Opinion wanted

[MentalAcetylide]

Money well spent if you're using it for rendering and other 3D tasks. What engine are you using?

Nothing fancy at this time. I started working in Daz3d about 3 years ago and mainly use the Iray rendering engine. I just got sick and tired of renders taking too long since just about everything gets kicked off to the CPU due to the GeForce GTX 765M not having sufficient VRAM. Laptops & Iray rendering just don't mix well together, so the desktop I'm having built will be able to handle just about everything I can throw at it. It will be nice to burn through Iray previews in minutes with over 20k CUDA cores & a hefty 24/48 GB VRAM. I'll be able to use both the 3090 & A6000 for extra rendering speed when needed or just the A6000 for the bigger/longer renders.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Sapphire Pulse 6700XT for $850, or Sapphire Nitro 6700XT for $925, which would you get? I'm buying one or the other in about 2 hours and trying to decide on which one to get.

I would wait 4 months. Prices are very likely to come down with the cryptocoin crash...

I'm going to be off setting the price by selling my 2070. I have multiple offers for $600 for it. So the 6700XT should only cost me $250-325 out of pocket, plus the 2070 I paid less than $350 for a year ago. $550-625 actual cost isn't bad for a 6700XT. And that's what I'm looking at. So which one of the two should I get? Is the Nitro worth the extra $75?

That's a bit of a side-grade instead of an upgrade. I would wait for a 6800 or 3070, but that's just me..

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I would wait 4 months. Prices are very likely to come down with the cryptocoin crash...

This post is 6 weeks old, I have already bought the 6700XT

That's a bit of a side-grade instead of an upgrade. I would wait for a 6800 or 3070, but that's just me..

While I wanted a 30% boost in performance, hence me wanting a RTX 3070, the 6700XT is about 25% faster than my RTX 2070 was. It was a upgrade, just not quite as much as I wanted. But to be perfectly. honest, I'm happy with the 6700XT's performance.

 

[Hemmingstamp]

Nothing fancy at this time. I started working in Daz3d about 3 years ago and mainly use the Iray rendering engine. I just got sick and tired of renders taking too long since just about everything gets kicked off to the CPU due to the GeForce GTX 765M not having sufficient VRAM. Laptops & Iray rendering just don't mix well together, so the desktop I'm having built will be able to handle just about everything I can throw at it. It will be nice to burn through Iray previews in minutes with over 20k CUDA cores & a hefty 24/48 GB VRAM. I'll be able to use both the 3090 & A6000 for extra rendering speed when needed or just the A6000 for the bigger/longer renders.

Have DAZ fixed their broken studio yet? I know CUDA core are key for iray, it's a great render engine and at least it's freen in DS.
I used to use it in MAX but chose Vray instead for speed.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This post is 6 weeks old, I have already bought the 6700XT

Oh, I am sorry. Saw the recent posts and thought it was new..

the 6700XT is about 25% faster than my RTX 2070 was. It was a upgrade, just not quite as much as I wanted.

Fair enough. Seems like a solid upgrade. 25% uptick is nothing to scoff at..

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Fair enough. Seems like a solid upgrade. 25% uptick is nothing to scoff at..

Actually, I was wrong. Looking at TPU's review of my card, the 2070 FE I had gives about 70% of the performance my 6700XT. The 3070 would have been a 40% upgrade. Granted, that's not taking into account my 2GHz core OC and +400MHz memory OC I had on the 2070, but then again, 2.8GHz OC on my 6700XT is there also. But it was still expensive, I admit that.

 

[Devon68]

4000$ for a GPU. What am I doing with my life?

 

[Athlonite]

Yes, I had a 2070, I also upgraded to 4k, which the 2070 struggled with some

And you thought a RX6700 would be any better for 4K LOL are you going to use all Mid/Low settings not to mention even thinking about turning on RT but as you've already bought it then good luck with it

 

[BarbaricSoul]

And you thought a RX6700 would be any better for 4K LOL are you going to use all Mid/Low settings not to mention even thinking about turning on RT but as you've already bought it then good luck with it

Because yeah, that 10% performance boost of a 3070 is going to make me drop from all high to med/low settings. Raytracing? I don't sit still long enough in games to notice that. Heh, and the 6700XT doesn't seem to be having the performance issues the 2070 was having at 4k. Yes, I wanted a 3070, but I ended up with literally 1 step down from it with the 6700XT. +30 Newegg shuffles and not selected yet, I got what I could when I could.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Actually, I was wrong. Looking at TPU's review of my card, the 2070 FE I had gives about 70% of the performance my 6700XT. The 3070 would have been a 40% upgrade. Granted, that's not taking into account my 2GHz core OC and +400MHz memory OC I had on the 2070, but then again, 2.8GHz OC on my 6700XT is there also. But it was still expensive, I admit that.

Still, significant improvement over the previous card. The costs are now water under the bridge. You have a card that gave a solid boost to your experiences, so overall a win.

 

[Mister300]

First of all this is a 1440p card no matter what the node tech is I would not pay over 300 USD for any 2 K card with no DLSS and subpar RT. Must be patient with price inflation. In all honesty the best deal is a RTX 3080 FE from Best Buy at 599 USD when supply increases.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

First of all this is a 1440p card no matter what the node tech is I would not pay over 300 USD for any 2 K card with no DLSS and subpar RT. Must be patient with price inflation. In all honesty the best deal is a RTX 3080 FE from Best Buy at 599 USD when supply increases.

Like I said, I got what I could when I could. I never said I'm planning on keeping the 6700XT for a long time. If you think it's not a 4k card, what do you think I was experiencing with the 2070? And to be honest, I'm still trying to get either a 3070 or (preferably) a 3080 though Newegg shuffle or a BestBuy GPU drop. And when I do, I'll sell the 6700XT for (hopefully only) a small lose.

 

[Mister300]

Not criticizing your purchase I am in the same waiting game as you for a 3080, still think the 6700 series is $100 overpriced IMHO, my 390 X blew up using a 480 4Gig card not too thrilled compared to my 390X.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Like I said earlier

it was still expensive, I admit that.

At least I did get it at current MSRP, and not scalper prices.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Like I said earlier

At least I did get it at current MSRP, and not scalper prices.

Right. Like I said earlier, that's a win. Ignore the naysayer..

 

[MentalAcetylide]

Have DAZ fixed their broken studio yet? I know CUDA core are key for iray, it's a great render engine and at least it's freen in DS.
I used to use it in MAX but chose Vray instead for speed.

Depends on what you're referring to. I know there's something that still won't function 100% of the time, but I forget exactly what it is(spectral rendering?) since I've only ever tried using it once. When it is used in iray renders, sometimes color discrepancies can appear where the textures meet at the seams. I think their biggest issue is with the database. I only use Daz Install Manager(DIM) & manually install zip files from places such as Renderosity in C:/User/Username/MyDocuments/Daz3d/Studio/MyLibrary. No problems yet.
However, there are some individuals that have thousands of products installed, which can cause long loading times if they have a LOT of morph packages(i.e. individual character morphs, various morph packages, etc.).

 

[Hemmingstamp]

Depends on what you're referring to. I know there's something that still won't function 100% of the time, but I forget exactly what it is(spectral rendering?) since I've only ever tried using it once. When it is used in iray renders, sometimes color discrepancies can appear where the textures meet at the seams. I think their biggest issue is with the database. I only use Daz Install Manager(DIM) & manually install zip files from places such as Renderosity in C:/User/Username/MyDocuments/Daz3d/Studio/MyLibrary. No problems yet.
However, there are some individuals that have thousands of products installed, which can cause long loading times if they have a LOT of morph packages(i.e. individual character morphs, various morph packages, etc.).

DS have had many bugs over the years that I could list if I had a lifetime to do so. The most recent were crashes when rendering with iray.
Are you working with your own made textures at all instead of the pre made stuff offered on DAZ and Rosity?
Packing DS with multiple products will slow studio down but I had issues with morphs making things worse.
I would suggest splitting runtimes into individiual folders on a seperate drive. Daz in one folder, Rosity in another so they aren't all over the place and easier to find.

 

[MentalAcetylide]

DS have had many bugs over the years that I could list if I had a lifetime to do so. The most recent were crashes when rendering with iray.
Are you working with your own made textures at all instead of the pre made stuff offered on DAZ and Rosity?
Packing DS with multiple products will slow studio down but I had issues with morphs making things worse.
I would suggest splitting runtimes into individiual folders on a seperate drive. Daz in one folder, Rosity in another so they aren't all over the place and easier to find.

I'm not messing with my database/runtimes, lol. DIM content & non-DIM content are each in their own directory.
The only times I've ever had crashes was:
-mistakenly render scenes that have surfaces set with iray material/settings in 3Delight.
-have the Transmitted Measurement Distance set too low vs. the Scattering Measurement Distance under the Thin Walled settings when trying to iray render.

No, I haven't tried making my own textures yet. The best "art" program I currently have is MS-Paint. I'll be getting Photoshop and/or Substance Painter for that later on.

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Yes, I had a 2070, I also upgraded to 4k, which the 2070 struggled with some, so I did need a upgrade. The 2070 also had issues in the way of a failed fan, and something was telling me not to try to replace it (turns out I had the wrong size thermal pads for it, so there would have been issues). I was able to sell the 2070 for a profit, while also making it the lowest priced 2070 I had seen listed. Yes, I had disclosed the issues with the fan and included a replacement heatsink for the card. That offset the price of the 6700XT, which I bought at it's currently listed MSRP. All said and done, I paid $425 and my 2070 which I paid $325 shipped for and used for right at 1 year. While yes, I wish it would have been less expensive, I honestly don't feel $750 is a completely unjustified price for a 6700XT, especially with today's market. I would not have bought the 6700XT without the ability to sell the 2070 for a profit.

BTW, yes, the person I sold the 2070 to was able to figure out the thermal pads being wrong and got the card working with both fans working.

6700xt was already not so great value, paying scalper pricing for it even worsen its value, for 4K gaming a 6800xt or 3080 minimum would be advised, but oh well, its your money.

Its not like you hadn't nothing before, 2070 is still a decent card for 1440p, i would have used it till the end of the year when pricing might hopefully decreases, but i guess you had an itch you couldn't scratch.

You made a not so wise decision, nonetheless, enjoy your card.

I spent $4000 USD for a Kingpin RTX 3090. Did I waste my money? I don't really need it for gaming, but rather to help out with the rendering speed of the RTX A6000 for large scenes/caustics since I can use their total combined CUDA cores together in non-SLI for the same render.
There's really not much else we can "legally" do about it until laws are put into place that discourage & punish scalpers and the e-commerce systems/brokers they're using that allow the practice.
Waste of money? Depends. If you need something, whether for a hobby or work, and can't buy it anywhere else, it becomes more of a question of "can it work within your budget?"

Individuals piss millions of $$$ away on "art" that just hangs on a freakin wall somewhere, wine that they'll never open & drink, ridiculously large exuberant houses that could easily house tens of families on an estate the size of a small village so... there's plenty of scumbaggery-level waste going on in the world and I would hardly consider someone having no other option that purchases an over-priced video card as an equivalent when it fits their budget.

We can always choose not to buy the cards at their insane prices, but who do we really end up spiting by doing this? Certainly not the scalpers since the cripple-currency miners will buy them up anyway due to the fact that they use them to make money.

You bought a Kingpin for rendering work !!!

Congratulations, Money totally wasted, you could have shelved up to a grand and a half by buying a stranded card that would have performed nearly as identical

 

[bogmali]

OP purchased the card already; closing this before more people chime in on how to spend other people's money.