Optane performance on AMD vs Intel

[A Computer Guy]

Intel® Optane™ SSD DC P4800X 1.5Tb

Well if you can soft raid it with a duplicate drive you can get it a little closer to NSGYPA's P5800x score.

I'm just using Windows Disk Management to join the drives in a stripe below. (I lost my single drive Anvil benchmark for comparison.)

 

[529th]

So with buying used, do these P5800X drives need something like Secure wipe to erase the previous data?

 

[SiggiTheHun]

Intel´s memory and storage tool has all you need.

Intel® Memory and Storage Tool (GUI)

The Intel® Memory and Storage Tool (Intel® MAS) is a drive management tool for Intel® Optane™ SSDs and Intel® Optane™ Memory devices, supported on Windows*.

www.intel.com

@A Computer Guy:
Random 4K IOPS almost doubled and latency almost halved with your Windows RAID0 -- can´t see no "hard suffering" there??!

 

[Deleted member 242843]

If one is going to spend to money on exotic storage......would it not make sense to spend a little more to get a proper controller card for it?

That's what I've always done. U.2 raid cards can be had at reasonable prices when compared to U.2 drives.

adapters upon adapters upon adapters is not really my thing if it can be helped.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Intel´s memory and storage tool has all you need.

Intel® Memory and Storage Tool (GUI)

The Intel® Memory and Storage Tool (Intel® MAS) is a drive management tool for Intel® Optane™ SSDs and Intel® Optane™ Memory devices, supported on Windows*.

www.intel.com

@A Computer Guy:
Random 4K IOPS almost doubled and latency almost halved with your Windows RAID0 -- can´t see no "hard suffering" there??!

Oh your right. Sorry the way crystal disk mark colors the bars and doesn't include the decimal always tricks me up.

If one is going to spend to money on exotic storage......would it not make sense to spend a little more to get a proper controller card for it?

If you have an array probably. Otherwise they are just PCIe devices and you just need a proper adaptor to plug them into the bus.

That's what I've always done. U.2 raid cards can be had at reasonable prices when compared to U.2 drives.

Do you have any recommendations for U.2 controller cards? Are we talking simple HBA's or genuine RAID controllers?

adapters upon adapters upon adapters is not really my thing if it can be helped.

The more connections the more that can go wrong.

 

[529th]

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 242843]

I like HighPoint cards pretty well. They are a good compromise price-wise between LSi and (insert Chinese name here).

For PCI-E 4.0? I'd go with the SSD7580C.

Intel VROC is pretty cool too. Definitely cheaper to get a VROC key than a good raid card. I would assume that AMD has some equivalent to VROC, but i've not used it. what epyc and TR stuff I've seen either had a raid card, or didn't have enough storage to need one.

 

[NDRE28]

Here's my P5800X 400GB anvil score for reference on a 7800X3D + X670 setup. This is with me using it as my main drive so the score is a bit lower than if I were benchmarking it as a separate drive. I got the full 40K when I first tested it before migrating my OS. I hammer this thing by training AI all the time and it's a real champ:

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What slot is the card in though? It should be the top slot. Lower slots might work but it depends heavily on your motherboard.

I personally use the StarTech PCIe to u.2 card and it just works but that might simply because I have it in the top slot with my 4090 in the bottom slot.

In addition, you never specified if this is your OS drive. You are going to loose about 2,000 points when testing it while it's your OS drive and you'll loose additional performance if you have background tasks running. If you haven't already, try to ensure nothing is potentially interfering with the benchmark.



I assume you mean redriver here and not refrigerator. The m.2 adapters with the redrivers may require some fiddling with in order to get the signal to where you want it and the problem is unless you run Linux I'm not aware of any way to look at PCIe communication errors on windows. Wendel from Level1Techs was able to do so with Linux. He did a whole video on getting PCIe 4.0 U.2 drives to work and it's in general a PITA. Hence why I purchased the StarTech U.2 card as it was the easiest and most reliable option among those Wendel tested.

Hi!

I have the same Dell Optane drive, the same motherboard & the same StarTech adapter card, as you do, but my random transfer numbers, in benchmarks, are way lower than yours!

I've left my drive at a PC service, so they'll try updating the firmware from v1.0.0 to v2.0.0.

I've also ordered a different U.2_PCIe adapter card: Delock 90051.

I'll get back with the results.

 

[R-T-B]

I like HighPoint cards pretty well. They are a good compromise price-wise between LSi and (insert Chinese name here).

For PCI-E 4.0? I'd go with the SSD7580C.

Intel VROC is pretty cool too. Definitely cheaper to get a VROC key than a good raid card. I would assume that AMD has some equivalent to VROC, but i've not used it. what epyc and TR stuff I've seen either had a raid card, or didn't have enough storage to need one.

FYI Highpoint is just a softraid codec masked by a driver, and not true hardware raid. AFAIK, no one does true hardware RAID for anything nvme based... the bandwidth involved is just too high.

As for how I hook my P5800X up? It hooks straight to my AMD CPUs m.2 slot via one of those m.2 -> U.2 adapter kits intel includes with the cheaper 905x optanes... and believe it or not, benchmarks suggest its working fine (OS install being considered).