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Another fraudy release
Not available in market
If available, would be with a much higher price than the announced one.
If Nvidia does what it did with 3080 it should be sued (unfortunately only people in US can do that)


Except the actual price would much much higher than the announced 500

The card isnt actually out yet. Doesnt hit the market till Thursday.
 

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I've never owned a GPU which costs more than $300 :cool: - not my price range. I'm just concerned that this generation XX60 cards will cost a lot more than 10XX/16XX/20XX cards. Also, I'm not a fan of AMD drivers, so, thanks a lot. Looks like I'm waiting for RTX 4060.

You missed the point of my post entirely. No competition leads to inflated prices. When I said you are welcome to go buy the similar performing card from AMD for cheaper, I was poking fun at the fact that there is no similar performing card from AMD.
 
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The 3070 is just below the 2080Ti at 30fps (+/- 5 fps)

For $500 vs. $1200, that's pretty good.

MSRP of 2080Ti is $999, cough.
You can tell me, that it's just a bogus announced price and I'd agree.
And tell you that so is $499 for 3070 at this point.
 
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Can't wait to search high and low for one then not getting one:roll:
 
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Wow so getting this cardz this is proper one. Almost same power requirements as 2070 super but 2080 ti performance. This what I wanted to see from them! Lovely card to look at as well, one issue is the location of the power connector.
 
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Well... 1% slower in 1080p, 1% faster in 1440p and 2160p. Technically that is a win, I guess? Though for all intents and purposes it is a tie, obviously. AMD's answer to this (whether that's the 6800 or the 6700 XT or something else) will definitely be interesting. As will the next tier down, given that ~$3-400 is often peak GPU value territory.

IMO its a win since they're doing it at less power (so at same power should be clear win). I hope amd announces their full range tomorrow, not just the top end. It'd be great to know how amd plans on filling the 300 dollar to 200 dollar tiers, which in turn would put some pressure on nvidia to announce their midrange gpus...
 
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Oh, by the way, am I the only one who thought the renders of the 3070 at launch looked kind of boxy and weird compared to the 3080 and 3090, but now after seeing actual photos thinks it looks much better than those? This is a really nicely designed GPU. The mid-shroud power connector is a bit meh, but that can definitely be overcome with some cable management effort. And otherwise it's a lot more understated and visually harmonious than its two bigger siblings.

IMO its a win since they're doing it at less power (so at same power should be clear win). I hope amd announces their full range tomorrow, not just the top end. It'd be great to know how amd plans on filling the 300 dollar to 200 dollar tiers, which in turn would put some pressure on nvidia to announce their midrange gpus...
Yeah, that would be great if so, but I'd frankly be surprised if we see more than the top 3-4 SKUs from them at once. GPUs are much more distinct than CPUs, so if you launch too many at once you risk them drowning each other out. It's a better PR and communications tactic to distribute out the launches - get people fired up with the high end, then trickle out ever cheaper cards as time passes. But just to be clear, I would be very happy if we saw the full Navi 21+22+23 tomorrow!
 

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Hmm 2070 is listed as $340 so does very well in price performance. But the cheapest I can find is 397(euro). Typo?
 
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Really nice card. Hopefully no odd issues like the 3080.

I guess after exchange rate and shipping and 13% sales tax it will be about $800 here in Canada.

To all the 2080ti owners maybe you can sell them for $600 and get a 3070 ;)
 
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I think it's long overdue now, but when we will see Ultrawide resolutions? at least 3440x1440. It really makes sense now with these cards and the gaining popularity of gaming Ultrawides.
 
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I've never owned a GPU which costs more than $300 :cool: - not my price range. I'm just concerned that this generation XX60 cards will cost a lot more than 10XX/16XX/20XX cards. Also, I'm not a fan of AMD drivers, so, thanks a lot. Looks like I'm waiting for RTX 4060.

Same here, 500 is upper limit for me, and I could stretch to 520-530 but any further is a no-no. Waste of money. As it looks that 500 does net a good chunk of performance over this (also 500 costing) 1080.

20 dollars for inflation over 3-4 years, that's fine.

Overall, looks as expected and a perfect 1080p card :roll::rockout::peace:
 
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I've never owned a GPU which costs more than $300 :cool: - not my price range. I'm just concerned that this generation XX60 cards will cost a lot more than 10XX/16XX/20XX cards. Also, I'm not a fan of AMD drivers, so, thanks a lot. Looks like I'm waiting for RTX 4060.

And by the time the 4060 arrives i bet i will cost at least $450 lol........gpus have become so mainstream, just like cellphones, they keep going up and up (and people keep bying them!)
 
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Am I the only one who is not impressed with 3070?

GTX 770 ($399) -> GTX 970 ($329) = +43% performance increase / -21% price reduction = price/performance winner
GTX 970 ($329) -> GTX 1070 ($379) = +47% performance increase / +15% price increase = 2nd place
GTX 1070 ($379) -> RTX 2070/S ($499) = +37/+52% performance increase / +32% price increase = last place
RTX 2070/S ($499) -> RTX 3070 ($499) = +39/+26% performance increase / equal elevated price = 3rd place

It's given us bellow average performance increase while retaining Turing price hike. How can this be a good deal? Just because Turing sucked BIG TIME, doesn't mean anything better becomes good.
 
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Am I the only one who is not impressed with 3070?

GTX 770 ($399) -> GTX 970 ($329) = +43% performance increase / -21% price reduction = price/performance winner
GTX 970 ($329) -> GTX 1070 ($379) = +47% performance increase / +15% price increase = 2nd place
GTX 1070 ($379) -> RTX 2070/S ($499) = +37/+52% performance increase / +32% price increase = last place
RTX 2070/S ($499) -> RTX 3070 ($499) = +39/+26% performance increase / equal elevated price = 3rd place

It's given us bellow average performance increase while retaining Turing price hike. How can this be a good deal? Just because Turing sucked BIG TIME, doesn't mean anything better becomes good.
Pretty much - bumping the previous high-end two tiers down is nothing to complain about.
Prices have varied a lot between generations, even more if you go further back. While prices have certainly been lower, but that were back when there was real competition.
$399 (2013) would translate to $446 today, so $499 isn't half bad. If Navi2 does its job, perhaps they'll shave $50 off that price.
 
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So, RTX 3060Ti will be between RTX2080S and RTX2080Ti. Also RTX 3060 will be equal to RX 5700 XT. RTX 3070 will be equal 2080 Ti.
RTX 3060 Ti = RTX2080S+9%
Next RTX 3060 Ti.
RTX 2070/S ($499) -> RTX 3070 ($499) = +39/+26% performance increase / equal elevated price = 3th place
Wait AMD for discount. GPU Wars began.
 
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Oh, by the way, am I the only one who thought the renders of the 3070 at launch looked kind of boxy and weird compared to the 3080 and 3090, but now after seeing actual photos thinks it looks much better than those? This is a really nicely designed GPU. The mid-shroud power connector is a bit meh, but that can definitely be overcome with some cable management effort. And otherwise it's a lot more understated and visually harmonious than its two bigger siblings.


Yeah, that would be great if so, but I'd frankly be surprised if we see more than the top 3-4 SKUs from them at once. GPUs are much more distinct than CPUs, so if you launch too many at once you risk them drowning each other out. It's a better PR and communications tactic to distribute out the launches - get people fired up with the high end, then trickle out ever cheaper cards as time passes. But just to be clear, I would be very happy if we saw the full Navi 21+22+23 tomorrow!

Yeah, I suppose they have stock they want to clear as well before the new midrange totally nuke their value. At this pace, x60/ti series won't be out till Jan, which kind of fits nvidia's historical patterns.
 
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It will be OK to hold your breath... seriously.

People need to get over this RAM thing already... so much crying over spilled milk.

Hold your breath and crying? None of which is happening here. Grow up and talk like an adult.

Of course games will work with 8GB, that isn't the point. I like how you just missed the entire 770 to 1070 we got 4x more VRAM and yet 1070 to 3070 we didn't get any more at all. And I'm unreasonable? We've never gone 4 years without more VRAM. And this during a launch year of a new console driving up VRAM requirements very soon. More importantly, build it and they will come, give all your cards more VRAM and game makers will release content for them. The month the 1070 launched I suddenly had games with new video options and texture packs that used more than 4GB and the same people were "crying" like yourself that we didn't need 8GB then, and yet voila we got better settings than console games and used the VRAM up quickly. Doom Eternal already needs more than 8GB for top settings and more games will soon.
 
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Hold your breath and crying? None of which is happening here. Grow up and talk like an adult.

Of course games will work with 8GB, that isn't the point. I like how you just missed the entire 770 to 1070 we got 4x more VRAM and yet 1070 to 3070 we didn't get any more at all. And I'm unreasonable? We've never gone 4 years without more VRAM. And this during a launch year of a new console driving up VRAM requirements very soon. More importantly, build it and they will come, give all your cards more VRAM and game makers will release content for them. The month the 1070 launched I suddenly had games with new video options and texture packs that used more than 4GB and the same people were "crying" like yourself that we didn't need 8GB then. Doom Eternal already needs more than 8GB for top settings and more games will soon.

I think its a valid point, if you are into texture quality/packs/mods then you should just wait for a card that satisfies your vram requirements. nvidia has never really gone all out with vram size on the 80 series, probably to give the ti model more purpose.
 

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Does anyone have a guess on market availability for AMDs new cards will be because its certainly not tomorrow during the unveil.
 
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Still maxwell and pascal was better in terms of price to performance ratio against previous series.

GTX 970 329eur + 40% FPS increase against GTX 770
GTX 1070 449eur + 62% FPS increase against GTX 970
RTX 3070 499eur + 31% FPS increase against RTX 2070 Super

So higher price and lower FPS increase.

Some may think RTX 3070 is great value when it really isn't! Ampere get's knocked out cold easy when it comes to p/p ratio if you look back in history.

Let's will hope that amd will fix this shit move from nvidia.
 
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I can see that Hardware Unboxed is testing the 3070 and it is almost too little with the 8Gb ram. I was also surprised that such a powerful card only has 8 Gb of Ram.
 
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Does anyone have a guess on market availability for AMDs new cards will be because its certainly not tomorrow during the unveil.
Good probably, but don't expect to see Navi 21 offerings (high end) before 2nd half of November or even early December and Navi 22 (mid range) before Q1 2021 according to pretty reliable leaks given to RedGamingTech by AIBs.
 

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Good probably, but don't expect to see Navi 21 offerings (high end) before 2nd half of November or even early December and Navi 22 (mid range) before Q1 2021 according to pretty reliable leaks given to RedGamingTech by AIBs.

Okay so its still a ways out then. Guess I will be battling with bots on Thursday to get 2 3070s for 2 builds Im doing.
 

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Everyone comparing to a 2080ti and assume that you get same performance for half the price.
I would like people to realize that comparing to a 2070s can be bought <500€ we are getting around 20%-25% more performance but paying almost ~50€ more, that certainly not impressive.
Just hoping that amd announcement brings some competitiveness to the market because this 3000 series launch prices are quite high.
 
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