NVIDIA to End "Kepler" Support with R470 Drivers, 9 Years After Release: Support Roadmap

AusWolf · May 24, 2021

Lindatje said:
New games are not goin to work well.

You might lose half an FPS. Or more. Or nothing at all. This wouldn't deter me from using the card.

Contrary to what nvidia's regular driver updates make you think: you don't need the newest driver to run games.

nguyen · May 24, 2021

Nvidia's DX11 driver is near perfect that old GPU don't really need any optimization for DX11 games, I bet even the old GTX680 can run Days Gone much better than its nemesis the HD7970; DX12/Vulkan is a whole other discussion.

Lindatje · May 24, 2021

AusWolf said:
You might lose half an FPS. Or more. Or nothing at all. This wouldn't deter me from using the card.

Contrary to what nvidia's regular driver updates make you think: you don't need the newest driver to run games.

Its alot more than “half an FPS”…
Also there are alot of problems with newer games and those problems are solved with driver updates. If you don’t get the driver updates anymore then……

AusWolf · May 24, 2021

Lindatje said:
Its alot more than “half an FPS”…
Also there are alot of problems with newer games and those problems are solved with driver updates. If you don’t get the driver updates anymore then……

Is this what you experienced, or is this what you're told? I never noticed any difference after a driver update. Well, AMD's newer drivers tend to be a bit more stable, but other than that...

Lindatje · May 24, 2021

AusWolf said:
Is this what you experienced, or is this what you're told? I never noticed any difference after a driver update. Well, AMD's newer drivers tend to be a bit more stable, but other than that...

What do you think? I don't listen to anyone so I have experienced it myself. Sometimes the problems are bigger than other times, but there is one thing and that is that there is not much use of the GTX 780TI system at the moment. AMD supports their GPU, s a lot longer, the HD 7000 is still supported so Nvidia can learn something from that.

AusWolf · May 24, 2021

Lindatje said:
What do you think? I don't listen to anyone so I have experienced it myself. Sometimes the problems are bigger than other times, but there is one thing and that is that there is not much use of the GTX 780TI system at the moment. AMD supports their GPU, s a lot longer, the HD 7000 is still supported so Nvidia can learn something from that.

Here's a graphics card much older than yours playing some modern (and some not so modern) games. Like I said, I wouldn't worry. As for AMD, yes, the HD 7000 series is still supported, but if you scroll up, you can read about how HD 6000 support was dropped after about 5 years of service. At least your 780 Ti has been supported far longer than that.

Aretak · May 24, 2021

AusWolf said:
You might lose half an FPS. Or more. Or nothing at all. This wouldn't deter me from using the card.

Contrary to what nvidia's regular driver updates make you think: you don't need the newest driver to run games.

You obviously don't pay any attention to what's going on with older cards. Fermi GPUs experience major graphical glitches and poor performance (even beyond what you'd expect) in many newer titles due to a lack of driver support, after Nvidia dropped the architecture in 2018. To cite just a few examples, Just Cause 4 barely works at all on Fermi cards, running at ~10fps with broken graphics regardless of settings. Shadow of the Tomb Raider's textures are completely broken. Trees and foliage are broken in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey. Red Dead Redemption 2 runs but with poor GPU utilization, usually hitting ~60-70% with performance to match. Battlefield V doesn't work at all unless you implement a user-created fix, after which it runs fine.

High-end Fermi cards would still be fine for some sub-1080p, low/medium settings gaming without issues like this. The GTX 580 is around on par with a GTX 1050. But it's ruined by the driver problems, which will be coming soon to a Kepler card near you. It won't affect every single title, no, and maybe your favorites will get by unscathed, but saying that driver support blanket doesn't matter and won't affect anything is simply untrue.

Mussels · May 24, 2021

The concept of using 10 year old GPU's to play new games is boggling

Your old GPU will continue to work for older games, and some newer ones.
If you want to play newer titles than your GTX 480 supports... well... upgrade? Shit, even IGPU has got to be that fast now

StefanM · May 24, 2021

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NVIDIA to End "Kepler" Support with R470 Drivers, 9 Years After Release: Support Roadmap

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