Odd Request/Question - Netgear Wireless N Router WNDR3700

[shovenose]

So, at home I use a consumer grade router. (I'm used to administrating enterprise stuff not consumer crap)...

My internet really slows down when I'm doing something like uploading a backup to Backblaze, etc... I don't think it's the internet itself is slowing down, and my computer is connected with a Cat6 GigE connection so the bottleneck isn't my system.

My theory is that my Netgear router is bogging down due to the heavy load not normal or noticed by typical computer users. Plus, most people don't have 60Mbps internet connections, more like 6, where this kind of thing would be less noticable.

Now, what I want to do is monitor the load of the router. On linux/bsd systems you just run a command like top and it'll give a 1/5/15 minute load average. Is there any possible way I could run that on my Netgear?

 

[Frick]

When I was on 100/100 my WNR3500L it handled everything smoothly, including large uploads. I rarely got 100 up though, but that was probably the internet.

Would also be interested in such a load monitor.

 

[DayKnight]

60Mbps should be walk in the park for this router. It is no slouch and I am DAMN sure it's not bogging down.

Flash some other firmware and ask on those forums or search on Google for command line of your choice, of course, if supported.

 

[Jetster]

That router will run DD-WR. But unless somting with south on it that router is rock solid

 

[Mussels]

every net connection i've used has lagged out when the upload was maxed. you sure you're not just bottlenecking?

 

[brandonwh64]

I have said it over and over and sorry if I do sound like a broken record but lower/mid end consumer grade routers are trash for people like us. They have low memory and slow proccessors that cannot handle LAN gig speeds or our ever growing internet speeds. We have company local that buy these things and then request a 100mb symmetrical connection then complain when it goes out cause they think its on our end. Once the router is reset they are back in business until they do a WAN transfer then it tanks again. Last year I went through 8 wireless routers and finally said "The hell with it". I have since built my own router that I have pushed to the limits of my internet speeds and LAN speeds without a single lockup or hesitation. For some this is not practical but to others that want the best and stable connection possible would def love it.

Example. We have a small LAN that consists of a PoE gig switch with 10 wireless AP points on it for our offices to connect to RAW internet on their portable devices. The original designer got it all right until he decided to use a TP-Link router on the WAN side and to handle DHCP. It had to be reset almost daily with around 100 ARP entries on the IPtable. I rebuilt a old P4 HP server we had in our closet with IPCop and bumped the speed to 100mb symmetrical connection and it has seen around 20GB of traffic daily without a single slow down, lockup, or crash.

Now I am not totally knocking the consumer market cause there are some good routers out there but you will def pay for them. A company remixcat recommends and reviews are AMPwireless. These are well built and would probably handle high traffic networks.

 

[Frick]

@brandonwh64 : Different scenarios. For just uploads/downloads, even if there's much traffic, it should work when it's a single user. If you have like 10 people each wanting high speeds with some features, then yeah it makes a big difference.

But it depends on the OP. How often do you do big uploads? Is it only then this happens, or during downloads as well? If you're maxing out your connection both ways all the time it might be time to look for something else.

 

[brandonwh64]

@brandonwh64 : Different scenarios. For just uploads/downloads, even if there's much traffic, it should work when it's a single user. If you have like 10 people each wanting high speeds with some features, then yeah it makes a big difference.

I have had instances were it was just a single user but the net load was high due to downloading or upload heavy files but its just my observation.

 

[Red_Machine]

That's called buffer bloat. Your router's not made for uploading large amounts of data, so the whole thing slows to a crawl. I have the same problem with my shitty ISP-supplied D-Link.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I've had NO such issues on MY Router which is the WNDR3800.....I assume they are FAIRLY similar if not VERY.

 

[DayKnight]

I've had NO such issues on MY Router which is the WNDR3800.....I assume they are FAIRLY similar if not VERY.

Your U/D rate?.

 

[shovenose]

thanks for the info guys.
I had a brand new Ubnt EdgeRouter Lite. But I used it for work. I should just buy another. Then simply hook up the brand new in box UniFi AP I have.

I have worked with Amped Wirless stuff before and its been great. But I don't want to replace my Netgear unless its actually the problem which it might not be.

 

[shovenose]

thanks for the info guys.
I had a brand new Ubnt EdgeRouter Lite. But I used it for work. I should just buy another. Then simply hook up the brand new in box UniFi AP I have.

I have worked with Amped Wirless stuff before and its been great. But I don't want to replace my Netgear unless its actually the problem which it might not be.

 

[remixedcat]

What revision is it?

I have several Amped Wireless products and they've all been awesome. I barely even have to even log into the control panel to mess with it much or reboot it. Only had one reboot since July on this RTA15 and it was an ISP issue. My R20000G lasted from Jan. to Jul with only one reboot to upgrade the firmware.

And I stream,game, and run servers and stuff 24.7 so I push my network hard. It even handled 9 devices streaming HD videos while some people were gaming with no problems.

I transitioned from a Netgear router as well. I had the WGR614 and it was really showing it's age so I had to upgrade. Also the processor in that Netgear was only 240Mhz compared to my AW's 620Mhz.

 

[shovenose]

What revision is it?

I have several Amped Wireless products and they've all been awesome. I barely even have to even log into the control panel to mess with it much or reboot it. Only had one reboot since July on this RTA15 and it was an ISP issue. My R20000G lasted from Jan. to Jul with only one reboot to upgrade the firmware.

And I stream,game, and run servers and stuff 24.7 so I push my network hard. It even handled 9 devices streaming HD videos while some people were gaming with no problems.

I transitioned from a Netgear router as well. I had the WGR614 and it was really showing it's age so I had to upgrade. Also the processor in that Netgear was only 240Mhz compared to my AW's 620Mhz.

Ah yes, the WGR614 - another one of those Netgear wonders that was extremely popular, extremely buggy, and had a million different versions that all behaved differently while retaining the same model number. Sort of the WRT54G Linksys or whatever


Edit: no version number on my router, so I guess it's the first version. Oops

 

[remixedcat]

and all those WGR614s have different specs like memory, CPU speed, flash, etc... annoying for the DDWRT devs and why it's in ?able support mode LOL.