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Nvidia high-end consumer CPU launch in 2025

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Will probably be for laptop use.
 
I have absolutely no expectations for this. All the R&D funding in the world won't gift NVIDIA's staff with the ability to work outside their area of expertise. If NVIDIA doesn't poach CPU designers from other companies for this project, nothing interesting will come of it.
 
If they can make Tegra/Grace/Thor chips, it doesn't sound impossible to me.
 
It's an interesting thought as I think Nvidia has the software chops to make it work well and push X86 emulation on ARM to an acceptable level of performance.

That's said, Nvidia gaining any significant share of the CPU market would give them way way way too much control vertically. They already have their hands in so much software, APIs, and hardware (mice, monitors, ect) and have an 88% share of GPUs. Even excluding everything else, they have greater control over the GPU market than the Bell System's monopoly had over their respective market.

I wouldn't want to entertain the idea of Nvidia fragmenting the CPU space with exclusive features either. IMO any significant step into the CPU space by Nvidia should be meet with swift action by regulators.
 
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I have absolutely no expectations for this. All the R&D funding in the world won't gift NVIDIA's staff with the ability to work outside their area of expertise. If NVIDIA doesn't poach CPU designers from other companies for this project, nothing interesting will come of it.
Grace already having 576 Arm cores in a 2U rack, and a claiming double the performance per watt than x86. They've done mobile chips for a long time. They have GPU's. They have $.

I dunno what you mean with "outside their area of expertise"?
 
It's an interesting thought as I think Nvidia has the software chops to make it work well and push X86 emulation on ARM to an acceptable level of performance.

That's said, Nvidia gaining any significant share of the CPU market would give them way way way too much control vertically. They already have their hands in so much software, APIs, and hardware (mice, monitors, ect) and have an 88% share of GPUs. Even excluding everything else, they have greater control over the GPU market than the Bell System's monopoly had over their respective market.

I wouldn't want to entertain the idea of Nvidia fragmenting the CPU space with exclusive features either. IMO any significant step into the CPU space by Nvidia should be meet with swift action by regulators.

I mean, anything to break the duopoly between Intel and AMD. Being ARM it's going to be more of a competitor to Qualcomm and Apple (although Apple's complete vertical integration and own ecosystem shields them greatly from this) - I see little reason for regulators to get involved. Regardless, if performance + battery life is achieved (something the Snapdragon X Elite largely failed to deliver - it had nowhere near the expected traction in the market either), this could be the breakthrough for ARM on the traditional computer space. Nvidia's graphics expertise and continued driver support are going to put Adreno in the ground, and even if these are straight ports of the Grace Hopper core it should still not look too bad next to the Oryon architecture.

The biggest issue with x86 to ARM compatibility is still converting AVX to NEON instructions, and while Apple seems to have more or less achieved this with some caveats, it seems Windows still struggles with it.
 
Rather see SPARC or SuperH
 
this reminds of when nvidia making motherboard chipsets.. nforce during the early 2000
 
this reminds of when nvidia making motherboard chipsets.. nforce during the early 2000
For them to abandon them when Vista Launched
 
For them to abandon them when Vista Launched
But last of them were released in 2008? I remember also that I got a nF 720D AM3 motherboard back when I bought a Phenom II and other stuff in 2011, nothing to complain and worked flawlessly with Win7.

this reminds of when nvidia making motherboard chipsets.. nforce during the early 2000
nF2 to nF4 were hella great. After that, they were IMO relevant only for SLI users etc., or budget users (like my Asrock nF 720D board, cost 50EUR or something).
 
But last of them were released in 2008? I remember also that I got a nF 720D AM3 motherboard back when I bought a Phenom II and other stuff in 2011, nothing to complain and worked flawlessly with Win7.
Because it had nothing to do with Vista. It was the result of Intel/NVidia court case. Intel essentially blocked NV from making their chipsets. DMI patents, I believe, were the reason.
 
Not impossible, Nvidia certainly have money to throw at it, though does not mean it will stick but shrug
 
Because it had nothing to do with Vista. It was the result of Intel/NVidia court case. Intel essentially blocked NV from making their chipsets. DMI patents, I believe, were the reason.
I know. After that Intel and AMD had to get a SLI license if they wanted to implement SLI.
 
hmmm Maybe a gaming build with a Nvidia CPU and an Intel GPU? That couldn't really happen, could it?
 
Grace already having 576 Arm cores in a 2U rack, and a claiming double the performance per watt than x86.
That claim is obvious BS, unless they're counting very specific/limited benchmarks!
 
That claim is obvious BS, unless they're counting very specific/limited benchmarks!
What do you expect lol, maybe you've never seen brand benchmarks before in your entire life.

That's not a reason alone for saying they can't do it, i.e what we were talking about..
 
but im kinda excited to see another player in the cpu business.. all 3 colors now rgb
 
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Hahaha, again. Good luck. Not happening. The X3D is lightyears away
 
This is now a front page news thread.


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