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Odd Issue with X58 System

lexluthermiester said:
That is not an issue. The motherboard listed in the OP has 100% Xeon compatibility. Although, this point does beg the question about the bios revision being used as that may be a problem.

@Devastator0 Do you have the most recent bios version installed on that board?
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lexluthermiester said:
Telling someone to use a custom bios when they are already having problems, especially ram problems, is very bad advice. Flashing any bios, custom or not, on a system with known ram related problems runs a very high risk that the flash might fail, potentially bricking said board.

Devastator0 came here for help, not for tips on how to potentially make it worse.
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So with One/1 good ram stick loaded in the proper boot space for 1 stick, He can flash safely. Then load and test the remaining ram. It might fix his problem.
 
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jsfitz54 said:
So with One/1 good ram stick loaded in the proper boot space for 1 stick, He can flash safely. Then load and test the remaining ram. It might fix his problem.
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Therein lays the flaw in your logic and methodology. Assumption. You assume the custom bios would not make the problem worse. Additionally, you also assume that Devastator0 has concluded which of the modules of ram are good or bad. The problem might also be a ram compatibility issue with the Xeon CPU.

Changing to a custom and unofficial bios when a system is running perfectly is risky at best. Doing so when a system is unstable is very unwise. Advising someone to do same is foolish and reckless. You want to do so with your own system, have at it. It is however completely irresponsible to give such advice to someone who is having problems with their system. Again, we are here to help, not to make things worse.
 
Yeah guys, I am currently only intending on using the official BIOS release for the exact reasons that @lexluthermiester says. I may flash it with the modded bios when I get the new RAM kit but I’m still in the testing process of the existing kit. Didn’t get a chance when I got home last night but should do today. Currently the rig is 100% stable with 8GB of the 12GB loaded into it. No issues. Will post an update when I test the last 2 sticks.

I really do appreciate all the help guys, seriously, you’ve all been awesome with all the thoughts/suggestions/tips, but please, let’s not have a go at each other, it’s not needed. End of the day we’re all here to talk tech and to help out others if we can.

EDIT: When I say 100% stable, that is with using the X5690, just to provide that clarification.
 
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lexluthermiester said:
Therein lays the flaw in your logic and methodology. Assumption. You assume the custom bios would not make the problem worse. Additionally, you also assume that Devastator0 has concluded which of the modules of ram are good or bad. The problem might also be a ram compatibility issue with the Xeon CPU.

Changing to a custom and unofficial bios when a system is running perfectly is risky at best. Doing so when a system is unstable is very unwise. Advising someone to do same is foolish and reckless. You want to do so with your own system, have at it. It is however completely irresponsible to give such advice to someone who is having problems with their system. Again, we are here to help, not to make things worse.
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I'll be blunt with you.

OP has ram that passed memtest, he said so. Use that ram.

Checklist:
no bent cpu pins.
no crud in cpu socket.
no dirty ram sockets.
CPU cooler not over-tightened.

Only thing he changed was 920 to x5690.

If ram is not compatible, it won't boot.
He said he borrowed friends ram, let him use that to flash.
He already has mentioned flashing twice with the current setup.
 
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Play nice or move along - only warning. Thread cleansed of personal insults.
 
Regeneration said:
@Devastator0

As I suggested before, install AIDA64, launch it, browse to Computer > DMI, and check exactly which DDR module/slot fails to initialize.
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Ahhh yes, crap, I missed your post mate, will do so. Cheers again for that.
 
How many modules do you have? 2GBx6? It is unusual for TWO sticks to go bad all of the sudden. Sounds like you're having a problem with an entire channel. It's either CPU, motherboard, or configuration.

Westmere has a different IMC (integrated memory controller) than Bloomfield. Reset the BIOS to default settings and adjust your uncore to 1.5x of the DDR speed.

Six memory modules apply more pressure on the IMC... and since this is a used Xeon, it's possible the IMC has degraded and requires some voltage boost (set QPI/VTT to v1.25).
 
Ok, so another update. I have tracked down the problem to one of the memory modules. It kept throwing errors regardless of the slot it was in so it’s good to know that. The machine is currently running on 10GB and seems to be happy with all BIOS settings on Auto (I did try the XMP profile but it wouldn’t boot).

I’m going to see what happens when I get my replacement kit (that may be in a week or so depending on how my Amazon shipment goes) and then go from there. With any luck I’ll just be able to drop in the 24GB kit and it’ll play nice.

@Regeneration I’ll hold off on that for the moment and I’ll see how things go with the new kit I have incoming. If that throws out any issues, I’ll be sure to give your above suggestion a go. Thanks for that tip mate! (By the way, you’re doing awesome work on behalf of the community in your modded X58 BIOS’. Once I get my current issues completely sorted, I’m looking to flash my P6T Deluxe V2 with the one you put up).

Additional: Again, I would just like to thank everyone so much for their input and assistance that has really helped me out so much. It honestly is very much appreciated! I'll still update the post when I get the new RAM kit and let you all know how it goes.
 
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Alright, so, another, and what I think may be the final update for this. I have received the new Corsair 24GB RAM kit today and have just popped it all in the PC. Everything seems to be working fine with the full amount of RAM and it's all recognised with no problems so far. I did try to enable XMP but the system wouldn't boot with that. Currently everything is on Auto and the RAM is running at 1333Mhz, which is fine, as long as the system remains stable. Yet again, I would just like to thank everyone for their input in this thread and for all of the tips and suggestions to help me try to get this all sorted out. You've all been amazing and the assistance has been very much appreciated!!
 
Devastator0 said:
Alright, so, another, and what I think may be the final update for this. I have received the new Corsair 24GB RAM kit today and have just popped it all in the PC. Everything seems to be working fine with the full amount of RAM and it's all recognised with no problems so far. I did try to enable XMP but the system wouldn't boot with that. Currently everything is on Auto and the RAM is running at 1333Mhz, which is fine, as long as the system remains stable. Yet again, I would just like to thank everyone for their input in this thread and for all of the tips and suggestions to help me try to get this all sorted out. You've all been amazing and the assistance has been very much appreciated!!
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Glad we could be of help, and that you got your system sorted. Have fun!
 
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