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NVIDIA Announces New CMP Series Specifically Designed for Cryptocurrency Mining; Caps Mining Performance on RTX 3060

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This is a big one: NVIDIA has officially announced a new family of products specifically designed to satiate the demand coming from cryptocurrency mining workloads and farms. At the same time, the company has announced that the RTX 3060 launch driver will include software limitations for cryptocurrency mining workloads specifically correlated with Ethereum mining, essentially halving the maximum theoretical hashrate that could be achieved from a purely hardware perspective. The new family of products, termed CMP (Crypto Mining Processor) series, will see its products under the HX branding, and will be available in four different tiers: 30HX, 40HX, 50HX and 90HX. These products will not have any display outputs, and therefore are not applicable for gaming scenarios.

NVIDIA's stance here is that their new product will bring some justice in the overall distribution of its GeForce graphics cards, which are marketed and meant for gaming workloads. The new cryptocurrency-geared series will be distributed by NVIDIA authorized partners in the form of ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, Palit, and PC Partner (more may be added down the line). There is currently no information on what silicon actually powers these graphics cards; and of course, the success of this enterprise depends on A) the driver restrictions not being limited to the RTX 3060 graphics card - it isn't clear from NVIDIA's press release if other RTX 30-series graphics cards will see the same performance cap. Even if NVIDIA did release those drivers, however, cryptocurrency miners would just opt to, well, not update them. So it is possible that NVIDIA will release a revision of the RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 Ti with silicon enhancements that will only work with the latest GeForce drivers - after allowing the channels to move all of their existing, cryptocurrency-enabled stock.





The other factor is, of course, pricing: miners will always look after the best price/performance ratio, even more so than gamers; and as such, the scenario can be imagined that were NVIDIA to add a tax to these products' based on their cryptocurrency mining nature, miners would still opt for GeForce products. The 30HX and 40HX will be made available in 1Q of this year, while the more powerful 50HX and 90HX will only hit retail come 2Q. NVIDIA finally did decide to take the matter into their own hands, in a move that not only accompanies their general "we're for the gamers" stance with more than words, while simultaneously insulating themselves from lawsuits targeting any possible inclusion of mining sales under their gaming division financials. I'll allow myself some emotion now: finally!

The NVIDIA Press Release follows:

We are gamers, through and through. We obsess about new gaming features, new architectures, new games and tech. We designed GeForce GPUs for gamers, and gamers are clamoring for more.

Yet NVIDIA GPUs are programmable. And users are constantly discovering new applications for them, from weather simulation and gene sequencing to deep learning and robotics. Mining cryptocurrency is one of them.

With the launch of GeForce RTX 3060 on Feb. 25, we're taking an important step to help ensure GeForce GPUs end up in the hands of gamers.

Halving Hash Rate
RTX 3060 software drivers are designed to detect specific attributes of the Ethereum cryptocurrency mining algorithm, and limit the hash rate, or cryptocurrency mining efficiency, by around 50 percent.

That only makes sense. Our GeForce RTX GPUs introduce cutting-edge technologies — such as RTX real-time ray-tracing, DLSS AI-accelerated image upscaling technology, Reflex super-fast response rendering for the best system latency, and many more — tailored to meet the needs of gamers and those who create digital experiences.

To address the specific needs of Ethereum mining, we're announcing the NVIDIA CMP, or, Cryptocurrency Mining Processor, product line for professional mining.

CMP products — which don't do graphics — are sold through authorized partners and optimized for the best mining performance and efficiency. They don't meet the specifications required of a GeForce GPU and, thus, don't impact the availability of GeForce GPUs to gamers.

For instance, CMP lacks display outputs, enabling improved airflow while mining so they can be more densely packed. CMPs also have a lower peak core voltage and frequency, which improves mining power efficiency.

Creating tailored products for customers with specific needs delivers the best value for customers. With CMP, we can help miners build the most efficient data centers while preserving GeForce RTX GPUs for gamers.
 
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Too late, too hypocritical. Better than nothing but won't affect the market as Polaris based mining-only GPUs didn't so 2 years ago until mining fell apart due to crypto price demolished. My 5c.
 
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If we don't see them @ the $330 MSRP, I don't give a damn nVidia, also you needed these limitations on the hardware level, driver limitations can always be removed/bypassed by someone smart enough. The damage has been done, we just moved within the 6th month of the launch of these products. Now I guess you will start throwing your next RTX4000 lineup in our faces while people paid through their asses just to get a little gaming card that won't even last till RTX5000, **** YOU!
 
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As we have seen, miners first. :banghead:
 
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Yeah, cool, I bet there will be custom drivers to remove the limits within weeks, if not days. Also, they're not making extra GPUs, right? They're just carving out another product line out of the silicon they've already ordered. I'm happy to be wrong on this but me thinks nothing will change drastically because of this move.
 
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If the price is right then I am a happy camper.
More gamers will get the cards they want, and I can get good mining GPUs for cheap. Win-win

edit: okay they better be really cheap because 45MH/s at 250W is really, really inefficient. A 3060 Ti gets 60MH/s at like 110W.
 
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If the price is right then I am a happy camper.
More gamers will get the cards they want, and I can get good mining GPUs for cheap. Win-win

Yes, if you have 1080p mmmm, sure but some of us needed an RTX3070 preferably with 12GB VRAM (minumum) @ MSRP to drive our 1440p monitors at high refresh rates. We really got screwed. There is no way I will pay $1500 for a $500 product to achieve that. One can even use that other $1000 to upgrade ones CPU / Mobo / RAM and storage, that is how insane this whole shit show is.
 
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Can bet that MASSIVE EFFORT will be put in to hacking the Nvidia driver for the RTX 3060.

As long as the hashrate lock is software only and not in the actual GPU it will be fixed one way or the other.

ALSO THIS IS A BLOW TO GAMERS...

Think of all the gamers running NiceHash when not gaming making back some of that hard earned $$$ that a GPU cost.

My friend actually earned back the whole cost for his RTX 3080 since September only by mining when he was not gaming.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT

Does nvidia really have the right to discriminate against all people that want to do some mining, lots of gamers also mine when not gaming.

Nvidia is now saying that you can do every thing else but not mine just because they say so.

WHAT IF INTEL HALVED THE SPEED OF SOME APPLICATIONS IN THEIR CPUs because they think that CPUs should not be used with these applications.

I see some law suits coming nvidias way in the near future.
 
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If we don't see them @ the $330 MSRP, I don't give a damn nVidia, also you needed these limitations on the hardware level, driver limitations can always be removed/bypassed by someone smart enough. The damage has been done, we just moved within the 6th month of the launch of these products. Now I guess you will start throwing your next RTX4000 lineup in our faces while people paid through their asses just to get a little gaming card that won't even last till RTX5000, **** YOU!
How would that even be possible. Plus wouldn't hardware level limitations effect everything using the CUDA CORES. Like engineering, and other stuff that use them other than mining? Also the design for the hardware has been finalized since 2018. They can't change it.
 
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So miners will still prefer the non-CMP versions to run with old drivers, so they can sell them to gamers afterward. There has to be a hardware lock on new non-CMP cards to a certain driver version. Nothing can done to release the existing non-CMP cards to gamers, unless they somehow manage to produce more of either.
 
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How would that even be possible. Plus wouldn't hardware level limitations effect everything using the CUDA CORES. Like engineering, and other stuff that use them other than mining?
Welcome to TPU! Hope you enjoy your stay!

Back to topic, I think for that kind of work Nvidia encourages Quadro GPUs. If I recall correctly, there were driver limitations on standard Geforce cards for it.
 
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Give miners a better product and pretended that you are doing something for gamers.

Brilliant really.
 
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Yes, if you have 1080p mmmm, sure but some of us needed an RTX3070 preferably with 12GB VRAM (minumum) @ MSRP to drive our 1440p monitors at high refresh rates. We really got screwed. There is no way I will pay $1500 for a $500 product to achieve that. One can even use that other $1000 to upgrade ones CPU / Mobo / RAM and storage, that is how insane this whole shit show is.
Huh? Your comment is genuinely incomprehensible to me. I don't understand what you're trying to say
BTW The 3070 100% does not need more than 8GB. I have one and played at 4K and rarely got above 7GB in new AAA titles. At 1440p it's absolutely enough.
 
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Ergo; Miners first.
Nvidia loves profits..........as any company does.........

I called out limiting in a driver or hardware awhile back............called it!!
 
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Give miners a better product and pretended that you are doing something for gamers.

Brilliant really.

I can smell their bullshit through my monitor.
 
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Give miners a better product and pretended that you are doing something for gamers.

Brilliant really.
And product availability will still be shit. So, no changes in the horizon.
 
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the company has announced that the RTX 3060 launch driver will include software limitations for cryptocurrency mining workloads specifically correlated with Ethereum mining, essentially halving the maximum theoretical hashrate that could be achieved from a purely hardware perspective.

Now do this for next gen RTX4000 Lovelace/Hopper right away....
 
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How is carbon footprint of criptocurrency mining in percentage and in tons for the world? Why miners or GPU trademarks which support them not paying for it?
 
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Huh? Your comment is genuinely incomprehensible to me. I don't understand what you're trying to say
BTW The 3070 100% does not need more than 8GB. I have one and played at 4K and rarely got above 7GB in new AAA titles. At 1440p it's absolutely enough.

*sigh*

So tired of this "debate", No, it's not enough, thank you, if it's good for you, sweet, but it's not enough for me and others. I don't like texture pop-ins, stutters etc. I mod games and I don't want a game that will launch within the year to give me those problems because of an 8GB VRAM limit.

It was great when the GTX1000 series launched, they were pushing it with the RTX2000 series and with the RTX3000 series this was a slap-in-the-face, I don't care what or who wants to defend that position.
 

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Mining on Linux and call it a day.
Nvidia's driver is unified, it's the same on Linux and Windows (minus a thin-ish wrapper).
 
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Yeah, cool, I bet there will be custom drivers to remove the limits within weeks, if not days. Also, they're not making extra GPUs, right? They're just carving out another product line out of the silicon they've already ordered. I'm happy to be wrong on this but me thinks nothing will change drastically because of this move.
I would bet on days, not weeks. Software limitations are the same as no limitations. If anything these gimped 3060s will be even more targeted to miners since consumers/gamers may not know how to get around the limitations to run basic miners (and recoup some of the gouged prices). Meanwhile savvy miners will buy them out in bulk and quickly install mining drivers/BIOS anyways. Real consumers lose from every angle on this idea.
 
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