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NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SUPER After All?

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because it isn't full redesign... this is only half new architecture... Navi 2 is a full new design... there will be performance gains.
There will. Surely! I really hope they can compete with a part performance wise that has been out for 1.5 years with their second crack at it. But, I'm not holding my breath.

Again, point isn't this so much as it is to hear that 'wait for the next part' idea when things are several months away still. That and perhaps now that you are armed with the knowledge Nvidia can compete in price and performance in some SKUs, maybe the words will be tempered a bit (calling those buying Nv cards "dumb") and less toxic. :)
 
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yep Nvidia will be forced to respond to navi 2 with Ampere this summer or spring. buying this would be dumb, just another case of Nvidia milking people with too much money, but hey if they are dumb enough to keep buying it more power to nvidia. personally I'd rather be poor and have my brains.
Milking?
They're providing the fastest gaming GPU at particular moment.

Why is that "milking" and what does it have to do with Ampere which is a distant future?
 
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because it isn't full redesign... this is only half new architecture... Navi 2 is a full new design... there will be performance gains.
oh gawd. How do you know? Secret nvidia GPU engineer?
 

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This card will be an absolute waste of time if it doesn’t include a HDMI 2.1 socket
exactly what I am waiting for. i am currently running RX 5700 XT and will not upgrade until a next gen GPU with HDMI 2.1 ports on it for the ability to do 4K 120Hz

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HDMI 2.1 FEATURES is not the same as having the bandwidth that 4K 120Hz+ needs. many GPUs and TVs have HDMI 2.1 features, doesn't mean it can do the high resolution with high refresh rate over HDMI 2.0 connections. I can't believe how many people wrongly connect these things
 

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because it isn't full redesign... this is only half new architecture... Navi 2 is a full new design... there will be performance gains.
If "a full new design" == "tweaked RDNA", then yes.
I mean, sure Zen2 is significantly better than Zen, so there's no reason RDNA2 won't be significantly better than RDNA. But neither is "a full new design", let's choose our words more carefully, shall we?
 
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If "a full new design" == "tweaked RDNA", then yes.
I mean, sure Zen2 is significantly better than Zen, so there's no reason RDNA2 won't be significantly better than RDNA. But neither is "a full new design", let's choose our words more carefully, shall we?
I was only quoting what I remember reading from Lisa Su. Pretty sure she said full RDNA2 is a different beast entirely than Navi 1. but sure thing
 
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I was only quoting what I remember reading from Lisa Su. Pretty sure she said full RDNA2 is a different beast entirely than Navi 1. but sure thing
We can be wrong... but, you should provide links to support your assertion(s) when questioned. It's how forums work.
 
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I also think that "NVIDIA will be forced" is a term that didn't really happen since... a long time ago.
If I remember correctly, it was the release of HD4850 and HD4870 wasn't it? It brutalized GTX260 and GTX280. That was when I was about to finish high school lol
 
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Exactly. Although it’s nice that my LG TV does G-sync perfectly, at the same time it’s still capped to 4K 60hz or 1440
exactly what I am waiting for. i am currently running RX 5700 XT and will not upgrade until a next gen GPU with HDMI 2.1 ports on it for the ability to do 4K 120Hz



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HDMI 2.1 FEATURES is not the same as having the bandwidth that 4K 120Hz+ needs. many GPUs and TVs have HDMI 2.1 features, doesn't mean it can do the high resolution with high refresh rate over HDMI 2.0 connections. I can't believe how many people wrongly connect these things
Exactly. The G-sync compatibility for my LG TV is really cool and works impeccably well but at the same time, I’m stuck between having to choose between 4K 60hz or 1440p 120hz because the HDMI 2.0 socket on the GPU is restricting the necessary bandwidth for 4K 120hz. My tv is ready for 4K 120hz + HDR + g-sync but my 2080Ti is holding holding it back.
 
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We can be wrong... but, you should provide links to support your assertion(s) when questioned. It's how forums work.
it was on a powerpoint slide during her presentation from what I remember, but I am not going through that whole video again to find it. I could care less if you agree with me or not, that is also how forums work. later gators
 
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it was on a powerpoint slide during her presentation from what I remember, but I am not going through that whole video again to find it. I could care less if you agree with me or not, that is also how forums work. later gators
What, your post cast aside because you can't support it? Indeed, that is how it will work.
 

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If they can reduce the energy consumption for multi-monitor setups then I'd get it since I rarely play games but use my computer mostly for multi-tasking with a tv and monitor. TV for youtube and monitor for surfing or email.
 

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We can be wrong... but, you should provide links to support your assertion(s) when questioned. It's how forums work.
You don't need a link for that.
No CEO ever took the stage to tell us: our upcoming product will be a a tweaked current product on a slightly better production node. Their presentations always include "radically new design", "unprecedented performance", "designed for the next gen" and other terms that will win you a bullshit bingo in no time. That makes me pretty sure Ms Su has said the same thing about RDNA2. People taking said statements at face value, that's another story.
 
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You don't need a link for that.
No CEO ever took the stage to tell us: our upcoming product will be a a tweaked current product on a slightly better production node. Their presentations always include "radically new design", "unprecedented performance", "designed for the next gen" and other terms that will win you a bullshit bingo in no time. That makes me pretty sure Ms Su has said the same thing about RDNA2. People taking said statements at face value, that's another story.
That's a good point... in particular your last sentence (which was next to address when a link was provided).

Hook, line, and sinker, some. :)
 
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Yeah, like they said Fury X was going to be the overclockers dream. Or the "Poor Volta" thing...

AMD always has something fantastic up its sleeve, the problem is that the sleeve is so long that we wait, we wait, we wait...
They have great presentation slides I will give you that.

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Yeah, like they said Fury X was going to be the overclockers dream. Or the "Poor Volta" thing...

AMD always has something fantastic up its sleeve, the problem is that the sleeve is so long that we wait, we wait, we wait...

really enjoying my Ryzen 3600 and 3800 1:1 inifnity fabric ram at the moment. hard to believe I am getting better scores than even a 9700k and the ram and CPU and mobo all cost me less than a single 9700k to boot. turns out ryzen loves ram if you max out inifnity fabric, it screams.

but your right, we wait and wait and wait. I'm glad I waited.
 
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Good news as prices will go down. Since all nVidia Super GPUs released days before an equivalent part from AMD released, I suppose that the green team knows something about a bigger than Navi 10 chip able to compete with 2080Ti.
 
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Good news as prices will go down. Since all nVidia Super GPUs released days before an equivalent part from AMD released, I suppose that the green team knows something about a bigger than Navi 10 chip able to compete with 2080Ti.
aye, it's great there is competition again. I still can't believe how cheaply I built my new rig... and how powerful it is in regards to how much I paid. quite amazing
 
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oh gawd. How do you know? Secret nvidia GPU engineer?
No no secret engineer he has the special power called '' blind fanboy sense '' :roll:
 
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Milking?
They're providing the fastest gaming GPU at particular moment.

Why is that "milking" and what does it have to do with Ampere which is a distant future?
In a way they are and in a way they're not. Nvidia doesn't have to create a 2080ti super since they're the top dog by far but they're still going to give people a slight bump in performance. It's a filler until next gen basically.
 
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