. My 7950 at 1200 core destroys everything at 1080p... so yeah, I could care less.

inb4that1response "omg u must not have tried witcher 2 with ubersampling turned on"

go shove a pole up your ass u retard. lulz.
also i did try the witcher 2 at ultra with ubersampling at 1080p on my 7970 stock clocks and it runs perfectly fine
 
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Its clear that AMD wants to focus on the lauch of new PS and Xbox, they will need alot of fab capacity for those...

Also whats the point of releasing new series where top GPU does 20-30% better than previous gen for double the price? I am glad that they realised their current card have alot of potential and I hope we will see alot of driver improvements.

EDIT: for what is said above for Witcher 2, I played it with max graphics and ubersampling on 1900x1200 with a single overclocked 7970 and is was perfectly fine.
 

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well you get my point, lol.
 
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well you get my point, lol.
Yeah we do.

Actually i wanted to add that it is lame that they advertise their card's performance based on a single benchmark....
 
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I am ok with this, GPU's were coming out way to fast. Games can't even keep up. My 7950 at 1200 core destroys everything at 1080p... so yeah, I could care less.

inb4that1response "omg u must not have tried witcher 2 with ubersampling turned on"

go shove a pole up your ass u retard. lulz.
Its not about that its about progress, faster and cheaper cards for us the poor folks.

Also whats the point of releasing new series where top GPU does 20-30% better than previous gen for double the price?
double the price - where did you get that ?
if newer cards comes out the current ones always will decrease in price at best the new ones will come at the old ones lauch prices so nowhere double; almost noone will buy them if they just double the $$$.

EDIT: for what is said above for Witcher 2, I played it with max graphics and ubersampling on 1900x1200 with a single overclocked 7970 and is was perfectly fine.
it better max it for a $500 graphics card that dx9 game.
 

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So AMD, the ones that started the accelerated generation jumps to make their weak products look better are now deciding not to do that? Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it, but I think they'll release HD8000 sooner than we think.

And seriously they put the HD7970 GHz edition ahead of the GTX680, way to mislead by using just one benchmark...
 
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Dave Baumann comment

The slide doesn't go to less granulatity than "product series"; that leaves a lot of wiggle room. Beside, new products have been launched recently and the slides indicate that there will be more in the near future.
 
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I prefer it this way. If this means that they'll launch a much bigger HD8000 series perfect. And if this translates to better driver support including Linux, good.
 

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So AMD, the ones that started the accelerated generation jumps to make their weak products look better are now deciding not to do that? Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it, but I think they'll release HD8000 sooner than we think.

And seriously they put the HD7970 GHz edition ahead of the GTX680, way to mislead by using just one benchmark...
The 7970 GHZ outperforms the 680 in most of the current games not only benchmarks.
 

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AMD fails again. Could 2014 AMD Radeon "HD 8970" Fail Edition compete with nVidia's next high end chip (~30 percent faster than Titan). I think not.
 

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The 7970 GHZ outperforms the 680 in most of the current games not only benchmarks.
No it doesn't overall they are equal:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_II/images/perfrel.gif

And if you prefer a few modern games to an actual idea of performance.

Assassin's Creed 3 GTX680 Outperforms HD7970-GHz:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_II/images/ac3_1920_1200.gif

Batlefield 3 HD7970-GHz outperforms GTX680:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_II/images/bf3_1920_1200.gif

Borderland 2 GTX680 outperforms HD7970-GHz:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_II/images/borderlands2_1920_1200.gif

Far Cry 3 HD7970-GHz outperforms GTX680:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/ARES_II/images/farcry3_1920_1200.gif

They trade blows in modern games, that is why I said OVERALL they are equal.
 
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Its not about that its about progress, faster and cheaper cards for us the poor folks.
You can't afford $269.99 free ship with a $20 rebate and 3 free games making the card viably less than $200? That's how much I paid for my Sapphire 7950 on a Newegg sale... :rolleyes:
 

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Yes, that is relative means overall performance, they are synonymous. Notice how I said overall in my original statement. Also notice how in the game benchmarks the cards trade blows, again OVERALL performance is equal.

Also, no the wasn't with 12.11 BETA, the AMD cards used 13.1 and the nVidia cards used 310.70, which is kind of a disadvantage to nVidia since 313.96 actually brought some significant gains in some of the games used in the benchmark suite.
 
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This is good news as I just bought my card, so it wont be obsolete for a long while.

Also, with the driver rewrites coming things are looking up.
 
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4% difference in the 7970's favor sounds pretty equal to me.
 
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And seriously they put the HD7970 GHz edition ahead of the GTX680, way to mislead by using just one benchmark...
Well, these kind of marketing stuff are BS 99% of the time as usual.
No surprise.
 
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lies, they just want to see what NVIDIA going to release, in all times AMD(ATI) release series and NVIDIA respond with a bit more performance, now i think things going to reverse.
 

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It is certainly a lot more equal than the 15% difference AMD is claiming(and basing their strategy on?).:laugh:

Well, these kind of marketing stuff are BS 99% of the time as usual.
No surprise.
Oh of course, nVidia does the same thing with their graphs that start at 100% to make the 2-5% improvements seem like huge jumps.
 
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You can't afford $269.99 free ship with a $20 rebate and 3 free games making the card viably less than $200? That's how much I paid for my Sapphire 7950 on a Newegg sale... :rolleyes:
Obviously i was not not lucky enough to be born in a more civilized country like you (in the god forsaken place where i live 7950's are at least $500-$600 and the ones that actually come with a game are even higher) otherwise i wouldnt bitching around about it.


It is certainly a lot more equal than the 15% difference AMD is claiming(and basing their strategy on?).:laugh:
Oh of course, nVidia does the same thing with their graphs that start at 100% to make the 2-5% improvements seem like huge jumps.
even this shows them equal.
 
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AMD fails again. Could 2014 AMD Radeon "HD 8970" Fail Edition compete with nVidia's next high end chip (~30 percent faster than Titan). I think not.
I think it's a little ridiculous to pronounce the downfall of AMD's graphics cards over this.

For one thing, a lot of the signs had already been pointing to there being no new series of cards from either AMD or Nvidia this year, at least till the Christmas timeframe. It's likely that the GTX Titan will be the only new card before Christmas unless something unexpected happens.

For another, we don't know what Nvidia is going to do with this Titan card. We don't know if it's just a standalone release or if it will get the GTX 780 label, and we definitely don't know that their next chip will beat it or when it will be released.

Not only that, but a $900 single GPU card is more or less not going to change the current GPU world at all. It doesn't compete with any single GPU card because it's so expensive, and it doesn't look set to really do much to dethrone the current dual-GPU setups from AMD or Nvidia that are already here (690/7990 and equivalent dual-card configs).

AMD and Nvidia have been very even this round, which is a great thing for consumers. It looks like they're going to remain more or less even throughout the year (though AMD fans may get their feelings hurt a bit that Nvidia will have the fastest single GPU). Hopefully it will continue next year with new releases from both sides.